whats wrong with mb web servers ? everything is loading toooooo slow
2012-01-15 01557, 2012
reosarevok
Hmm, beta works kinda fine for me
2012-01-15 01507, 2012
reosarevok
djce, are you doing something strange?
2012-01-15 01517, 2012
reosarevok
Is other people finding stuff slow?
2012-01-15 01528, 2012
djce
reosarevok: nothing going on here
2012-01-15 01535, 2012
omgyja
still loading
2012-01-15 01552, 2012
omgyja
now works
2012-01-15 01502, 2012
ubsy
I'm entering edits; nothing unusual
2012-01-15 01550, 2012
omgyja
maybe some packets escaped from cable... ok nevermind
2012-01-15 01502, 2012
ubsy
Would you advise not to do re-associate the tracks? I would like to get rid of the duplicated recordings.
2012-01-15 01530, 2012
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2012-01-15 01507, 2012
reosarevok
ubsy, why not merge the recordings if you're sure they are the same?
2012-01-15 01517, 2012
reosarevok
(your message got cut at "all the re")
2012-01-15 01549, 2012
ubsy
hups.
2012-01-15 01512, 2012
ubsy
…But I can't find all the recordings. Is there a way to search by recording number, to get the exact right recording? As of now I'm missing the tracks 7, 8 and 9.
right... Okay. I'll cancel that what I've done until now and get on with the reading. Thanks reosarevok.
2012-01-15 01555, 2012
reosarevok
If you have doubts just ask
2012-01-15 01519, 2012
ianmcorvidae
hrglgrmpf: looks good to me
2012-01-15 01522, 2012
ubsy got the feeling reosarevok knows all the wiki by heart :D
2012-01-15 01525, 2012
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2012-01-15 01538, 2012
hrglgrmpf
ianmcorvidae: great!
2012-01-15 01552, 2012
reosarevok
ubsy: not really, and our search sucks so it's hard to be sure
2012-01-15 01554, 2012
reosarevok
But I try
2012-01-15 01555, 2012
reosarevok
:p
2012-01-15 01501, 2012
hrglgrmpf
ianmcorvidae: I used 50px as margin-right to separate the left and the right table... is there a better way?
2012-01-15 01511, 2012
hrglgrmpf
ianmcorvidae: (em, %, ...)
2012-01-15 01529, 2012
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2012-01-15 01547, 2012
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2012-01-15 01549, 2012
rswarbrick
Hi there! Coming back to lisp MusicBrainz stuff and have found a problem :-) Does anyone know a webservice call that will get the artist credits for all tracks on a release with multiple discs?
2012-01-15 01502, 2012
rswarbrick
(what I'm trying at the moment seems only to get the first disc's worth)
2012-01-15 01522, 2012
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2012-01-15 01524, 2012
rswarbrick
reosarevok: Sorry for disappearing for a bit. Just finished an opera run, which took up quite a lot of time!
2012-01-15 01503, 2012
reosarevok
:)
2012-01-15 01524, 2012
reosarevok was fixing Villa-Lobos
2012-01-15 01529, 2012
rswarbrick
If you need a violinist who can play Hansel and Gretel, just ask! :-)
2012-01-15 01531, 2012
reosarevok
Well, as much as I could
2012-01-15 01536, 2012
rswarbrick
(Ah, no - I was performing!)
2012-01-15 01547, 2012
reosarevok
Yeah, I realised
2012-01-15 01549, 2012
reosarevok
:)
2012-01-15 01513, 2012
reosarevok
I... wasn't
2012-01-15 01517, 2012
rswarbrick
:-)
2012-01-15 01521, 2012
reosarevok
Well, performing amazing feats of editing maybe! :p
2012-01-15 01526, 2012
rswarbrick
I had a look at the Casals release and have done the first disc. Then got stuck because of the problem above :-(
2012-01-15 01528, 2012
rswarbrick
Grr.
2012-01-15 01501, 2012
reosarevok
We now can do those changes natively :)
2012-01-15 01511, 2012
reosarevok
(from the recordings page)
2012-01-15 01515, 2012
rswarbrick
Oh cool! Where in the UI?
2012-01-15 01545, 2012
reosarevok
At the recordings page, you can make changes apply to them too
2012-01-15 01517, 2012
reosarevok
If the release is already correct but the recordings are not, v6lur recommends adding some random crap to a track title
2012-01-15 01521, 2012
rswarbrick
Ah right, cool!
2012-01-15 01523, 2012
reosarevok
Going to the recording tab
2012-01-15 01530, 2012
reosarevok
Checking the "change all" checkbox
2012-01-15 01543, 2012
reosarevok
And then going back and fixing the track title again before submitting the edit
2012-01-15 01548, 2012
rswarbrick
Does it check that the recordings aren't on another release?
2012-01-15 01500, 2012
reosarevok
Not really, you're expected to do that
2012-01-15 01512, 2012
rswarbrick
(frankly, I think that recordings having names is silly anyway, but that's just me)
2012-01-15 01524, 2012
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2012-01-15 01525, 2012
reosarevok
But it doesn't check the checkbox by default, so you're expected to be sure of what you're doing when you check it :)
2012-01-15 01529, 2012
reosarevok
Oh, and there's a bug currently in it
2012-01-15 01534, 2012
rswarbrick
:-)
2012-01-15 01540, 2012
reosarevok
So track times only get propagated if you change something else
2012-01-15 01556, 2012
reosarevok
I hope that'll be fixed soon
2012-01-15 01501, 2012
reosarevok
But all in all, it's sweet :)
2012-01-15 01542, 2012
rswarbrick
Cool!
2012-01-15 01512, 2012
reosarevok
So you'll now be rehearsing Wagner, Elgar and Stravinsky? )
2012-01-15 01513, 2012
reosarevok
*;)
2012-01-15 01540, 2012
reosarevok
Feel free to clean them up a bit in MB while you're at it!
2012-01-15 01534, 2012
rswarbrick
Heh, now I'm arranging "favourite opera arias" for weird ensembles, it seems.
2012-01-15 01540, 2012
rswarbrick
Strange devised production.
2012-01-15 01557, 2012
rswarbrick
(oh, and doing real work in the Maths dept!)
2012-01-15 01520, 2012
reosarevok
Ensembles with vocalists?
2012-01-15 01519, 2012
rswarbrick
Something like that. I think the idea is that the performers on stage will segue into some aria or another, accompanied by an ensemble of players befitting the scene. From string 4tet to jazz band (!)
2012-01-15 01548, 2012
rswarbrick
I'm less worried about arranging for string quartet, but have been reading orchestration textbooks to get some idea about the windier ensembles...
2012-01-15 01504, 2012
nikki
hey rswarbrick :)
2012-01-15 01523, 2012
rswarbrick
Hi nikki!
2012-01-15 01556, 2012
nikki
I'm not sure why you were only getting artist credits for the first disc
2012-01-15 01516, 2012
nikki
the xml linked from the details tab of a release gives artist credits for all of them for me
2012-01-15 01555, 2012
rswarbrick
Yeah, it looks like it's a bug my end. Just been staring at the xml, which contains it. D'oh
it's a long-running survey that asks german speakers what they would say for various things (lots of vocabulary questions, some grammar/pronunciation questions) and then afterwards makes a map where you can see the results. the results of the 8th round are in and the 9th round just started, but I think the link's already been shared with the german speakers in here
nikki: About the XML thing, what was happening was that the second disc was the first time tracks had the same artist credits as their recordings. And the web service doesn't send the data in that case. Thanks for the reply!
2012-01-15 01521, 2012
nikki
no, I'm just interested in the results :)
2012-01-15 01512, 2012
reosarevok
nikki, is strichpunkt just "comma and dot"?
2012-01-15 01549, 2012
nikki
I'd say strich is line or stroke
2012-01-15 01518, 2012
nikki
(but yes to dot)
2012-01-15 01502, 2012
reosarevok
I ask because in Spain we call it "punto y coma" (literally "dot and comma") and : is "dos puntos" ("two dots")
2012-01-15 01515, 2012
reosarevok always found "colon" and "semicolon" kinda silly and fairly... intestinal
2012-01-15 01518, 2012
nikki
I just find it hilarious that there's a horizontal line through the middle of germany like that. most of the maps are nowhere near as neat
2012-01-15 01553, 2012
reosarevok
Yay!
2012-01-15 01553, 2012
nikki
ah, colon is doppelpunkt, comma is komma
2012-01-15 01511, 2012
nikki
the dictionary says comma can be beistrich too, but I've not seen that before
2012-01-15 01515, 2012
reosarevok finishes the last V-L release from the series he's adding
2012-01-15 01550, 2012
reosarevok
"
2012-01-15 01552, 2012
reosarevok
Not bad! :)
2012-01-15 01501, 2012
rswarbrick
Congrats :-)
2012-01-15 01557, 2012
ehrgeiz
comma is komma is beistrich
2012-01-15 01512, 2012
ehrgeiz
yes south of germany and whole austria its beistrich
2012-01-15 01525, 2012
nikki wonders if they did a map of komma/beistrich yet :D
2012-01-15 01531, 2012
ehrgeiz
i was very confused when i moved to berlin
2012-01-15 01524, 2012
Mineo
beistrich sounds ridiculous (but that's what people say about me when I'm not talking hochdeutsch, too :P )
2012-01-15 01510, 2012
MClemo
noone in Bavaria says Beistrich, must be an austrian thing
2012-01-15 01526, 2012
CatCat was going to ask what's so funny abotu *that* then but i relize
2012-01-15 01534, 2012
CatCat
heh we call it "semikolon" too
2012-01-15 01525, 2012
ehrgeiz
MClemo: thanks for correcting me, i thought so. then its solely austrian
2012-01-15 01547, 2012
Shepard
Beistrich sounds too much like Beischlaf (a very formal word for sexual intercourse)
2012-01-15 01553, 2012
CatCat
nikki: is there one for apfelsin vs what was it yet?
ehrgeiz: maybe in some parts of Bavaria people say it, not 100% sure :) at least from where I am from, I never heard it
2012-01-15 01554, 2012
nikki
I also like http://www.philhist.uni-augsburg.de/lehrstuehle/g… - in the very north between the blue (pfannkuchen) and the magenta (eierkuchen), there's a couple of people who either got confused or decided to compromise by saying eierpfannkuchen
2012-01-15 01511, 2012
hrglgrmpf
I mean, there never has been any formal decision which to include/exclude in the first place...
nikki: include "zxx" = "no linguistic content" in the list of selectable languages
2012-01-15 01535, 2012
hrglgrmpf
it's obvious that we need it, especially when we use that list for work language
2012-01-15 01508, 2012
reosarevok
Agreed
2012-01-15 01513, 2012
reosarevok
If for work language
2012-01-15 01531, 2012
reosarevok
Vocalisation stuff needs it
2012-01-15 01502, 2012
hrglgrmpf
I don't know if it really need an RFC for it, because the list of languages/scripts to exclude wasn't part of any style decision in the first place (at least I haven't found any)
2012-01-15 01504, 2012
reosarevok
As long as "no linguistic content" != "no voice"
2012-01-15 01528, 2012
hrglgrmpf
what does the style leader say :-)?
2012-01-15 01500, 2012
hrglgrmpf
or should I make that list part doc "doc/style"?
2012-01-15 01509, 2012
hrglgrmpf
(the list of scripts/languages we don't allow)
2012-01-15 01549, 2012
ianmcorvidae
that list, if we put it anywhere, should be autogenerated
2012-01-15 01505, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(like the instrument list, link types, etc.)
2012-01-15 01535, 2012
hrglgrmpf
probably...
2012-01-15 01520, 2012
hrglgrmpf
but I always felt they were not strictly "forbidden", but that we just don't display them because they are so obscure that they are never needed
2012-01-15 01534, 2012
hrglgrmpf
so just a display issue, not a "we don't allow that"
2012-01-15 01541, 2012
ianmcorvidae
that was my understanding as well, yeah
2012-01-15 01548, 2012
ianmcorvidae
otherwise why have them in the database at all :P
2012-01-15 01522, 2012
hrglgrmpf
multiple scripts (Qaaa) was different, because it wasn't in the database in the first place, but was a new addition, so an RFC made sense
