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      • reosarevok
        Tuksis or tuksis?

        • 2012-01-15 01532, 2012

      • SultS
        tuksis

        • 2012-01-15 01534, 2012

      • rochusw
        which label should I use when amazon says "EMI UK" (somebody recently said here one shouldn't alway believe amazon on labels)? and country for digital media on amazon germany should be EU since all amazon in europe use this?

        • 2012-01-15 01520, 2012

      • reosarevok
        All Amazon in Europe use DE?

        • 2012-01-15 01529, 2012

      • reosarevok
        What about amazon.fr and .es?

        • 2012-01-15 01534, 2012

      • kovacsur
        In case anyone still cares, yes, there was a 1989 CD release as well, "Hungaroton" label, not "Hungaroton Classic", diff cover, longer by about 30 seconds total (presumably longer gaps)

        • 2012-01-15 01503, 2012

      • reosarevok
        kovacsur, feel free to add it, re-using the recordings :)

        • 2012-01-15 01517, 2012

      • reosarevok
        (as you have info)

        • 2012-01-15 01533, 2012

      • kovacsur
        aww, no discid, I was hoping I could ID the one we already have based on that

        • 2012-01-15 01558, 2012

      • kepstin
        aww, using the 'relate to recordings' on a release don't let you add recording-recording relations backwards?

        • 2012-01-15 01510, 2012

      • kepstin
        so I can't use that to add the karaoke relationships :/

        • 2012-01-15 01512, 2012

      • rochusw
        no not all use de, all i checked used the "EMI UK" version ;9)

        • 2012-01-15 01514, 2012

      • SultS
        rochusw: I‘d go with EMI United Kingdim, since seems to be a proper label, and there is IMO good reason to create a page for it.

        • 2012-01-15 01517, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Oooooh, ok

        • 2012-01-15 01520, 2012

      • SultS
        http://www.discogs.com/label/EMI+United+Kingdom

        • 2012-01-15 01523, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I got it wrong then

        • 2012-01-15 01531, 2012

      • SultS
        Kingdom*

        • 2012-01-15 01524, 2012

      • reosarevok really needs to sleep now

        • 2012-01-15 01526, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Night! :)

        • 2012-01-15 01543, 2012

      • SultS
        night!

        • 2012-01-15 01543, 2012

      • kovacsur
        So early? You usually go to bed 4 hours from now

        • 2012-01-15 01547, 2012

      • kovacsur
        Night

        • 2012-01-15 01559, 2012

      • reosarevok
        :p

        • 2012-01-15 01500, 2012

      • reosarevok
        I know

        • 2012-01-15 01509, 2012

      • reosarevok
        But I'm at my gf's and she gets up at 7

        • 2012-01-15 01513, 2012

      • rswarbrick
        reosarevok: Goodnight!

        • 2012-01-15 01529, 2012

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        • 2012-01-15 01531, 2012

      • SultS
        rochusw: you might also wanna read discussion in http://musicbrainz.org/edit/15903793

        • 2012-01-15 01536, 2012

      • rochusw
        should i create a sub-label-relationship to EMI, too?

        • 2012-01-15 01501, 2012

      • SultS
        I’d say yes

        • 2012-01-15 01550, 2012

      • rochusw
        i'm asking, because EMI appears to have NO relationships ;)

        • 2012-01-15 01513, 2012

      • SultS
        and if/when you create it, perhaps you can link the edit to the edit I pasted here

        • 2012-01-15 01527, 2012

      • SultS
        well, EMI is realtively new to MB :)

        • 2012-01-15 01554, 2012

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        • 2012-01-15 01503, 2012

      • rochusw
        that's my first new label ;)

        • 2012-01-15 01534, 2012

      • SultS
        and a fairly big one too, I’d imagine

        • 2012-01-15 01555, 2012

      • kovacsur
        there's EMI Group

        • 2012-01-15 01507, 2012

      • kovacsur
        as the parent of most regional labels

        • 2012-01-15 01546, 2012

      • SultS
        discogs says plain EMI is the parent

        • 2012-01-15 01553, 2012

      • SultS
        but they’ve been wrong before

        • 2012-01-15 01513, 2012

      • kovacsur
        both are correct in a way, I guess

        • 2012-01-15 01526, 2012

      • rochusw
        ah, emi group looks at least more correct than emi ;)

        • 2012-01-15 01531, 2012

      • kovacsur
        EMI Group is more specific

        • 2012-01-15 01541, 2012

      • SultS
        or perhaps emi → emi group → emi uk

        • 2012-01-15 01501, 2012

      • kepstin
        maybe we should just send them an email and ask them for their org chart ;)

        • 2012-01-15 01525, 2012

      • kovacsur
        The Discogs page for "EMI" says, "The current parent company of all the EMI labels and companies is EMI Group. "

        • 2012-01-15 01539, 2012

      • kovacsur
        so maybe they are in the process of moving the sublabels there

        • 2012-01-15 01555, 2012

      • kovacsur
        Confusing.

        • 2012-01-15 01552, 2012

      • SultS
        after some reading I’d put both EMI and EMI United Kingdom under EMI Group, though I don’t consider EMI Group a parent *label*

        • 2012-01-15 01520, 2012

      • kovacsur
        It's a parent company, but if we strictly wanted to use imprints, we'd be in trouble

        • 2012-01-15 01559, 2012

      • SultS
        I agree that it definetly has its uses

        • 2012-01-15 01502, 2012

      • kovacsur
        The "EMI" imprint is used globally, so we'd have to stick releases from dozens of regions under the same MB label

        • 2012-01-15 01525, 2012

      • kepstin
        maybe we should add another label type for these top level companies, 'holding group' or something.

        • 2012-01-15 01533, 2012

      • SultS
        there already is “holding”

        • 2012-01-15 01503, 2012

      • SultS
        EMI Group is under holding, but the page still displays misleading “Label”

        • 2012-01-15 01532, 2012

      • SultS
        I think label pages should use type like work pages do

        • 2012-01-15 01551, 2012

      • kepstin
        that should be a pretty simple patch

        • 2012-01-15 01555, 2012

      • SultS
        …and display it right under the name

        • 2012-01-15 01506, 2012

      • SultS
        yeah

        • 2012-01-15 01510, 2012

      • kovacsur
        Ouch, is the track parser broken?

        • 2012-01-15 01535, 2012

      • kovacsur
        Throws "copy is undefined" errors in FF9

        • 2012-01-15 01546, 2012

      • kepstin
        kovacsur: it's working as well as it ever has for me on webkit

        • 2012-01-15 01556, 2012

      • kovacsur
        Interesting

        • 2012-01-15 01509, 2012

      • SultS
        Didn’t have any problems with it yesterday at least wiht FF9

        • 2012-01-15 01522, 2012

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        • 2012-01-15 01559, 2012

      • kovacsur
        wb reosarevok :p

        • 2012-01-15 01501, 2012

      • kovacsur
        Oh, it worked with "Detect durations" checked

        • 2012-01-15 01516, 2012

      • kepstin
        there we go, http://musicbrainz.org/release/a694205f-a69f-4ab5… is probably as complete as it ever will be.

        • 2012-01-15 01531, 2012

      • SultS
        kepstin, could I ask you a quick favour of checking if JASRAC has any works related to Niels Kinsella? It’s a little bit difficult to use, if I can’t understand anything / using gtranslator :) other databases don’t seem to have bonus tracks from japanese album versions.

        • 2012-01-15 01502, 2012

      • kepstin
        SultS: do you have the catalog number of one of the japanese releases handy?

        • 2012-01-15 01532, 2012

      • SultS
        kepstin, HPCD001

        • 2012-01-15 01525, 2012

      • SultS
        (label Happy Prince)

        • 2012-01-15 01525, 2012

      • kepstin
        hmm, that's not in the music forest db.

        • 2012-01-15 01546, 2012

      • kepstin
        I can find exactly one work in the jasrac database with 'KINSELLA NIELS GUNTER' credited as a writer

        • 2012-01-15 01556, 2012

      • kepstin
        Headstrong, performed by The Devlins

        • 2012-01-15 01527, 2012

      • SultS
        no, I’m looking for anything performed by God Is an Astronaut

        • 2012-01-15 01544, 2012

      • SultS
        Maybe they just don’t exist :P

        • 2012-01-15 01558, 2012

      • SultS
        but thanks for looking :)

        • 2012-01-15 01535, 2012

      • kepstin
        there's lots of stuff in iswcnet with niels kinsella as a writer and got is an astronaut as performer

        • 2012-01-15 01550, 2012

      • SultS
        yeah, I’ve gone through all of these

        • 2012-01-15 01558, 2012

      • SultS
        few works are missing

        • 2012-01-15 01527, 2012

      • SultS
        http://musicbrainz.org/artist/e9dfc148-d5f6-425e-…

        • 2012-01-15 01504, 2012

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