even if they entered it wrong, would the see immediately when the page is ready ,and go "oh I need to fix that"
2012-04-10 10157, 2012
nikki has no sympathy for native speakers who put days in a field marked "YYYY"
2012-04-10 10106, 2012
CatCat
i actually liek the idea of havign to enter 0900 for year 900
2012-04-10 10120, 2012
CatCat
in order to spesify that you *mean* year 900
2012-04-10 10116, 2012
CatCat
nikki: _I suspect it's actually more common among "native" english as the are lots of them with "weird" order *cough*american*cough*cough*
2012-04-10 10128, 2012
CatCat
atleast these with bogus year is easily spotted
2012-04-10 10151, 2012
nikki
well, brits don't normally use yyyy-mm-dd either.
2012-04-10 10154, 2012
CatCat
the sheer amount that must (wrongly) in the format YYYY-DD-MM is horrible
2012-04-10 10104, 2012
CatCat
but you use dd-mm-yyyy?
2012-04-10 10107, 2012
nikki
yes
2012-04-10 10110, 2012
CatCat
i think we do too acutally
2012-04-10 10133, 2012
CatCat
could make a stand for havign the forms in the order dd-mm-yyyy
2012-04-10 10150, 2012
nikki would argue that mb should just implement her date parser :P
2012-04-10 10157, 2012
crism
CatCat, that would be *more* likely to confuse the Americans.
2012-04-10 10157, 2012
CatCat
i totally agree
2012-04-10 10159, 2012
nikki
(without the bugs)
2012-04-10 10132, 2012
crism
It’s too close to the mm/dd/yyyy format folks are used to, whereas ISO 8601 is noticeably foreign (if they are paying any attention at all).
2012-04-10 10105, 2012
CatCat
crism: I don't see that, yyyy-mm-dd is just as "confusing" as dd-mm-yyyy for someone who's usign monthmonth-dayday-yearyearyearyear
2012-04-10 10118, 2012
CatCat
but seriosuly. WTF mm-dd-yyyy?
2012-04-10 10127, 2012
nikki
dd-mm-yyyy has the same number of digits in each place though
2012-04-10 10133, 2012
reosarevok
Puuuurple links
2012-04-10 10144, 2012
nikki
yyyy-mm-dd doesn't, so it's more attention-grabbing
2012-04-10 10150, 2012
CatCat
nikki: yea it is
2012-04-10 10152, 2012
CatCat
true
2012-04-10 10155, 2012
CatCat
reosarevok: i know <3
2012-04-10 10158, 2012
crism
CatCat: I can’t explain mm/dd/yyyy, but it’s what’s standard in the USA. If you ask an American to fill in dd/mm/yyyy, the chance of an undetected error is *huge*.
2012-04-10 10158, 2012
CatCat
it's liek americans intentionally implement retarded ways of measuring things.
2012-04-10 10131, 2012
moufl
I'd say it's a derivative of mm-dd
2012-04-10 10132, 2012
CatCat
i mena we used ot have retared measurign things before too, it wasn't retared beofer whn peopel wher farmers and stuff and a foot was your foot or whatnot
2012-04-10 10132, 2012
crism
Whereas with yyyy-mm-dd, you can at least computationally detect errors like nn-nn-nn.
2012-04-10 10135, 2012
CatCat
made sense then
2012-04-10 10141, 2012
moufl
makes more sense to have mm before
2012-04-10 10154, 2012
CatCat
moufl: what?
2012-04-10 10102, 2012
moufl
maybe you care less about the year since you plan things from month to month
2012-04-10 10111, 2012
moufl
if that makes sense
2012-04-10 10115, 2012
moufl
apparently not
2012-04-10 10120, 2012
CatCat
it's like crism and nikki say, rthat it's probably better with yyyy-mm-dd
2012-04-10 10127, 2012
moufl
yes
2012-04-10 10128, 2012
crism
moufl is right, I think, CatCat. “April 10, 2012” makes sense to write as 4/10/12, whereas “10 avril 2012” makes sense to write as 10/4/12.
2012-04-10 10143, 2012
moufl
^
2012-04-10 10146, 2012
nikki writes "10th april 2012"
2012-04-10 10151, 2012
CatCat does too
2012-04-10 10156, 2012
crism does too
2012-04-10 10107, 2012
CatCat
i don't get moufl explanatino thoguh
2012-04-10 10113, 2012
CatCat
plan things for mmonth to month?
2012-04-10 10123, 2012
moufl
when you plan something
2012-04-10 10126, 2012
crism
We are also all nerds who spend an inordinate amount of time entering detailed information about recorded music into a computer…
2012-04-10 10139, 2012
CatCat
what does that evebn remotly have with having a weird date system?
2012-04-10 10142, 2012
nikki
moufl: so use yyyy-mm-dd if you want it to sort properly :P
2012-04-10 10146, 2012
moufl
you don't plan 5 years ahead
2012-04-10 10155, 2012
CatCat
moufl: soem peopel do, so what?
2012-04-10 10155, 2012
moufl
I use that nikki
2012-04-10 10105, 2012
crism
CatCat: We all write the date in a logical order. We are not like most people. The MBz interface should be usable by most people.
2012-04-10 10123, 2012
moufl
I'm trying to explain why mm-dd-yyyy is a not so weird
2012-04-10 10132, 2012
CatCat
crism: hey I said you guys we're right! i'm not arguing about yyy-mm-dd :D
2012-04-10 10149, 2012
crism
CatCat: OK! Cool.
2012-04-10 10152, 2012
CatCat
:D
2012-04-10 10127, 2012
moufl
me neither
2012-04-10 10141, 2012
moufl
except i'd like a single boc
2012-04-10 10144, 2012
moufl
box*
2012-04-10 10148, 2012
CatCat
what system do thay have in Australia, does anyone know?
2012-04-10 10154, 2012
CatCat
moufl: nikki's script
2012-04-10 10122, 2012
moufl
where??? I asked for this earlier but people didn't notice
Okay, so I recently became an auto-editor and I tried to add a stand-alone recording: "Sorry, you must have been a member for at least 2 weeks and have 10 accepted non-auto-edits before you may add standalone recordings". Oddest thing is that I was fine adding some a few days ago.
2012-04-10 10141, 2012
CatCat
but you live in Sweden? :p
2012-04-10 10100, 2012
CatCat
jacobbrett: :O
2012-04-10 10104, 2012
nikki
jacobbrett: hah, they just changed the criteria for people considered limited users
2012-04-10 10107, 2012
nikki
looks like it's broken :P
2012-04-10 10121, 2012
jacobbrett
:( Well, at least there's no mystery. :P
2012-04-10 10143, 2012
jacobbrett
So, could someone help me out, then?
2012-04-10 10156, 2012
CatCat
nikki: what was chnaged?
2012-04-10 10153, 2012
reosarevok
jacobbrett: all of us have the same problem
2012-04-10 10100, 2012
nikki
I like the map on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Date_upd1… more, the colours are what you get when you mix them. like the kenyans apparently don't give a shit what date it is and use both dd-mm-yyyy (blue) and mm-dd-yyyy (red) so they're coloured purple
2012-04-10 10110, 2012
reosarevok
jacobbrett: I've told the devs, let's see what happens
2012-04-10 10112, 2012
jacobbrett
reosarevok: Hahaha.
2012-04-10 10136, 2012
reosarevok
So countries with yyyy-mm-dd are Iran, China, North Korea... we cater to the best!
2012-04-10 10110, 2012
nikki
basically everyone who's *not* using mb
2012-04-10 10110, 2012
ruaok joined the channel
2012-04-10 10112, 2012
SultS
I think I also found a new bug… can’t expand collapsed disc tracklist when editing a release…
2012-04-10 10113, 2012
nikki
except the hungarians
2012-04-10 10114, 2012
reosarevok
jacobbrett: seems to work
2012-04-10 10129, 2012
reosarevok
nikki: and the Lith... wait, they're barely using mb
