then I think there is some point of agreement... so long as there's not then edit wars adding and removing the spaces on only personal preference... :)
2012-01-12 01236, 2012
jesus2099
reosarevok: The lack of official rules and mixed useage I was looking for convincing points and found A. school books (space) B. official propaganda in big letters over each street walls (space) C. why not historical reasons (space) it’s just that.
2012-01-12 01209, 2012
jesus2099
I’m not saying historical reasons is the most important stuff at all
2012-01-12 01216, 2012
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2012-01-12 01218, 2012
BrianFreud
jesus2099, aren't those about the most "official" sources you could find, lacking an actual official office of the language?
2012-01-12 01232, 2012
jesus2099
BrianFreud: It’s what I believed, yes
2012-01-12 01245, 2012
jesus2099
as much official as it could be
2012-01-12 01212, 2012
BrianFreud
but you keep saying we should ignore Foolip's sources
2012-01-12 01233, 2012
hawke_
I’d say we should follow language as it actually is, and not as some authority claims it should be.
2012-01-12 01250, 2012
jesus2099
BrianFreud: not ignore, I say them less significance
2012-01-12 01205, 2012
jesus2099
hawke_: how it is ? IT IS MIXED
2012-01-12 01216, 2012
BrianFreud finds it kind of amusing that the most debated point in any caps standard ever is over whether to include not even a space, but half a space :P
2012-01-12 01222, 2012
jesus2099
in this mix, I extracted the most official stuff and it says spaces
2012-01-12 01256, 2012
jesus2099
BrianFreud: when it’s a space before pucnt. it is to be narrow. but technical difficulties prevented this in many areas, just like the accentuated capitals
2012-01-12 01212, 2012
jesus2099
but it looks more natural with the narrow (for natives)
2012-01-12 01219, 2012
jesus2099
(for people used to read books)
2012-01-12 01234, 2012
jesus2099
(this is french I’m talking about for instance here)
2012-01-12 01202, 2012
jesus2099 should write to vietnam’s minister of culture and ask her/him to release an official document on language typography :)
2012-01-12 01207, 2012
BrianFreud
:D
2012-01-12 01213, 2012
jesus2099
just for those guys on MB
2012-01-12 01221, 2012
jesus2099
for those handful of titles
2012-01-12 01252, 2012
reosarevok
Hey, wouldn't it be funny :p
2012-01-12 01203, 2012
reosarevok
You could ask him to send us some money too while he's at it then :p
2012-01-12 01211, 2012
jesus2099
BrianFreud: IIRC (which doesn’t mean In IRC as I first thought), I used narrow in my first edit note in vietnamese ;)
2012-01-12 01244, 2012
nikki
you could make an alternate proposal that just drops the standardisation. it seems there are more people in favour of that
2012-01-12 01254, 2012
jesus2099
nikki: I just DROP IT (remove the chapter from my RFC-WIKI) and update the thread by saying « hey, something’s changed » ?
2012-01-12 01238, 2012
jesus2099
this will be some major, improvement as far as i’m concerned.
2012-01-12 01252, 2012
jesus2099
the →,← was wrong place
2012-01-12 01218, 2012
jesus2099
nikki: but I haven’t seen people not in favour with current RFC btw :p
2012-01-12 01227, 2012
jesus2099
neither -1 nor +1 ;p
2012-01-12 01239, 2012
jesus2099
but I will propose the drop as it’s better than nothing
2012-01-12 01245, 2012
nikki
I would probably include some mention of it that says both are allowed and that we prefer what's on the cover, but basically yes
2012-01-12 01226, 2012
hawke_
BrianFreud: It takes ten people an hour to dig a hole. How long does it take 20 people to dig half a hole?
2012-01-12 01235, 2012
jesus2099
nikki: I’ll try to write that but my english is poors and I probably won’t find such example to copy/paste from other lang. guidelines :)
2012-01-12 01245, 2012
jesus2099
but I’ll try because it sounds cool
2012-01-12 01211, 2012
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2012-01-12 01213, 2012
BrianFreud
hawke_, longer.
2012-01-12 01214, 2012
BrianFreud
:)
2012-01-12 01255, 2012
nikki
jesus2099: "including spaces before punctuation (as in french) and not including spaces before punctuation (as in english) are both acceptable. the version used on the cover is preferred"?
2012-01-12 01218, 2012
hawke_
BrianFreud: Well, the joke is that there is no such thing as half a hole… It was just the first thing I thought of when you mentioned half a space.
2012-01-12 01230, 2012
BrianFreud
lol
2012-01-12 01235, 2012
jesus2099
nikki: how nicely said !
2012-01-12 01208, 2012
jesus2099
nikki: French and English take capitals in English ;)
2012-01-12 01226, 2012
jesus2099
but how nicely said, anyway !
2012-01-12 01252, 2012
jesus2099
(you taught me this capital thing)
2012-01-12 01238, 2012
jesus2099
“RFCVN” ← this is for me to find nikki’s text back when I need it
2012-01-12 01236, 2012
nikki doesn't use capitals much on irc
2012-01-12 01256, 2012
reosarevok
And that's bad! :D
2012-01-12 01259, 2012
nikki
as you'll notice, I didn't capitalise the start of the sentence either
"Different pressing of a CD often have slightly different frame offsets, and hence different disc IDs."
2012-01-12 01251, 2012
CallerNo6
"Often" meaning "extremely likely"? Or "often" meaning "common enough to be worth mentioning"?
2012-01-12 01253, 2012
jesus2099
reosarevok: what’s currently cooler in beta that makes you using it ?
2012-01-12 01216, 2012
reosarevok
jesus2099, being able to apply track changes to recordings too
2012-01-12 01227, 2012
jesus2099
there is a checkbox ?
2012-01-12 01231, 2012
reosarevok
Yes
2012-01-12 01238, 2012
jesus2099
wow, that’s cool indeed
2012-01-12 01256, 2012
reosarevok
Also, in general, I want to find stuff that breaks so the rest of the users don't have to :p
2012-01-12 01204, 2012
jesus2099
isn’t it faster too ?
2012-01-12 01231, 2012
hawke_
CallerNo6: the latter
2012-01-12 01200, 2012
jesus2099
reosarevok: wher’s the checkboxN ? I renamed track 1 to « Fuga y Misterio (Fugue and Mystery WTF) » but no checkbox in the last edit release tab before submitssion
