Should I just commit the page with my best attempt and as for corrections, or is it important to get a clean history on the page?
2011-06-03 15440, 2011
cjk32
jesus2099: An RFC to add a "partial" attribute to the [recording] is a performance of [work] relationship.
2011-06-03 15425, 2011
nikki
normally you'd copy the page to proposal:some_relationship_type (although we don't have a page for the performance one yet, do we?) and then make your changes
2011-06-03 15428, 2011
jesus2099
oh ... it will complexify stuff only
2011-06-03 15436, 2011
nikki
I wouldn't worry too much about the page history
2011-06-03 15440, 2011
jesus2099
it’s most often partial anyway
2011-06-03 15405, 2011
jesus2099
or often longer also ... I xould avoid adding distinction
2011-06-03 15421, 2011
jesus2099
useless
2011-06-03 15423, 2011
jesus2099
;)
2011-06-03 15421, 2011
reosarevok
jesus2099: it is important for classical
2011-06-03 15435, 2011
jesus2099
ah, really ?
2011-06-03 15449, 2011
jesus2099
ok :)
2011-06-03 15454, 2011
reosarevok
And experimental and such
2011-06-03 15404, 2011
reosarevok
It's common to have a piece that's like 40 minutes long
2011-06-03 15405, 2011
jesus2099
but don’t count on someone like me using this funny stuff
2011-06-03 15414, 2011
reosarevok
But not performed in its entirety
2011-06-03 15424, 2011
jesus2099
because it would theorically apply when the stuff is shorter by 5 seconds also
2011-06-03 15444, 2011
nikki
that's what guidelines are for
2011-06-03 15446, 2011
reosarevok
jesus2099: it's mostly meant for what you would call an "excerpt"
2011-06-03 15450, 2011
jesus2099
and what to do when there is additional solos and the recording is LONGER than works héhé
2011-06-03 15430, 2011
reosarevok
(normally marked as "excerpt" or "fragment")
2011-06-03 15433, 2011
cjk32
nikki: I couldn't see a page for the performance relationship, but wasn't sure that I was looking in the correct place. So far, I've based it other RFCs, but I'm unsure about the correct class.
2011-06-03 15452, 2011
jesus2099
ok, let me go
2011-06-03 15412, 2011
nikki
hm. that's a good question
2011-06-03 15452, 2011
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2011-06-03 15407, 2011
nikki
cjk32: "Performance" I guess is the best one
2011-06-03 15451, 2011
hawke__
I question the usefulness of class, personally.
2011-06-03 15456, 2011
nikki too
2011-06-03 15401, 2011
hawke__
Given how disorganized that whole thing is
2011-06-03 15436, 2011
cjk32
nikki: Thanks. I'll commit what I've got, but I'm not at all confident with what I'm doing.
2011-06-03 15420, 2011
reosarevok
cjk32: you could always put a link here so we can look at it :)
question: there is a song that appears in a film. at the end title the artist of the song is credited with a pseudonym. the artist doesn't exist. in an interview the director of the film explains that he wrote it. it did not appear on any soundtrack. which name should I use for the artist?
2011-06-03 15448, 2011
Shisma
the real director name or the pseudonym?
2011-06-03 15411, 2011
kepstin-laptop
or maybe the real director name with the pseudonym as an artist credit?
2011-06-03 15419, 2011
hawke__
That’s what I would do
2011-06-03 15419, 2011
Shisma
okay
2011-06-03 15421, 2011
Shisma
never did this before
2011-06-03 15434, 2011
Shisma
can i do this in a artist->work relationship?
2011-06-03 15406, 2011
reosarevok
Actually, no
2011-06-03 15407, 2011
reosarevok
:(
2011-06-03 15411, 2011
kepstin-laptop
hmm. no, relationships can only use the artist's primary name right now.
2011-06-03 15420, 2011
kepstin-laptop
(this is annoying)
2011-06-03 15424, 2011
reosarevok
(very)
2011-06-03 15428, 2011
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2011-06-03 15400, 2011
Shisma
isn't there an artits -> is pseudonym of -> artist relationship?
2011-06-03 15438, 2011
reosarevok
Well, we have "performs as"
2011-06-03 15442, 2011
reosarevok
You could use that
2011-06-03 15413, 2011
Shisma
yeah, great
2011-06-03 15438, 2011
Shisma
oh, if there the song only appears in a movie, nor in the soundtrack. is it a record?
2011-06-03 15448, 2011
Shisma
or just a work?
2011-06-03 15445, 2011
kepstin-laptop
Shisma: you could add it as a standalone recording.
2011-06-03 15433, 2011
hawke__
I’d add it as a standalone recording, with an Artist Credit to the pseudonym
2011-06-03 15451, 2011
hawke__
Though…was it performed by the director as well?
2011-06-03 15455, 2011
hawke__
or did someone else perform it?
2011-06-03 15441, 2011
Shisma
unknown
2011-06-03 15419, 2011
Shisma
I'm not even sure if it was a joke in the interview that he wrote it
2011-06-03 15419, 2011
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2011-06-03 15430, 2011
hawke__
I would guess (without knowing more) that he wrote it but someone else performed it
2011-06-03 15423, 2011
hawke__
If it’s a single-instrument song and he knows the instrument in question, maybe he performed it too.
2011-06-03 15453, 2011
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2011-06-03 15433, 2011
Shisma
multiple instruments
2011-06-03 15441, 2011
Shisma
two at least
2011-06-03 15414, 2011
ddaydj
is there an issue with picard embedding art since the upgrade? can't get stable or beta to do it
2011-06-03 15433, 2011
reosarevok
ddaydj: you need a new version of the plugin or something
2011-06-03 15407, 2011
Shisma
is there more information stored in the tags since NGS?
2011-06-03 15428, 2011
CatCat
ocharles: re medium edit. can't you make one wich is sideways, and one the other ways, and then leave a option for people with large scrteens so they can utilise whitespace? :)
2011-06-03 15446, 2011
CatCat
atleast code it in such a way that it's possible ot make a script or
2011-06-03 15407, 2011
CatCat alos finds two tracklists and ixed up tracklists confusing :(
2011-06-03 15432, 2011
CatCat
[13:35] reosarevok If you put them side by side, it might work better
2011-06-03 15444, 2011
CatCat
[13:52] reosarevok Just show the titles in two lines and leave the same space on the right? <-- agrees with this too
