yeah, I suspect I'd get better results from something on AUR
2012-01-31 03152, 2012
Leftmost
What's wrong with networkmanager?
2012-01-31 03104, 2012
kepstin-laptop
I really like networkmanager.
2012-01-31 03105, 2012
Leftmost
It works a hell of a lot better than manually configuring wpa_supplicant.
2012-01-31 03133, 2012
kepstin-laptop
admittedly, if you're on a desktop with a static wired connection, it seems kind of silly.
2012-01-31 03137, 2012
ianmcorvidae
a.) fails to work 80-90% of the time in my experience, b.) pulls in half the universe, c.) prevents me from configuring things I want to be able to
2012-01-31 03147, 2012
kepstin-laptop
I can't use it on my desktop because of the nfs /home mount.
2012-01-31 03147, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I use wicd
2012-01-31 03157, 2012
Leftmost
It failed for me all the time when I started using it, but that was ages ago.
2012-01-31 03103, 2012
Leftmost
Now it works nearly flawlessly.
2012-01-31 03122, 2012
Leftmost
It's got some work to do on configuration, but I think the GNOME chaps realize that.
2012-01-31 03124, 2012
kepstin-laptop
but on my laptop? people using other oses are jealous of how easily I connect to my school network :)
2012-01-31 03151, 2012
ianmcorvidae
heh
2012-01-31 03102, 2012
kepstin-laptop
particularly on windows, the wireless configuration on windows for setting up a PEAP/MSCHAPv2 connection is horrendous :/
2012-01-31 03105, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I also avoid anywhere with stupidly complex network connection schemes
2012-01-31 03120, 2012
Leftmost
ianmcorvidae, that'd leave me without wireless at uni.
2012-01-31 03107, 2012
ianmcorvidae
dammit, tracker-git still expects all those things
2012-01-31 03113, 2012
ianmcorvidae
maybe someday I'll just switch to gentoo
2012-01-31 03120, 2012
Leftmost
I can either use unsecured wireless with Cisco VPN (I was the first student of 13,000 to figure out how to do this) or the new WPA2 with crazy insane configuration for authentication (also the first to figure that out).
2012-01-31 03147, 2012
Leftmost
Gentoo. :| I LOVE USE flags, I hate how much work and time it is to maintain.
2012-01-31 03154, 2012
kepstin-laptop
they recently upgraded my school to wireless-n, that was nice.
2012-01-31 03115, 2012
ianmcorvidae
heh, my school is lazy
2012-01-31 03140, 2012
ianmcorvidae
we have unsecured wireless or other unsecured wireless (one of them has a once-per-semester 'log in so we can associate this MAC address with you')
2012-01-31 03129, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(I often do the registration as one of the student groups I'm part of, since they don't differentiate accounts that are people from other accounts :P)
2012-01-31 03102, 2012
ianmcorvidae
my school also has ~1400 students
2012-01-31 03104, 2012
ianmcorvidae
so, related.
2012-01-31 03106, 2012
kepstin-laptop is one of the only people he knows who has a full Gnome 3 installation
2012-01-31 03154, 2012
Leftmost
Me! :P
2012-01-31 03111, 2012
ianmcorvidae
but yeah, I don't know how far along wicd is with some of the more esoteric wifi schemes, but I still prefer it to networkmanager
2012-01-31 03127, 2012
kepstin-laptop
I'm actually running bits and pieces of gnome 3.3 betas right now for fun ;)
2012-01-31 03142, 2012
kepstin-laptop likes the epiphany updates so far
2012-01-31 03142, 2012
ianmcorvidae
generally, though, I prefer using iwconfig :P
2012-01-31 03144, 2012
luks
I'm starting to think that gnome 3 will be the thing that will make me switch to mac
2012-01-31 03149, 2012
Leftmost
I'd do it for translation, but I've had too many breakages that way.
2012-01-31 03115, 2012
ianmcorvidae
bleh, translation
2012-01-31 03127, 2012
ianmcorvidae
just makes me think about MB's horrid state re: i18n
2012-01-31 03136, 2012
kepstin-laptop
hmm. does libmusicbrainz4 do any rate-limiting internally?
2012-01-31 03106, 2012
kepstin-laptop
given that riker grabs information via the webservice, I will really have to think quite a bit about its update policies so it doesn't become the next headphones :/
2012-01-31 03117, 2012
ianmcorvidae
no idea re: libmb4
2012-01-31 03140, 2012
ianmcorvidae
but yes, you will :)
2012-01-31 03143, 2012
kepstin-laptop
i'll probably make it try to update info once a month or so, staggered per entity in the database.
2012-01-31 03154, 2012
kepstin-laptop
with a manual refresh button available as well.
2012-01-31 03101, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I think a player is probably better-suited to deal with longer update delays than headphones, though, so
2012-01-31 03151, 2012
kepstin-laptop
one thing I was thinking of doing was doing a metadata update only in the following case: you start playback of a file, and its last metadata update is over (timeperiod) ago.
2012-01-31 03111, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2012-01-31 03112, 2012
kepstin-laptop
but having a background update would be really nice as well.
2012-01-31 03132, 2012
kepstin-laptop
so your dynamic playlists are improved when someone adds more info.
2012-01-31 03135, 2012
ianmcorvidae
possibly extend it to "this file is N ahead in the playlist and its last update is over X ago"
2012-01-31 03149, 2012
ianmcorvidae
so that you don't get a metadata update in the middle of a song playing
2012-01-31 03153, 2012
ianmcorvidae
ideally
2012-01-31 03116, 2012
kepstin-laptop
yeah, wouldn't be hard to do it a couple songs ahead.
2012-01-31 03153, 2012
kepstin-laptop
that along with a very slow background update would probably work fairly well.
2012-01-31 03114, 2012
kepstin-laptop
could make the background update use a longer interval than the update on playback even.
2012-01-31 03134, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2012-01-31 03110, 2012
ianmcorvidae
two weeks for playback, month for background or something like that
2012-01-31 03120, 2012
ianmcorvidae
(or 1 month/ >1 months)
2012-01-31 03136, 2012
kepstin-laptop
the background scan would be designed to spread out the queries over time, e.g. averaging one/minute or so.
2012-01-31 03145, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah, of course
2012-01-31 03159, 2012
ianmcorvidae
with listening stats you could even preference things that get listened to more frequently :)
2012-01-31 03108, 2012
kepstin-laptop
quite true :)
2012-01-31 03154, 2012
ianmcorvidae files an issue for headphones telling them that they should really probably put a version number in their user-agent so we can unthrottle better-behaved versions of their software
2012-01-31 03106, 2012
kepstin-laptop
hmm. I apparently have 2332 releases. Assuming one query per release and one query per minute, that would mean it would take 38 hours to update everything
2012-01-31 03126, 2012
kepstin-laptop
naturally, it'll probably end up being a more queries than that per release :/
2012-01-31 03150, 2012
ianmcorvidae
probably
2012-01-31 03154, 2012
ianmcorvidae
artist updates and things need to happen too
2012-01-31 03146, 2012
kepstin-laptop
I can probably do most recording and work updates via a release query tho, which should save quite a few queries.
2012-01-31 03140, 2012
kepstin-laptop
dynamic playlist: songs released in the 1980s with vocals performed by a female
2012-01-31 03102, 2012
kepstin-laptop
wouldn't playlists like that be ridiculously awesome?
2012-01-31 03107, 2012
kepstin-laptop should get some sleep.
2012-01-31 03108, 2012
ianmcorvidae
they would.
2012-01-31 03127, 2012
Leftmost
Sleep is for the weak.
2012-01-31 03100, 2012
ianmcorvidae
ooh, library deduplication
2012-01-31 03101, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I like it :)
2012-01-31 03157, 2012
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2012-01-31 03117, 2012
VxJasonxV
when I enter a release, and verify an artist (green background), it really needs to apply the same verification to the original identical artist strings
2012-01-31 03120, 2012
VxJasonxV
artist credits and all
2012-01-31 03122, 2012
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2012-01-31 03152, 2012
VxJasonxV
wtf
2012-01-31 03109, 2012
VxJasonxV
selecting an artist post-tracklist leaves the artist as-is for artist credits?!
2012-01-31 03112, 2012
VxJasonxV
aslkdjglkerjglkerjg
2012-01-31 03113, 2012
VxJasonxV
that is NOT what I wanted.
2012-01-31 03140, 2012
VxJasonxV
and now I have to undo all the artist credits
2012-01-31 03142, 2012
VxJasonxV
that is not nice
2012-01-31 03145, 2012
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2012-01-31 03132, 2012
VxJasonxV
picking artists in NGS sucks so much :/.
2012-01-31 03145, 2012
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derwin
yeah, vxjason, I have run into that before
2012-01-31 03118, 2012
derwin
you have to actually go into tracks and etc, iirc
2012-01-31 03129, 2012
derwin
lots of clicking..
2012-01-31 03130, 2012
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2012-01-31 03138, 2012
ianmcorvidae adds a whole bunch of wishlist issues to riker so kepstin has something to do tomorrow ;)
It goes agains the description: “This links an artist's performance name (a stage name or alias) with that artist's legal name. ”
2012-01-31 03105, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I think the rare case may only be applicable pre-NGS
2012-01-31 03127, 2012
ianmcorvidae
in NGS-land I think we'd probably just use ACs/aliases
2012-01-31 03156, 2012
ianmcorvidae
well, I guess if a group and something it performs under are sufficiently different that two artists makes sense (I suspect this happens close to never) then you'd link them with that
the difficult question to me is why not merge the artists
2012-01-31 03109, 2012
SultS
“1985 või 86 bänd sai disklahvi ja lihtsalt muutis nime GGG-ks, et edasi tegutseda.” = 1985 or 86 band was banned and changed it’s name to GGG, to be able to continue on.
2012-01-31 03145, 2012
SultS
Well I am personally not sure that there weren’t any member changes…
2012-01-31 03153, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2012-01-31 03106, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I'm going to ask Hinkus to say why these shouldn't just be merged
2012-01-31 03109, 2012
ianmcorvidae
on that edit
2012-01-31 03113, 2012
ianmcorvidae
and we can see what he/she says
2012-01-31 03122, 2012
SultS
OK, thanks
2012-01-31 03142, 2012
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2012-01-31 03117, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I should possibly stop putting wishlist things on riker's issues page; 20 of its 25 issues were created by me at this point :P
I was trying it yesterday, but it didn't finish importing my music before I left the office :)
2012-01-31 03155, 2012
ianmcorvidae
haha
2012-01-31 03106, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I'm always really wary of autotaggers
2012-01-31 03115, 2012
warp
ah, I didn't let it tag anything.
2012-01-31 03130, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2012-01-31 03131, 2012
warp
(or move files around)
2012-01-31 03153, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I've considered trying to use it to regularly update my embedded metadata
2012-01-31 03102, 2012
ianmcorvidae
since I can't exactly put picard in a crontab :)
2012-01-31 03136, 2012
warp
it would be nice to have a commandline tagger which just doesn't do anything if there's MBIDs present.
2012-01-31 03105, 2012
ianmcorvidae
or that only does stuff if there's MBIDs present -- specifically, update things only when they've already got an MBID tagged
2012-01-31 03124, 2012
warp
one of the things I've wanted to do for ages is make picard more modular, so you can run without the GUI but still have all the same settings + tagger scripts.
2012-01-31 03134, 2012
ianmcorvidae
yeah, agreed
2012-01-31 03113, 2012
warp
never had time for it of course.
2012-01-31 03120, 2012
ianmcorvidae
no, 'course not
2012-01-31 03132, 2012
ianmcorvidae
I've considered trying to do the same thing, haven't done it for the same reason :)
2012-01-31 03136, 2012
jacobbrett
kepstin-laptop: Perhaps a solution to rate-throttling with Riker would be to implement a P2P database mechanism? Probably a big job, but far better for all that data going around.
2012-01-31 03102, 2012
ianmcorvidae
heh, wow
2012-01-31 03107, 2012
warp
ianmcorvidae: er, yeah, that's what I meant. a tagger which only does stuff where there are MBIDs present. just to update old tags and rename files/folders.
