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      • LordSputnik
        kepstin: almost 5 now :P
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      • LordSputnik
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      • LordSputnik
        it's one of the worst failures since CAA started
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      • LordSputnik
        YES! IT IS DONE. </jesus2009 moment> http://musicbrainz.org/release/75b34c4a-1e15-3bf5…
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      • Lotheric
        wow, you're a brave one
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      • kovacsur
        CAA appears to be back up, by the way
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      • Lotheric
        sweet
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      • Freso
        Quick! Let's bring it back down again!
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      • Freso
        Huh.
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      • Freso
        Looks like one of the times I tried to upload this image and it gave me an error the upload actually went through.
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      • Freso
        Curious.
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      • kovacsur
        do you mean the Juletoppen one?
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      • kovacsur
        (that was me)
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      • Freso
        Yes, I did mean that one.
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      • Freso
        Why'd you add that? :p
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      • kovacsur
        if yours is better, go ahead, I thought you were stuck with that suboptimal image
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      • LordSputnik
        well, whoever added the last successful one broke it :P
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      • Freso
        kovacsur: I was. Where did you find that one?
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      • kovacsur
        I think it came from the AMG image, by tweaking the size parameter in the URL
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      • Freso
        Oh.
      • 2012-11-18 32314, 2012

      • Freso
        ... yeah. I never looked at the AMG for some reason.
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      • kovacsur
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      • Freso
        Alright. And on that note, I'll bid you all natta.
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      • kovacsur
        and so do I
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      • Lotheric
        Question
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      • Lotheric
        If artist A perform as artist B and Artist A birthdate is known, do we have to edit Artist B with the same birthdate ? Or will it show once the edit to Artist A is accepted ?
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      • Lotheric
        seems redundant
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      • kepstin
        huh, caa is working again?
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      • kepstin
        guess I have stuff to upload :)
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      • kepstin-laptop
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      • kepstin-laptop
        first is canadian version, second is us version
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      • kepstin-laptop
        ignore the colour differences, that's just from the scanning process.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        most of the differences is just from changing the label and copyright information
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      • kepstin-laptop
        one curious bit, tho; the canadian version has photography credits on the last booklet page which aren't on the us version.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        (this is my fun example release where the cd tocs can tell between the two versions)
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      • yindesu
        Question about album art
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      • yindesu
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      • yindesu
        I've run into a half dozen more of these today, with 0 relationships yet showing album art
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      • _5moufl
        yindesu : I wonder if some of those aren't retrieved with the barcode
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      • yindesu
        That sounds like a bad idea, I thought the entire purpose of manually adding ASIN's is because we don't assume Amazon is always correct :P
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      • Freso
        Lotheric: You don't *have* to. But you should.
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      • Freso
        Lotheric: There's currently no automatic way to show start/end dates for performs-as relationships.
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      • Freso
        yindesu: I think we've been able to enter ASIN/Amazon UTL relationships for a good deal longer amount of time than we've been able to properly assign barcodes to releases.
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      • Freso
        *URL
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      • yindesu
        @Freso: so do you know where the album art is coming from? (is it fetched from Amazon by barcode despite no ASIN?)
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      • _5moufl
        there's a ticket about that iirc yindesu
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      • Freso
        yindesu: No clue. I just got up. Haven't launched my browser yet. :)
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      • _5moufl
        it is coming from amazon yindesu
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      • _5moufl
        check the image url ;)
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      • yindesu
        I know, but I was more curious what part of Musicbrainz is doing it.
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      • yindesu
        (that's what I meant by where is it coming from - I did of course view the image to see it wasn't coming from the cover art archive, too)
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      • Freso
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      • Freso
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      • yindesu
        That's not correct
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      • yindesu
        The Korean album art (the one I'm asking about) is not the same as any of the Japanese covers Amazon.co.jp has
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      • yindesu
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      • Freso
        yindesu: Note that those .jp ASINs were added more than 1½ year ago.
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      • yindesu
        all 3 have different album covers
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      • yindesu
        there are only 2 ASINs
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      • yindesu
        That's not where the album art is coming from
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      • Freso
        Amazon may have updated the cover art on its ASIN if they found out it was wrongly assigned.
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      • yindesu
        there are 3 different barcodes and only 2 ASINs in musicbrainz... do you see where I'm going with this?
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      • yindesu
        It's not possible...
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      • yindesu
        http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00377JT3C is what you're looking for
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      • Freso
        What's no possible?
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      • yindesu
        (and it's not imported from the US)
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      • Freso
        *not
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      • Freso
        Amazon updating the attached cover art?
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      • yindesu
        Amazon (read: Sony Music Entertainment Japan) would never have provided Amazon.co.jp with a scan of the front of the jewel case of an import. (the amazon image includes an Obi, versus a clean copy of the front cover)
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      • Freso shrugs
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      • yindesu
        the real question is why Amazon.co.jp is selling a Korean import in Japan (which is illegal)
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      • yindesu
        I'm guessing it won't ship to a Japanese address when you go checkout
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      • Freso
        I have an artist which should be split. Neither of the two endpoints currently exist. Would it be bad karma to create one of the two, rename the "artist-to-be-split" (without changing ACs), and then fix the AC?
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      • Krystof
        I have a Philips disc set of the Mozart Complete String Quintets, in Musicbrainz at http://musicbrainz.org/release/507b0e90-82f8-4c40…
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      • Krystof
        the data all looks most excellent in Musicbrainz, apart from the fact that my disc cover looks like http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-COMPLETE-PHILIPS-E… rather than the picture that is shown
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      • Krystof
        (each of the individual discs in my set has the same catalogue number as in that musicbrainz release page, etc)
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      • Krystof
        what do I do? Just add the UK ASIN? Something more complicated?
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      • reosarevok
        Krystof: they are different releases, since they have different barcodes it seems
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      • reosarevok
        ( 028947095026 vs. 028942251120 )
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      • reosarevok
        I suspect yours is the 1991 one though, and the linked Amazon is a later reissue
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      • reosarevok
        (it does say 2002 in Amazon, not that that's usually very trustworthy)
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      • CatCat
        [10:47] Freso I have an artist which should be split. Neither of the two endpoints currently exist. Would it be bad karma to create one of the two, rename the "artist-to-be-split" (without changing ACs), and then fix the AC?
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      • CatCat
        I'd never tried this, because i am afraid of bad karma (read no votes and angry letters)
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      • CatCat
        but it's exactly what I'd do
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      • Freso
        I'm not so scared about no votes and angry letters though.
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      • CatCat
        reosarevok: am i making things up or is it possible to edit a relationship between tracks and alter witch track
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      • reosarevok
        Well, it's not too great because that's saying the MBID which applied to artist X (the collab) now applies to artist Y
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        reosarevok: hmm
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      • reosarevok
        CatCat: think it should be possible, yes
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        oh*
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      • reosarevok
        Krystof: heh, yeah, the title of this says "Complete Mozart Edition" so clearly the one you have
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      • CatCat
        it'd be one of those brianfreud did
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: But Artist A does not current exist except as half of Artist X. Everything that currently points to Artist X should still point Artist A (and also to Artist B). Renaming/-purposing Artist X to Artist A would make all previous links still valid, as the system doesn't properly track artist splits.
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      • CatCat
        yes
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      • CatCat
        hi freso
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      • CatCat
        god morgen :P
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      • CatCat nettop våkne
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      • Freso has been up for a few.
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      • Freso
        (seconds, minutes, hours? days? months??)
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      • CatCat
        print freso uptime
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      • CatCat
        :D
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      • Freso
        :)
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      • Freso
        reosarevok: What should I do with https://beta.musicbrainz.org/artist/124cec07-44f1… ?
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      • Freso
        It refers to both a person and a group.
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      • Freso
        With ARs for both.
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      • Freso
        I'm guessing the releases are for the group.
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      • Freso
        The "start date" is for the person though.
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      • Freso
        (Even if it's about a month off. :))
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      • reosarevok
        Freso: cry
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      • reosarevok
        (and then probably do whatever, since it's a mess already)
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      • Freso
        ;)
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      • Freso
        Did anyone make a userscript yet to remove the link around entity names?
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      • reosarevok
        I didn't, since I use them
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      • reosarevok
        although sometimes it's annoying when you want to copy, yes
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      • Freso
        I find myself wanting to copy more often than using them.
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      • Freso
        For the link, I can use the "Overview" tab - or just copy from the address bar.
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      • CatCat
        this is true
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      • CatCat uses both
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      • CatCat
        i'm not sure what i'd prefer
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      • Freso considers making an RFC for adding http://www.bubblegumdancer.com/ as an "other database"... >_>
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      • CatCat
        but I do know i hate it whne people link to https mb instead of http mb
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      • CatCat finds it amusing that it's in scandinavia AND japan this is motly popular
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      • Freso
        :)