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      • VxJasonxV
        I can't even put into words what my confusion is. I know exactly what you're saying, I understand the difference, but there's an exception there that I can't put into words.
      • 2012-01-02 00227, 2012

      • bitmap
        well if it helps any, I also can't put into words my confusion here :P
      • 2012-01-02 00232, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        ha
      • 2012-01-02 00205, 2012

      • bitmap
        I guess you could say, anything you could enter in the "Artist as credited" field of the AC editor, would be ignored by Picard
      • 2012-01-02 00226, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        but it's not just 'as credited'
      • 2012-01-02 00237, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        it's also the value used for splitting artists, right?
      • 2012-01-02 00246, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        Oh, ok. Durr
      • 2012-01-02 00203, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        Belle and Sebastian is not a grouping that would be split like that
      • 2012-01-02 00221, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        that one album is a single artist named as 'Belle & Sebastian', via the 'as credited' you're talking about
      • 2012-01-02 00228, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        finally
      • 2012-01-02 00236, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        good morning brain :/.
      • 2012-01-02 00243, 2012

      • bitmap now sees the confusion :)
      • 2012-01-02 00251, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        so, that means my question is:
      • 2012-01-02 00214, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        I have, for example, lots of music by deadmau5, and a few singles by kaskade & deadmau5, and kaskade + deadmau5
      • 2012-01-02 00218, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        do you know what would happen then?
      • 2012-01-02 00241, 2012

      • bitmap
        it wouldn't help at all, because it doesn't touch join phrases like & or +
      • 2012-01-02 00254, 2012

      • bitmap
        it would only change the artist names, if necessary
      • 2012-01-02 00244, 2012

      • bitmap
        hrglrmph(?) had that same problem, and I think he submitted a patch that standardizes collaboration names like that
      • 2012-01-02 00237, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        I know who you're talking about :)
      • 2012-01-02 00239, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        so, good to know.
      • 2012-01-02 00253, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        I suspect that option would do more harm than good for a lot of options for me. But that's why it's a preference.
      • 2012-01-02 00203, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        All my EDM, collaborations, and all that.
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      • VxJasonxV
        btw, Happy New Year MBzers.
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      • reoafk
        Someone who is not the official MB twitter reply to this http://twitter.com/#!/lancewalton/status/15359041…
      • 2012-01-02 00208, 2012

      • MBChatLogger
        disgracenote is evil!
      • 2012-01-02 00208, 2012

      • reoafk
        And please mention something about maybe the problem being iTunes + Gracenote :p
      • 2012-01-02 00221, 2012

      • reoafk
        And not the lack of a decent DB
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      • PeepoAWAY
        http://musicbrainz.org/release/8e6232bb-69a2-4a71… <-- Should (live), (new studio mix) etc be removed from the track names?
      • 2012-01-02 00237, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Are they on the release cover?
      • 2012-01-02 00258, 2012

      • reosarevok
        If they are, keep them
      • 2012-01-02 00219, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (stuff like "bonus track" we usually remove but stuff like this is useful to differentiate versions)
      • 2012-01-02 00252, 2012

      • PeepoAWAY
        Roger that :)
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      • kovacsur
        What would the work type of a "concert étude" be?
      • 2012-01-02 00219, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Most likely a study, which we don't have :p
      • 2012-01-02 00227, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (or �tude if you prefer)
      • 2012-01-02 00236, 2012

      • reosarevok
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      • MJ
        in other words, better shoe-horn it into 'album', right?
      • 2012-01-02 00254, 2012

      • reosarevok
        �?
      • 2012-01-02 00205, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Album is not a work type either :p
      • 2012-01-02 00209, 2012

      • MJ
        :-P
      • 2012-01-02 00210, 2012

      • MJ
        oops
      • 2012-01-02 00234, 2012

      • kovacsur
        Yes, I know we don't have etude
      • 2012-01-02 00234, 2012

      • reosarevok would argue "�tude" makes perfect sense as an addition to the list
      • 2012-01-02 00239, 2012

      • MJ is not quite awake this first work-day of the year.
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      • kovacsur
        better leave it unset then, I guess
      • 2012-01-02 00213, 2012

      • reosarevok
        For now, yes
      • 2012-01-02 00215, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • 2012-01-02 00222, 2012

      • reosarevok will RFC for it too
      • 2012-01-02 00219, 2012

      • reosarevok
        There it goes
      • 2012-01-02 00210, 2012

      • reosarevok will note that all these RFCs need +1s in case someone agrees with their usefulness and stuff
      • 2012-01-02 00213, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :p
      • 2012-01-02 00206, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2012-01-02 00218, 2012

      • kovacsur
        oh, your symphonic poem hasn't been +1'ed yet either
      • 2012-01-02 00229, 2012

      • kovacsur goes and improves the situation
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      • reosarevok
        Neither has the zarzuela for that matter, but I wouldn't be surprised if people were a bit more reluctant to that one
      • 2012-01-02 00220, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Because of its more regional status
      • 2012-01-02 00228, 2012

      • kovacsur
        Maybe you should have collected all these in one single RFC
      • 2012-01-02 00242, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Nah
      • 2012-01-02 00244, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I'd rather not
      • 2012-01-02 00256, 2012

      • kovacsur
        I can't see anyone actually opposing any of them
      • 2012-01-02 00207, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I would like to agree, but just in case
      • 2012-01-02 00227, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (also, I thought of each one after sending the previous one :P)
      • 2012-01-02 00222, 2012

      • reosarevok looks at http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=3329 and grins
      • 2012-01-02 00231, 2012

      • kovacsur blinks
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      • reosarevok
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      • pankkake
        oh yeah, at first I thought I was doing something wrong, it couldn't be that painful
      • 2012-01-02 00230, 2012

      • pankkake
        I fear many people were too lazy and didn't edit recording titles
      • 2012-01-02 00238, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Fear? I'm quite sure
      • 2012-01-02 00258, 2012

      • pankkake
        ;)
      • 2012-01-02 00259, 2012

      • reosarevok
        + many people still probably don't even know what this recording thing is and that it exists :p
      • 2012-01-02 00206, 2012

      • pankkake
        fixing it will be hard
      • 2012-01-02 00212, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Report
      • 2012-01-02 00241, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Once we can filter it by subscribed entities, progress should be faster
      • 2012-01-02 00253, 2012

      • reosarevok wonders whether hrdsofosjdgfs has been working on that :)
      • 2012-01-02 00228, 2012

      • luks
        what's even worse is moving an album to a different artist
      • 2012-01-02 00246, 2012

      • luks
        you have to change every single recording
      • 2012-01-02 00247, 2012

      • reosarevok
        YES
      • 2012-01-02 00253, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Thinking of fixing that? :p
      • 2012-01-02 00205, 2012

      • luks
        well, I assume it will be fixed with that ticket
      • 2012-01-02 00227, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Hmm, I hope so
      • 2012-01-02 00252, 2012

      • reosarevok
        A "hey, the whole RG is in the wrong artist, please move it!" button would be even better
      • 2012-01-02 00201, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But I guess per-release is still fine
      • 2012-01-02 00257, 2012

      • reosarevok
        At least it's not mad like now
      • 2012-01-02 00201, 2012

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      • jesus2099
        nikki: IS it only me or your ISRC subm. page doesn’t ask for authentification any more ? → doesn’t work any more for me (although using FF not Opera)
      • 2012-01-02 00230, 2012

      • reosarevok
        ARGH
      • 2012-01-02 00246, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Stop calling your press blubs biographies if you don't even say your date and country of birth!
      • 2012-01-02 00229, 2012

      • ocharles
        luks: actually, I'm fixing that bug right now :)
      • 2012-01-02 00234, 2012

      • ocharles
        (MBS-2513)
      • 2012-01-02 00206, 2012

      • ocharles
        oh, that's what reosarevok mentioned, oops.
      • 2012-01-02 00218, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Yeah
      • 2012-01-02 00220, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2012-01-02 00232, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I just for some reason assumed it only applied to titles at first
      • 2012-01-02 00224, 2012

      • nikki
        jesus2099: if you leave the browser open, it'll remember the login and won't keep asking. if it's not actually submitting anything though, that's news to me
      • 2012-01-02 00244, 2012

      • nikki
        and it won't work in opera until mb stops using http digest auth or until opera supports it
      • 2012-01-02 00216, 2012

      • jesus2099
        the FF windows was reopened today, last time I used it was some days/weeks ago… It does not ask for anything… in FF
      • 2012-01-02 00249, 2012

      • jesus2099
        I tried deleting cookies but it must be stored somewhere else (like IE stores basic HTTP auth in special place we have to reset it with wrong value)
      • 2012-01-02 00223, 2012

      • jesus2099
        i closed FF but do you mean maybe I should reset tabs too maybe
      • 2012-01-02 00231, 2012

      • nikki
        I dunno how long firefox will remember stuff for
      • 2012-01-02 00255, 2012

      • jesus2099
        ach… strange thing I can’t use this page a second time
      • 2012-01-02 00256, 2012

      • nikki uses safari for submitting isrcs
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      • jesus2099
        Do youknow how to add a userjs in chrome, i coudl try this one
      • 2012-01-02 00255, 2012

      • jesus2099
        isrcsubmit.exe really does not like my cd drive :{
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      • nikki
        nope. never used chrome, it doesn't run on my old mac
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      • nikki
        reosarevok might know
      • 2012-01-02 00211, 2012

      • reosarevok
        From userscripts.org, just press install
      • 2012-01-02 00215, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Or whatever the button said
      • 2012-01-02 00228, 2012

      • reosarevok
        From a text file, just make sure it's called whatever.user.js
      • 2012-01-02 00238, 2012

      • reosarevok
        And then drop it in the Chrome window
      • 2012-01-02 00229, 2012

      • jesus2099
        ah thanks reosarevok ! I’ll drop it !
      • 2012-01-02 00227, 2012

      • jesus2099
        reosarevok: do you know if the file is copied somewhere or is the the file that I dropped (with its path) that is used by chromne ?
      • 2012-01-02 00235, 2012

      • reosarevok
        No idea
      • 2012-01-02 00242, 2012

      • jesus2099
        np:)
      • 2012-01-02 00242, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I think it's copied, but I can't be sure
      • 2012-01-02 00255, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Move it and check! :)
      • 2012-01-02 00210, 2012

      • jesus2099
        it’s not editable, that’s more difficult to update but yah well np it’s just this one...
      • 2012-01-02 00217, 2012

      • jesus2099
        huh… nikki : chrome does not ask for login either
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      • jesus2099
        I know what I have to do is to retry isrcsubmit.exe until it gives me the same as mediatools (it can be more than 20 tries usually :/)
      • 2012-01-02 00205, 2012

      • jesus2099
        no way :/
      • 2012-01-02 00218, 2012

      • jesus2099
        nikki: Are you sure there is nothing funny with your page today ?
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      • reosarevok
        Woooow
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        If they do this for every booklet, that's awesome
      • 2012-01-02 00243, 2012

      • jesus2099
        nikki: how stupid I was again ! I was just stuck at « This form will now submit the ISRCs for this album to MusicBrainz. The MusicBrainz server will prompt you to authenticate. » I did not remamber I had to click twice on a submit button !
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      • VxJasonxV
        wow. I have never, /ever/ done that before.
      • 2012-01-02 00244, 2012

      • reosarevok
        What exactly?
      • 2012-01-02 00228, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        well
      • 2012-01-02 00233, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        it's 9:51AM local time, right?
      • 2012-01-02 00242, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        I just got home.
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      • VxJasonxV
        Because I went into work on a day off.
      • 2012-01-02 00255, 2012

      • reosarevok
        ...
      • 2012-01-02 00204, 2012

      • reosarevok
        You really want to work, I guess'
      • 2012-01-02 00204, 2012

      • VxJasonxV
        yep