then yes, seriously. I've never seen in any booklet that a set of tracks was "published". Only that they were Licensed by(from) another company, or (P) to the other company.
nikki: publish is intellectual publication of works and or recording (shit I’m not soe sure now) wise while manufacture is just what factory did produce the plastic in your hands
2012-11-19 32451, 2012
nikki
jesus2099: when did I say they were the same?
2012-11-19 32421, 2012
jesus2099
you put those two words in the same sentence ;)
2012-11-19 32428, 2012
yindesu
jesus2099: You're still wrong on (P)
2012-11-19 32429, 2012
yindesu
"The P stands for phonogram"
2012-11-19 32432, 2012
nikki
luks: since adding publisher as a label type was your proposal, can I convince you to add it to the label/type wiki page?
I guess I could just have fixed the release first, but well, since I didn't realise and entered it, I'd like it to pass before I continue :)
2012-11-19 32443, 2012
nikki
sure, you only come and talk to us when you want something :P
2012-11-19 32407, 2012
reosarevok
:p
2012-11-19 32414, 2012
reosarevok
What am I, krazykiwi :D
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reosarevok: Hey hi Réo, I’ve read you said some people hide ratings and maybe it breaks MASS MERGE, I want to test this. How do they people hide ratings ? there is a userjs, I’m going lokking for it meanwhile…
I’ll remove the useless warning (it was for pre-NGS though)
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confused by wiki pages. i added a work, a folk song but maybe with a definite original author. i have a couple of recordings that vary the lyrics but keep the chorus and title. do these qualify as covers?
2012-11-19 32449, 2012
jesus2099
they should be later versions of work imo
2012-11-19 32402, 2012
jesus2099
new lyrics = new work (in MB)
2012-11-19 32435, 2012
function1
there are probably like 100
2012-11-19 32437, 2012
jesus2099
you can cite the different words in the disambiguation commment for instance
2012-11-19 32442, 2012
jesus2099
cool !
2012-11-19 32444, 2012
jesus2099
:/
2012-11-19 32408, 2012
jesus2099
it’s normal with folk songs to have so much varations though… so I don’t know what’s best indeed…
2012-11-19 32425, 2012
jesus2099
either a catch-all work or almost one work per performance… :/
2012-11-19 32437, 2012
jesus2099
folk songs is particular
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function1
yeah i feel strongly that this should be one work with some type of variation relationship
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function1
i'll do cover i guess
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function1
meh
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jesus2099
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nikki
function1: if new lyricists are credited, you'd need a new work
2012-11-19 32445, 2012
nikki
if not, you can probably get away with it
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jesus2099
said 100 new works
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jesus2099
but I would not feel confortable linking to same work while knowing different lyrics myself, I would create new work too (but 100 :/ I would drop it)
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nikki
I don't know how much the lyrics changed, so I can't say :)
2012-11-19 32445, 2012
jesus2099
function1: have you heard those 100 and wanted to edit those 100 ?
2012-11-19 32426, 2012
jesus2099
if you just work on a couple of… works, yes, create them, you can paste the lyrics in annotation and should distinct works in disambig comment (you can use lyrics here too)
2012-11-19 32437, 2012
function1
no that was an exaggeration. i know of two different versions, but they only keep the chorus. there are many recordings though
2012-11-19 32458, 2012
jesus2099
if the verses are different this is really new work imo
many recordings and you don’t personally know which rec is which work… that’s another later problem
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function1
shouldn't there be some relationship between all of them?
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jesus2099
work is the earliest version of <work
2012-11-19 32410, 2012
jesus2099
this relationship ↗
2012-11-19 32422, 2012
function1
which would be [traditional] author i guess
2012-11-19 32429, 2012
jesus2099
then recording is a recording of work A or B
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function1
yeah i think that makes sense
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function1
with B later than A
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jesus2099
well, yes :)
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jesus2099
if A is the earliest
2012-11-19 32454, 2012
function1
ok i shall make new works i think. i can't seem to find any 'traditional' lyrics though, which makes a tree-like relationship difficult atm, or ambiguous at least
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function1
so 'cover' generally means same lyrics?
2012-11-19 32444, 2012
function1
minor variations or translations
2012-11-19 32407, 2012
function1
ok thanks gtg
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reosarevok: Connection reset by beer
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jesus2099
burp! again?
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Freso
_5moufl: FYI, Music Kickup is using MusicBrainz when artists create new "acts" in their system, and if the name for their "act" already exists, they ask if they really want that name. :)
