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      • Lotheric
        I think I'll do that jesus2099
      • 2011-09-05 24847, 2011

      • Lotheric
        otherwise it'll get confusing
      • 2011-09-05 24816, 2011

      • jesus2099
        yes do taht, especially if you don’t have the releases… one day a prince will come with the releases in hands and things *may* be more precise ;)
      • 2011-09-05 24838, 2011

      • Lotheric
        lol
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      • CallerNo6
        jesus2099: If you have the CD in hand, of course I believe you, but why does discogs list it as 13 a/b/c? Is that just discogs being weird?
      • 2011-09-05 24813, 2011

      • jesus2099
        they mistook by copying something that can be found in many places online, that’s the common mistake when the people don’t habve stuff in hands… I do indeed and it’s 14 tracks this bar code at least… there might be existing 13 tracks but NOT this barcode and catalogue :)
      • 2011-09-05 24810, 2011

      • jesus2099
        there is another 13 track release on MB without any other info… this is the placeholder if anyone comes across a 13 track version someday
      • 2011-09-05 24831, 2011

      • jesus2099
        but what I’m doing is just fixing the one that matches my release event :)
      • 2011-09-05 24809, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        yeah, I saw that the discids you were removing were also attached to that other 13 track version.
      • 2011-09-05 24838, 2011

      • derwin
        rutracker
      • 2011-09-05 24853, 2011

      • derwin
        (otherwise known as the most comprehensive music tracker on the internet)
      • 2011-09-05 24817, 2011

      • murdos
        ah... better than what?
      • 2011-09-05 24822, 2011

      • derwin
        what.cd
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      • derwin
        well.. it depends on what you mean
      • 2011-09-05 24836, 2011

      • derwin
        by better than what.cd
      • 2011-09-05 24839, 2011

      • murdos
        yes
      • 2011-09-05 24840, 2011

      • derwin
        what.cd has broken economics
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      • nikki
        MBChatLogger: off
      • 2011-09-05 24842, 2011

      • MBChatLogger
        is not logging
      • 2011-09-05 24850, 2011

      • MBChatLogger
        is logging
      • 2011-09-05 24803, 2011

      • murdos
        jesus2099: will you stop spamming with your edits? :P
      • 2011-09-05 24839, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Argh
      • 2011-09-05 24849, 2011

      • jesus2099
        murdos: it’s only an edit out of millions… and iot’s blocking my disc I have to return it
      • 2011-09-05 24852, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Someone entered Shostakovich preludes, Op. 34 as Op. 31
      • 2011-09-05 24807, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Talk about 24 innecessary edits :(
      • 2011-09-05 24811, 2011

      • jesus2099
        MY DISC IN HANDS BABY !
      • 2011-09-05 24835, 2011

      • jesus2099
        murdos: hope you’ll fix those saccaged recordings of Amélie-les-crayons sometimes ;p
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      • derwin
        jesus2099: yeah, voted
      • 2011-09-05 24848, 2011

      • derwin
        jesus2099: I am not a 10000% certain of the rules, but that looks prima facie sane to me
      • 2011-09-05 24859, 2011

      • jesus2099
        derwin CallerNo6 and dubwai you’re so cool guys !
      • 2011-09-05 24814, 2011

      • murdos
        jesus2099: re Amélie-les-crayons, yes it's my intent
      • 2011-09-05 24856, 2011

      • jesus2099
        cool man, I’m relieved to hear you’ll put those arrange AR at right place (recordings) ;p
      • 2011-09-05 24830, 2011

      • jesus2099
        derwin: what’s prima facies ?
      • 2011-09-05 24851, 2011

      • jesus2099
        murdos: you’re so cool too by the way ;)
      • 2011-09-05 24820, 2011

      • Lotheric
        hey guys, what do you recommend for a IRC client ? (under windows), I'm using HydraIRC right now and it seems to have problems with unicode, it's annoying
      • 2011-09-05 24845, 2011

      • murdos
        jesus2099: I'm glad one Yes vote can make your forget a lot of No ones :D
      • 2011-09-05 24805, 2011

      • jesus2099
        murdos: as you’re here, I’m sure http://musicbrainz.org/edit/15148238 is quite wrong for french, maybe you can fix it so I cancel my edit…
      • 2011-09-05 24815, 2011

      • jesus2099
        murdos: it’s because I’m also so cool guy myself
      • 2011-09-05 24823, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        are URLs in artist comments discouraged?
      • 2011-09-05 24835, 2011

      • luks
        yes
      • 2011-09-05 24817, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        thanks
      • 2011-09-05 24811, 2011

      • derwin
        13:23 < jesus2099> derwin: what’s prima facies ?
      • 2011-09-05 24817, 2011

      • derwin
        prima facie = on its face
      • 2011-09-05 24818, 2011

      • derwin
        jesus2099: iow, I am not an expert myself, but you make a plausible-on-its-face case
      • 2011-09-05 24830, 2011

      • jesus2099
        like « TAKE THIS FLYINGKICK IN YER FACE DUDE !  » ?
      • 2011-09-05 24838, 2011

      • jesus2099
        derwin: ↗ ;)
      • 2011-09-05 24802, 2011

      • jesus2099
        thanks btw it’s now applied I’m adding the rightful TOC and bye bye for today probably ! ;à
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      • CallerNo6
        I hope the rest of you don't waste as much time on a single edit as I do...
      • 2011-09-05 24858, 2011

      • reosarevok
        CallerNo6, depends on what you call a single edit :p
      • 2011-09-05 24845, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        true, an artist merge isn't quite as /singular/ as fixing a typo
      • 2011-09-05 24824, 2011

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      • reosarevok
        If adding a release is a single edit, I've spent LOTS of time there :p
      • 2011-09-05 24807, 2011

      • dubwai
        any solution to get xml or whatever with new edits?
      • 2011-09-05 24816, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Although now I guess that's 3 :p
      • 2011-09-05 24810, 2011

      • warp
        dubwai: you mean some kind of API for the edit system?
      • 2011-09-05 24807, 2011

      • kepstin
        sounds like he wants an api for subscriptions, really.
      • 2011-09-05 24807, 2011

      • dubwai
        warp: hmm i mean that edit release, and whant to get release data with this edits
      • 2011-09-05 24840, 2011

      • dubwai
        for example i edit tracklist and whant to get this tracklist without waitin 14 days or 3 approves
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      • reosarevok
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      • warp
        dubwai: ah, no, there is no way to get the API to give you data with pending edits applied to it.
      • 2011-09-05 24845, 2011

      • dubwai
        :-(
      • 2011-09-05 24808, 2011

      • warp
        dubwai: there are also currently no plans to implement that, but if you have a good use-case in mind perhaps you can convince us otherwise :)
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      • dubwai
        warp: i don't think so that my arguments wil convince you. My situation is i download from what.cd release to seedbox, then i found artwork and get edits at MusicBrainz. Then jesus2099 may be edit his plain text userscript to something like this. And I can get all correct data for RuTracker forum in one click and then when I already download my release from seedbox through RuTracker.org I...
      • 2011-09-05 24856, 2011

      • dubwai
        ...can get good MB data with my edits, and don't wait 2 week when it approved.
      • 2011-09-05 24822, 2011

      • dubwai
        something like this is http://i.imgur.com/ciF8L.jpg
      • 2011-09-05 24857, 2011

      • nikki
        warp: well, it is an often requested feature for picard at least
      • 2011-09-05 24829, 2011

      • nikki
        it's frustrating for people who come here via tagging music only to find that they even if they contribute changes, they can't *use* that data
      • 2011-09-05 24842, 2011

      • nikki
        (sure, they can in 2 weeks, but people are impatient and just give up)
      • 2011-09-05 24812, 2011

      • dubwai
        I thing to have opportunity of this function is good idea, but not default of course
      • 2011-09-05 24834, 2011

      • nikki
        yeah, I was pondering how some pending=yes or something parameter might work
      • 2011-09-05 24811, 2011

      • dubwai
        or maybe for picard is good when found release right click on at and have option (get data with last changes)
      • 2011-09-05 24855, 2011

      • dubwai
        because of course for all releases this not good idea, but for release that you edit 5 min ago it's must have :-)
      • 2011-09-05 24835, 2011

      • nikki
        it'd be nice if picard could somehow show that releases have edits pending
      • 2011-09-05 24843, 2011

      • nikki
        then maybe some more people tagging might go vote on them
      • 2011-09-05 24819, 2011

      • nikki
        but at the same time, if they can just fetch the data with edits applied, there's less incentive to vote on them 'cause they can use the data already
      • 2011-09-05 24839, 2011

      • warp
        nikki: right, in that case we should open a jira ticket and let people vote on it :)
      • 2011-09-05 24840, 2011

      • dubwai
        nikki: for example my 95% of edits is reggae, and only on 5% people votes
      • 2011-09-05 24806, 2011

      • nikki cackles evilly
      • 2011-09-05 24818, 2011

      • nikki
        let picard get pending edits, but only if you've voted on them >D
      • 2011-09-05 24824, 2011

      • warp
        haha
      • 2011-09-05 24803, 2011

      • nikki
        then it could maybe even be some sort of default. if you've voted yes on it, you presumably think it's better than the existing data
      • 2011-09-05 24814, 2011

      • dubwai
        i can't vote on my edits? :-)
      • 2011-09-05 24837, 2011

      • nikki
        it'd include your own too. why would you enter edits you think make the data worse? :P
      • 2011-09-05 24823, 2011

      • dubwai evil man
      • 2011-09-05 24800, 2011

      • dubwai know that people don't vote on reggae release and worse data
      • 2011-09-05 24813, 2011

      • warp
        nikki: some general notification in picard (this release has pending edits, please vote on them!) sounds like a really good idea.
      • 2011-09-05 24843, 2011

      • nikki
        for a random evil idea, I really quite like the idea of having picard say somehow that a release has pending edits and then letting picard fetch pending edits if you've voted on them :P
      • 2011-09-05 24815, 2011

      • warp
        yes. I am not opposed to that idea.
      • 2011-09-05 24848, 2011

      • warp
        (in most cases the pending edits will be those of the person using picard, so most users will not encounter that scenario often)
      • 2011-09-05 24810, 2011

      • dubwai
        may be if you chose pending edits than picard will open browser with page when you can vote for edits?
      • 2011-09-05 24816, 2011

      • nikki
        I suppose it depends what areas you edit
      • 2011-09-05 24829, 2011

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      • dubwai
        anyone know tool to parse xml to get plain text something like that http://i.imgur.com/ciF8L.jpg because it's only mockup for usersript witch i can't write. But may be any magical tool save me now?
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      • dubwai try to study XSLT
      • 2011-09-05 24824, 2011

      • luks
        don't, it will hurt your brain :)
      • 2011-09-05 24836, 2011

      • warp
        XSLT is not _that_ bad
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      • dubwai
        luks: why? it's fucking easy :-)
      • 2011-09-05 24832, 2011

      • luks
        oh, ok then :)
      • 2011-09-05 24802, 2011

      • dubwai
        luks: it's sarcasm? i not programmer and may be say wrong words
      • 2011-09-05 24839, 2011

      • nikki wonders if dubwai was asking if luks was being sarcastic or saying that he was being sarcastic
      • 2011-09-05 24834, 2011

      • dubwai dubwai only wants to get data from xml and paste it with his template to torrent forum in one click :-) and already get some results
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      • CallerNo6
        I love it when I email an artist with a question and he/she takes the time to respond.
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      • reosarevok
        If there's any Russian speaker here, feel like finding me some info about a certain ALEXEY KOVALEV, Soviet conductor? :)
      • 2011-09-05 24800, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        finally, something that we can all agree on...
      • 2011-09-05 24803, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        ...http://killingclassicalmusic.com/
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      • reosarevok spies flamingspinach in #imslpchat
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      • reosarevok
        Is there anything interesting happening there usually?
      • 2011-09-05 24800, 2011

      • reosarevok
        CallerNo6, is this blog usually interesting?
      • 2011-09-05 24800, 2011

      • reosarevok wouldn't mind a less dry approach to classical stuff than just trying random things that I happen to edit
      • 2011-09-05 24822, 2011

      • CallerNo6
        reosarevok: I dunno. I just stumbled upon it, and thought the mission statement could be read several ways
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      • CallerNo6
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      • nikki
        meh
      • 2011-09-05 24824, 2011

      • nikki
        adding releases is so much work now :(
      • 2011-09-05 24855, 2011

      • nikki
        even using existing tracklists from freedb is a complete pita because I don't know which version I'm adding
      • 2011-09-05 24832, 2011

      • nikki
        'cause the different versions have different tracklists... but I can't see the tracklist until I'm done editing the first page ¬_¬
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      • CallerNo6
        is a new track parser in the works?
      • 2011-09-05 24852, 2011

      • nikki
        or I skip the first page and have to go back to it, which just slows the whole fucking thing down even more
      • 2011-09-05 24819, 2011

      • nikki
        not that I know of
      • 2011-09-05 24822, 2011

      • nikki
        all I wanted to do was add or fix three singles, which have 2 or 3 editions and it's taken hours
      • 2011-09-05 24811, 2011

      • CallerNo6 hasn't even done enough editing on the new system to commiserate :-{
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