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      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm. what would a good name for a musicbrainz-integrated music playing application be?
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      • kepstin-laptop has to decide what to name his git repository so he can start working on it :)
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      • reosarevok
        Moose
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      • reosarevok
        :p
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      • reosarevok
        Oh, that's a PERL crap already
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      • kepstin-laptop
        ...
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      • reosarevok
        Damn you perl
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      • kepstin-laptop
        yeah, finding good names is hard.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        oh, that's why it's called 'picard': it's the 'next generation' tagging program.
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      • kepstin-laptop finally gets it.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        maybe I'll call my player 'Riker' because it's going to be the 'number one' player ;)
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      • pbryan
        kepstin-laptop: Whatcha working on?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        pbryan: the epic musicbrainz integrated player of doom.
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      • pbryan
        I'm intrigued. Please tell me more.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        first steps first, I'm picking a name so I can create my git repo ;)
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      • reosarevok
        EMIPD
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      • pbryan
        Language?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        pbryan: only restriction is that I'd like it to be in ascii letters, and 7 characters or shorter.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        oh, you mean of the program? almost certainly C with a Gtk+ gui
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      • pbryan
        Ah, okay.
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      • pbryan
        Using Gstreamer?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        that was the plan, yeah.
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      • pbryan
        Cool.
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      • pbryan
        It could be epic.
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      • kepstin-laptop
        the plan is that as it imports music, it'll download info from musicbrainz api and cache it in a local sqlite database
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      • reosarevok
        Can't you call it EPMD? Epic Player of Musicbrainz Doom?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        allowing you to do fun things like select songs by drummer.
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      • ocharles
        :P
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      • reosarevok
        ocharles, it was an angry PERL
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      • kepstin-laptop
        heh
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      • ocharles
        kepstin-laptop: aw, not C
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      • kepstin-laptop
        ocharles: what do you have against C?
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      • pbryan
        You would have had me at Python.
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      • ocharles
        i make too many mistakes in it :)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I might actually use Vala, which is just C in disguse.
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      • ocharles
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I'll try to add support for python extensions, if you really want :)
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      • pbryan
        :-)
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      • ocharles
        no, i'd want haskell extensions :P
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      • kepstin-laptop
        that's harder :/
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      • ocharles
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      • CatCat doesn't *know* anyone who listens metal either
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      • CatCat
        exewpt online of wich most are gits
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      • CatCat
        :(
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      • CatCat
        ones get into arguments of the "x is better than y u suck" variety
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      • CatCat
        laaaame
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      • CatCat
        i listen to testament, baccara, koji kondo, deep purple, lemon jelly
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      • CatCat
        what of it? ;)
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      • CatCat
        Now grooving to: Charlie Feathers ~ That Certain Female (3:02) (from Kill Bill, Vol. 1) (1974)
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      • CallerNo6
        kepstin-laptop: locutus?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        https://github.com/kepstin/epmd - off to a good start ;)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        I can always rename it later :) Time to get started; I'll probably be working on the music library scanning and musicbrainz info caching code first.
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      • kepstin-laptop installs libmusicbrainz-4
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      • jesus2099
        I do listen to metal and especially power metal, why not power metal, reosarevok ? (more than what age you said)
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      • ocharles
        nice name kepstin-laptop :P
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      • reosarevok has just seen less older people listening to power metal than other styles
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      • jesus2099
        ah… stragne
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      • jesus2099
        power metal is quite 80s sounding so I guess mostly older people listen to it than those crazy styles they do now
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      • jesus2099
        power metal is nostalgic
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      • reosarevok lets people know that we have some new documentation in the page: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/How_to_Merge_Releaseshttp://wiki.musicbrainz.org/How_to_Split_Artists http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/How_to_Write_Edit_Notes
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      • reosarevok
        FUUU
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      • kepstin-laptop
        you missed a space
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        That
      • 2011-09-29 27258, 2011

      • reosarevok
        In case someone wants to review them and suggest changes
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      • reosarevok
        More to follow in the next few days
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      • hawke_
        Why do people use “transparent” metaphorically to refer to the situation where you can see it? Transparent stuff is relatively hard to see. :-(
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      • kepstin-laptop
        hawke_: 'transparent' refers to being able to see into the inner workings of something.
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      • CallerNo6
        Metal saved hip hop (walk this way / run dmc)
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      • jesus2099
        you can see through
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      • CallerNo6
        Metal saved jazz (zappa, electric Miles)
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      • kepstin-laptop
        think of a watch with a transparent case - you can see gears ticking and understand how it works
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      • CallerNo6
        Metal just can't seem to save itself...
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      • hawke_
        kepstin-laptop: Yeah, but the mechanism isn’t transparent.
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      • ocharles
        CallerNo6: but walk this way is terrible :|
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      • kepstin-laptop
        hawke_: nope. the casing is transparent.
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      • jesus2099
        CallerNo6: do you know the Tenacious-D song “THE METAL” ?
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      • hawke_
        Just seems like a poor metaphor to me. :-)
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      • CallerNo6
        ocharles: indeed. But when it came out, people payed attention
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      • ocharles
        reosarevok: great work!
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      • ocharles
        Wiki needs a new theme imo
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      • kepstin-laptop
        (if something is described as 'opaque' that means that you can't understand how it works, because all the moving parts are hidden)
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      • ocharles
        maybe that's just because I have an obscenely wide monitor
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      • ocharles
        almost 2000 glorious pixels in width
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      • jesus2099
        no one can defeat the metal
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      • CallerNo6
        jesus2099: no, should I?
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      • kepstin-laptop
        aww, the musicbrainz.org main stylesheet got renamed, so now http://people.scs.carleton.ca/~cwalton3/temp/mbmo… broke :/
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      • kepstin-laptop goes and updates that.
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      • jesus2099
        CallerNo6: I don’t have access to youtube so I don’t know if it’s complete veido but here it is (nice and funny) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBtjSHm3ZH0
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      • jesus2099
        related to what you said
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      • CallerNo6
        jesus2099: found it...
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      • warp
        ocharles: haha
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      • reosarevok
        Hi HumHumXX!
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      • reosarevok
        Do you as a power-merger have an opinion on how to make http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/How_to_Merge_Releases better? :)
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      • HumHumXX
        I'll take a look
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      • ruaok
        have things been behaving?
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      • ruaok
        any 500s or 502s?
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      • pbryan
        So far, yes!
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      • pbryan
        Yes == behaving.
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      • ocharles
        ruaok: there was one report at 4am
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      • ocharles
        but other than that, I haven't heard anything
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      • ruaok
        what was the trouble?
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      • ocharles
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      • ocharles
        but as it says "same kind of problem" it might not be the same problem
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      • ruaok
        hmmm.
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      • ruaok
        when we kill a process, do we have any control over what error code we return?
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      • ruaok
        after a 30 second timeout that is...
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      • ruaok
        if so, we should return a specific error code so we can tell when something times out as opposed to a garden variety 502
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      • ruaok
        just a thought. gotta run for a sec. bbiab
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      • CatCat
        erflies%22&type=recording&advanced=1 :(((
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      • CatCat
        i get 500 read time out :(
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      • CallerNo6 revisits the golden age of wiki... http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Completist
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      • CallerNo6
        "From it's very inception, MusicBrainz demonstrated its interest in helping completists making themselves useful for something."
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      • pbryan
        CallerNo6: Wow, that is sooo relevant.
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      • CallerNo6
        pbryan: your sarcasm (if any) is no match for my autism :P
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      • pbryan
        Zero sarcasm. I find myself under all of the categories!
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      • reosarevok
        CallerNo6, pbryan or anyone
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      • reosarevok
        If you want to make a nice page that links to all these pages, let me know
      • 2011-09-29 27227, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I want to take them to userspaces
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      • reosarevok
        But I can keep a page in the normal wiki space with links to them
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      • reosarevok
        "all these" being "funny but not documentation"
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      • CallerNo6
        which? category:philosophy ?
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      • reosarevok
        Well, that can do
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      • reosarevok was thinking of "Ramblings" but maybe that is nicer :p
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      • CallerNo6
        well, I think there should probably be a serious category for "philosophy" or "principles" or something.
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      • CallerNo6
        and then something for "humor"... "rambling" works for me
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      • CallerNo6
        also, as an aspiring descriptivist, I'll write something up for http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Moderator_Language/Eb…
      • 2011-09-29 27242, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        (some day)
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      • ruaok joined the channel
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      • reosarevok hates the Official / Promo divide with a passion
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      • ruaok
        haters are gonna hate
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      • ruaok
        its on freed indexes right now
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      • ruaok
        freedb
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      • CallerNo6
        why not a harder/faster rule? like a promo is something that says, "not for sale: for promotional use only" or similar