16:24 PM
crism
reosarevok: Whoops, you’re right. Confusing MBz and Freebase schemata again.
2012-04-10 10106, 2012
16:26 PM
reosarevok
2012-04-10 10117, 2012
16:27 PM
crism
reosarevok: Song is a kind of Work, of course. What kind of choral thingy is it? IOW, how would you describe it if not constrained by the MBz types?
2012-04-10 10101, 2012
16:28 PM
reosarevok
I would *probably* use song, but then, I'd probably use song too for stuff which is really a madrigal, for example
2012-04-10 10126, 2012
16:28 PM
reosarevok
(and since I haven't *heard* this one, I can only take a guess)
2012-04-10 10107, 2012
16:29 PM
CallerNo6 suspects that if reo doesn't know what it means, it probably isn't very meaningful.
2012-04-10 10158, 2012
16:29 PM
reosarevok
CallerNo6: it was added to have something to use for pop songs
2012-04-10 10118, 2012
16:30 PM
CallerNo6
yeah, understood
2012-04-10 10136, 2012
16:30 PM
reosarevok
But it still makes sense to use it for songs in the classical sense - problem is that "song" in the classical sense is not too well defined either
2012-04-10 10154, 2012
16:34 PM
bitmap
reosarevok: the arrow issue is fixed now
2012-04-10 10159, 2012
16:34 PM
reosarevok
:D
2012-04-10 10106, 2012
17:33 PM
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17:35 PM
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2012-04-10 10138, 2012
17:36 PM
kepstin-laptop
2012-04-10 10102, 2012
17:38 PM
kepstin-laptop
the real questions is what to use for track artists...
2012-04-10 10121, 2012
17:40 PM
ianmcorvidae
you could use CSG ;) call the vocaloids the performers and the people the composers :P
2012-04-10 10147, 2012
17:43 PM
kepstin-laptop
but do I credit it to the composers or the arrangers?
2012-04-10 10102, 2012
17:44 PM
kepstin-laptop
given that the arrangers really have more influence over the 'sound' of the particular track.
2012-04-10 10121, 2012
17:44 PM
kepstin-laptop loves the new track reordering buttons in the release editor
2012-04-10 10109, 2012
17:54 PM
reosarevok would like them more if they were optional
2012-04-10 10119, 2012
17:54 PM
reosarevok
Given how rare reordering is, they stand in the way
2012-04-10 10159, 2012
17:54 PM
SultS
2012-04-10 10106, 2012
17:55 PM
kepstin-laptop
hmm. actually, using the arrangers as track artists on this release probably isn't a bad idea.
2012-04-10 10149, 2012
17:55 PM
derwin
LOL BRONY MUSICIAN
2012-04-10 10151, 2012
17:55 PM
derwin
I LOLLED
2012-04-10 10159, 2012
17:58 PM
reosarevok
Cool story, brony
2012-04-10 10150, 2012
18:00 PM
kepstin-laptop also likes being able to actually see if a link is visited or not :)
2012-04-10 10153, 2012
18:02 PM
reosarevok
I have to say it looks better than I feared
2012-04-10 10128, 2012
18:03 PM
ianmcorvidae
reosarevok: he had it up on his sandbox, you could have reviewed it :P
2012-04-10 10133, 2012
18:03 PM
ianmcorvidae
(I did)
2012-04-10 10129, 2012
18:04 PM
reosarevok
2012-04-10 10136, 2012
18:04 PM
reosarevok
"After a successful pilot scheme in Huddersfield, transport bosses are turning to classical music to deter gangs of youths from loitering"
2012-04-10 10147, 2012
18:04 PM
ianmcorvidae
heh, yeah, heard about that
2012-04-10 10121, 2012
18:05 PM
reosarevok
I mean, I guess anything beats muzak
2012-04-10 10130, 2012
18:05 PM
reosarevok
So I guess good for the passengers
2012-04-10 10132, 2012
18:05 PM
reosarevok
But still
2012-04-10 10136, 2012
18:05 PM
reosarevok
Classical-as-weapon?
2012-04-10 10104, 2012
18:06 PM
reosarevok
I could understand it if it was Jon Leifs
2012-04-10 10108, 2012
18:06 PM
reosarevok
But... dunno
2012-04-10 10107, 2012
18:07 PM
reosarevok goes play some Leifs
2012-04-10 10140, 2012
18:07 PM
ianmcorvidae
heh, 'yobs'
2012-04-10 10124, 2012
18:09 PM
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18:17 PM
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2012-04-10 10122, 2012
18:19 PM
CallerNo6
2012-04-10 10146, 2012
18:20 PM
reosarevok
Oooooh, hawke_1, you finally got to RFV
2012-04-10 10109, 2012
18:21 PM
hawke_1
reosarevok: I know, right? Took forever
2012-04-10 10124, 2012
18:21 PM
reosarevok has to admit he stopped reading after a while :p
2012-04-10 10129, 2012
18:21 PM
hawke_1
I thought SwissChris would never let it pass. We’ll see if he does now.
2012-04-10 10131, 2012
18:21 PM
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2012-04-10 10140, 2012
18:21 PM
hawke_1
At least it was constructive though
2012-04-10 10150, 2012
18:21 PM
hawke_1
and not just “fuck you I hate this idea” ;-)
2012-04-10 10122, 2012
18:22 PM
reosarevok
In style? Never!
2012-04-10 10127, 2012
18:24 PM
warp
oh, something to veto?
2012-04-10 10141, 2012
18:24 PM
warp switches to thunderbird
2012-04-10 10103, 2012
18:25 PM
CallerNo6 chuckles
2012-04-10 10115, 2012
18:26 PM
warp
hawke_1: it shouldn't mention audiobook style, we have no audiobook style.
2012-04-10 10140, 2012
18:27 PM
hawke_1
warp: That was mentioned in the RFC as well — I linked it to where audiobook style will be when we have one
2012-04-10 10114, 2012
18:28 PM
hawke_1
I’m pretty sure we will have one eventually, and I’d rather not re-RFC this for something like that
2012-04-10 10108, 2012
18:29 PM
warp
hawke_1: eventually is a long time. I don't want our _official_ guidelines to have broken links that long.
2012-04-10 10100, 2012
18:30 PM
hawke_1
Well, I could offer to work on audiobook style. :-)
2012-04-10 10113, 2012
18:30 PM
reosarevok
hawke_1: you could keep it in your proposal, and as part of the RFV, but say it's to be added to the page once we have an audiobook style
2012-04-10 10133, 2012
18:30 PM
reosarevok
(no second RFC needed then, since it will be accepted with the rest)
2012-04-10 10102, 2012
18:31 PM
CallerNo6
oh, I like that. a proposal can be more of a migration path.
2012-04-10 10105, 2012
18:31 PM
hawke_1
Yeah, but who’s gonna remember to change that (yeah, I know: I should)
2012-04-10 10129, 2012
18:31 PM
reosarevok
Yeah, you should :p
2012-04-10 10141, 2012
18:31 PM
reosarevok
But the ticket could be left open
2012-04-10 10148, 2012
18:31 PM
reosarevok
as a reminder
2012-04-10 10144, 2012
18:33 PM
hawke_1
Could work
2012-04-10 10104, 2012
18:34 PM
hawke_1
warp: Alright, anything else before I RFC-2 this thing? ;-)
2012-04-10 10128, 2012
18:35 PM
hawke_1
er, RFV-2
2012-04-10 10148, 2012
18:35 PM
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2012-04-10 10155, 2012
18:35 PM
reosarevok
You can just send a reply to it, no need to really RFV-2 it, I guess
2012-04-10 10101, 2012
18:36 PM
reosarevok
But nothing from me
2012-04-10 10148, 2012
18:36 PM
warp
hawke_1: not so far.
2012-04-10 10154, 2012
18:36 PM
reosarevok
Argh loss of session data
2012-04-10 10101, 2012
18:37 PM
warp
(I'm still reading)
2012-04-10 10108, 2012
18:37 PM
reosarevok mehs at having to click save twice on the wiki every time
2012-04-10 10124, 2012
18:37 PM
hawke_1
Anyone know enough about JIRA to say whether “create subtask” is what I want to do for this?
2012-04-10 10151, 2012
18:37 PM
reosarevok
I'd just add it to the ticket
2012-04-10 10159, 2012
18:37 PM
ianmcorvidae
that could work; reosarevok and nikki are the ones who decide how to use jira for style though :P
2012-04-10 10116, 2012
18:38 PM
reosarevok
Subtask is an option, but feels a bit overkill
2012-04-10 10132, 2012
18:38 PM
warp
hawke_1: yeah, found another possible issue.
2012-04-10 10138, 2012
18:38 PM
hawke_1
ianmcorvidae: I’m just wondering if subtasks do silly things like make it impossible to close the ticket until the subtask is done or such
2012-04-10 10146, 2012
18:38 PM
ianmcorvidae
unsure
2012-04-10 10107, 2012
18:39 PM
hawke_1
ianmcorvidae: Well, we’ll find out I guess
2012-04-10 10114, 2012
18:39 PM
warp
hawke_1: "Theatre Style overrides the generiic Soundtrack Style", but we have no soundtrack style.
2012-04-10 10111, 2012
18:40 PM
hawke_1
warp: Both fixed
2012-04-10 10124, 2012
18:40 PM
reosarevok
2012-04-10 10142, 2012
18:40 PM
warp
now, if my internet was working I could refresh the page.
2012-04-10 10142, 2012
18:42 PM
CallerNo6
"[Theatre] Track Artist Credits should be as listed on the release"... meaning on the back cover only?
2012-04-10 10124, 2012
18:43 PM
hawke_1
CallerNo6: meaning whereever the tracklisting appears on the release. :-)
2012-04-10 10139, 2012
18:43 PM
warp
hawke_1: ok, I haven't noticed anything else.
2012-04-10 10147, 2012
18:47 PM
hawke_1
warp: Great
2012-04-10 10157, 2012
18:48 PM
reosarevok mehs a bit
2012-04-10 10107, 2012
18:49 PM
reosarevok
hawke_1, the idea was *not* opening a new ticket :p
2012-04-10 10116, 2012
18:49 PM
reosarevok
Well, whatever. will do
2012-04-10 10130, 2012
18:49 PM
hawke_1
reosarevok: Apparently that’s what a subtask does. Oh well.
2012-04-10 10154, 2012
18:49 PM
reosarevok knows. That's why he said "I'd just add it to the ticket" :p
2012-04-10 10113, 2012
18:50 PM
reosarevok
Doesn't matter, I guess - let's keep it like that
2012-04-10 10127, 2012
18:50 PM
reosarevok goes back to his Old English exercises
2012-04-10 10148, 2012
18:56 PM
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18:58 PM
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2012-04-10 10126, 2012
19:00 PM
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2012-04-10 10141, 2012
19:14 PM
moufl
2012-04-10 10132, 2012
19:15 PM
moufl
that sucks
2012-04-10 10153, 2012
19:15 PM
moufl
I added some for multiple recordings and some are only for this one...
2012-04-10 10102, 2012
19:16 PM
moufl
they should be grouped no matter what
2012-04-10 10114, 2012
19:16 PM
reosarevok
Because they're added as different relationships
2012-04-10 10126, 2012
19:16 PM
reosarevok agrees that they should be displayed all together or all separate
2012-04-10 10141, 2012
19:16 PM
reosarevok
But I'm not sure if it's that easy with the current code
2012-04-10 10145, 2012
19:16 PM
reosarevok
nikki, is there a ticket?
2012-04-10 10139, 2012
19:19 PM
moufl
It's the first time I notice it
2012-04-10 10151, 2012
19:19 PM
moufl
maybe it didn't matter before when I added this kind of AR
2012-04-10 10101, 2012
19:20 PM
moufl
but I wonder how I should act now
2012-04-10 10113, 2012
19:20 PM
reosarevok
Well, it's all correctly credited
2012-04-10 10124, 2012
19:20 PM
reosarevok
It's just that the way we store - display this stuff kinda sucks
2012-04-10 10126, 2012
19:20 PM
moufl
my guess is they should be separated
2012-04-10 10156, 2012
19:20 PM
moufl
stored seperately, _maybe_ displayed grouped
2012-04-10 10101, 2012
19:21 PM
hawke_1
I’d rather have them stored separately, displayed together
2012-04-10 10109, 2012
19:21 PM
moufl
:P
2012-04-10 10123, 2012
19:21 PM
hawke_1
Started typing that before you sent your line. :-D
2012-04-10 10115, 2012
19:26 PM
moufl
2012-04-10 10109, 2012
19:30 PM
nikki
there is a ticket for storing them consistently
2012-04-10 10117, 2012
19:30 PM
SultS
2012-04-10 10105, 2012
19:31 PM
moufl
;)
2012-04-10 10153, 2012
19:38 PM
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2012-04-10 10120, 2012
19:47 PM
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2012-04-10 10122, 2012
20:11 PM
CatCat
wtf is this "brony" i keep seeing about
2012-04-10 10137, 2012
20:11 PM
SultS
I duddo…
2012-04-10 10143, 2012
20:11 PM
crism
2012-04-10 10107, 2012
20:13 PM
moufl
gay
2012-04-10 10119, 2012
20:13 PM
moufl
not that there's anything wrong with that
2012-04-10 10125, 2012
20:13 PM
crism
Some bronies are gay, probably. Most are straight, so far as I know.
2012-04-10 10133, 2012
20:13 PM
crism
(Not sure what that has to do with anything.)
2012-04-10 10103, 2012
20:14 PM
moufl
[Seinfeld reference]
2012-04-10 10110, 2012
20:15 PM
Leftmost
Probably best to avoid the joke if you think someone might not get it.
2012-04-10 10131, 2012
20:15 PM
moufl
yep :x
2012-04-10 10139, 2012
20:15 PM
CatCat didn't know "not that there's anything wrong with that" was supposed ot be a joke
2012-04-10 10113, 2012
20:16 PM
CatCat
hahahah "let me google that for you" doesn't work because i turned javascript off for google :P
2012-04-10 10149, 2012
20:16 PM
CatCat
wait what my little pony?
2012-04-10 10102, 2012
20:17 PM
CatCat
isn't that like ancient and 80 and stuff
2012-04-10 10107, 2012
20:17 PM
CatCat
they rem,ade..
2012-04-10 10108, 2012
20:17 PM
CatCat
ffs
2012-04-10 10109, 2012
20:17 PM
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2012-04-10 10115, 2012
20:17 PM
crism
CatCat: Yeah, I don’t claim to understand it; wouldn’t even know about it if not for Memebase.
2012-04-10 10132, 2012
20:17 PM
CatCat
always this with recyceling.. you're gonna see he-man aremade soon
2012-04-10 10134, 2012
20:17 PM
crism
Apparently it’s by the guys who did “Powerpuff Girls” and is pretty funny.
2012-04-10 10140, 2012
20:17 PM
CatCat
hmm
2012-04-10 10141, 2012
20:17 PM
crism
In any case, there are many, many rabid fans.
