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      • Snartal
        Got my second edit up, if anybody wishes to give me feedback on it, much appreciated ---- http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=14364913
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      • Snartal
        I'm a bit lost on the next edit I wish to do, anybody want to show a newbie the ropes?
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      • reosarevok
        Snartal: correct. Approved
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      • Snartal
        Cool, thanks, are they nice and clear to ya reosarevok?
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      • reosarevok
        This one was, although it might have been easier to find "Hold on Loosely" by 38 Special and show it was not a rap song ;)
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      • reosarevok
        What's the next edit?
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      • Snartal
        Well, though of that..... but wanted to make sure they didn't rap it.
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      • Snartal
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      • Snartal
        That one there....... it shows under the 38 special gangsta rap
      • 2011-04-22 11246, 2011

      • Snartal
        But when I click on the single artist album best shots.....
      • 2011-04-22 11218, 2011

      • Snartal
        It shows 38 special rock band on the release line..... I'm a bit confused.
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      • reosarevok
        Oh
      • 2011-04-22 11223, 2011

      • Snartal
        I'm not sure where to correct it
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      • reosarevok
        That means somebody moved the release
      • 2011-04-22 11232, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But forgot to move the release group
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      • reosarevok
        :)
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      • reosarevok
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      • Snartal
        ok, so do I do a merge here?
      • 2011-04-22 11259, 2011

      • Snartal
        or a move?
      • 2011-04-22 11205, 2011

      • Snartal
        Bit confused on that part
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      • reosarevok
        Move
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      • reosarevok
        Well
      • 2011-04-22 11242, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Unless there's a Best Shots group in the page for the band
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      • Snartal
        There is
      • 2011-04-22 11239, 2011

      • Snartal
        Different release dates though
      • 2011-04-22 11254, 2011

      • Snartal
        And no PUIDs
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      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • 2011-04-22 11203, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Let me check
      • 2011-04-22 11208, 2011

      • reosarevok
        One moment
      • 2011-04-22 11238, 2011

      • Snartal
        Yea, this is a bit confusing, as one is marked "Album"...... probably improper. One marked "compliation"
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      • reosarevok
        Aha
      • 2011-04-22 11250, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Yeah
      • 2011-04-22 11255, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Should be Compilation
      • 2011-04-22 11259, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I think
      • 2011-04-22 11206, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Ok, part one is easy
      • 2011-04-22 11211, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Go to both releases
      • 2011-04-22 11214, 2011

      • reosarevok
        And press Merge
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      • Snartal
        goto, as in have them both up i different tabs in IE?
      • 2011-04-22 11250, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Or go to one first and to another later
      • 2011-04-22 11259, 2011

      • reosarevok
        You'll just have to press merge on both
      • 2011-04-22 11206, 2011

      • reosarevok
      • 2011-04-22 11210, 2011

      • reosarevok
        For easy reaching
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      • reosarevok
        Once you're in a merge page with the two releases on it, you'll see lots of options: press "single artist"
      • 2011-04-22 11241, 2011

      • reosarevok
        And let me know :)
      • 2011-04-22 11243, 2011

      • Snartal
        hmmm, I didn't get all that. I just got a page that says "Merge Into"
      • 2011-04-22 11252, 2011

      • Snartal
        And I can pick one or the other.
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      • Snartal
        Should I go with that?
      • 2011-04-22 11252, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • 2011-04-22 11202, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Did you press merge on the release, or the artist?
      • 2011-04-22 11222, 2011

      • Snartal
        It says "Merge Release Groups"
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      • Snartal
        You are about to merge the following release groups into one release group. Please review the Release Groups guidelines to ensure that you're merging release groups properly.
      • 2011-04-22 11247, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Oooh, ok
      • 2011-04-22 11248, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Yeah
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      • reosarevok
        But we want to merge the actual releases :)
      • 2011-04-22 11259, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Because they're a duplicate
      • 2011-04-22 11231, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (normally, they wouldn't be and we could just merge the groups, but this time, they are)
      • 2011-04-22 11210, 2011

      • Snartal
        ok
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      • Snartal
        Done
      • 2011-04-22 11226, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • 2011-04-22 11237, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Have you pressed "single artist?
      • 2011-04-22 11252, 2011

      • Snartal
        I didn't have to, it didn't ask
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      • Snartal
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      • reosarevok
        Ok, yeah
      • 2011-04-22 11226, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Those are the release groups
      • 2011-04-22 11238, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Well, it's good for you to learn to merge those anyway
      • 2011-04-22 11258, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But now we want to merge the two albums (which are actually one)
      • 2011-04-22 11205, 2011

      • Snartal
        Gotta learn sometime, might as well be now! Remembering it will be hard part - lol
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      • reosarevok
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      • Snartal
        ok, but don't we need the first merge approved?
      • 2011-04-22 11233, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Nah
      • 2011-04-22 11239, 2011

      • reosarevok
        They're different things
      • 2011-04-22 11255, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Go into those
      • 2011-04-22 11258, 2011

      • reosarevok
        And press merge
      • 2011-04-22 11210, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (the one which is in the release area, close to the cover art)
      • 2011-04-22 11218, 2011

      • Snartal
        ok, I have no idea how I selected the two releases, but they are there, and I clicked single artist
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      • reosarevok
        Ok
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      • reosarevok
        Now
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      • reosarevok
        Scroll to the end of the page
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      • reosarevok
        And see which release is on top
      • 2011-04-22 11219, 2011

      • Snartal
        The compliation one
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      • reosarevok
        Nice
      • 2011-04-22 11207, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Then
      • 2011-04-22 11212, 2011

      • reosarevok
        You should select
      • 2011-04-22 11237, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Keep release attributes of the target release. (target release is the top one, and you want to keep it a compilation)
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      • Snartal
        k
      • 2011-04-22 11259, 2011

      • reosarevok
        It doesn't matter for "Language/Script" because both are "English, Latin"
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      • reosarevok
        And usually you *would* say "merge release groups"
      • 2011-04-22 11221, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But you're merging them already
      • 2011-04-22 11229, 2011

      • reosarevok
        So choose " Don't merge release groups."
      • 2011-04-22 11218, 2011

      • Snartal
        ok, so even though the PUIDs are in the bottom one, they will merge into the top one?
      • 2011-04-22 11221, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Yes
      • 2011-04-22 11236, 2011

      • Snartal
        ok, so click merge?
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      • reosarevok
        Yes, but leave an edit note saying they're duplicates just in case :)
      • 2011-04-22 11231, 2011

      • Snartal
        ok, done
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      • Snartal
        ok, I'm getting it now....... first one was merge the album (release), second one was merge the release group.
      • 2011-04-22 11213, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Well, this one was to merge the release, actually
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      • Snartal
        ok.
      • 2011-04-22 11239, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But yeah
      • 2011-04-22 11246, 2011

      • reosarevok
        If you merge the releases
      • 2011-04-22 11255, 2011

      • reosarevok
        You don't have to merge the groups before, because as you've seen
      • 2011-04-22 11205, 2011

      • reosarevok
        You can just tell MusicBrainz to merge them at the same time
      • 2011-04-22 11229, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (it will still be two edits, though… both are done together, but one can be accepted and the other rejected)
      • 2011-04-22 11230, 2011

      • Snartal
        got it. Well heck, I need 11 edits anyway - lol
      • 2011-04-22 11252, 2011

      • Snartal
        So the reason it was coming up with the correct artist was this..... I was looking at a release group, which had the gangsta rap 38 special assigned to it. within that release group, there was a release, which had the classic rock 38 special assigned to it.
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      • Snartal
        So, artists for release groups and releases themselves are separately assigned?
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      • reosarevok
        Yes
      • 2011-04-22 11226, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Well, *normally* they're not
      • 2011-04-22 11230, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But they can be
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      • reosarevok
        Which I mean is: 99,99% of the times they're the same, but yeah, they are separate fields
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      • Snartal
        Yea, seems a bit strange to have an artist for the release and the release group, but I'm sure there is a reason for that.
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      • reosarevok
        Yes
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      • reosarevok
        For example
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      • reosarevok
        You can have a 2xCD
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      • reosarevok
        Disc 1 is by band A, disc 2 by band B
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      • reosarevok
        But they're sold together
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      • reosarevok
        That would have band A as release artist for disc 1, band B for disc 2, and probably Various Artists for the release group
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      • Snartal
        ok.
      • 2011-04-22 11247, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (Not that common, but I've entered some of those myself)
      • 2011-04-22 11228, 2011

      • Snartal
        Well, good thing I'm picking easy ones for my first edits! lol
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      • reosarevok
        It can also happen that the artist for the release is different than the artists for the tracks
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      • reosarevok
        (I think that happens only in releases with tracks by various artists, but I might be forgetting some situation)
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      • reosarevok
        For example, a DJ-Mix CD tends to have the DJ as the release artist, and then the specific artist assigned to each track
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      • reosarevok
        You'll get the hang of it
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      • reosarevok
        But don't learn *too much*, because the new musicbrainz is coming in one month ;)
      • 2011-04-22 11259, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Well, I think it's a good moment for an European like me to go to bed :)
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      • reosarevok
        (4:25 AM here)
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      • ruaok
        nn
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      • reosarevok
        Good night, oh Benevolent Dictator (and everyone else)!
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      • Snartal
        thanks for you help reosarevok!
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      • Snartal
        ok, as I'm a gutton for punishment, anybody around for advice on my next edit?
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      • Snartal
        nikki, you here?
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      • Nerd42
        Hey musicbrainz picard on windows XP is using underscores in place of quotation marks in some of my file names
      • 2011-04-22 11222, 2011

      • Nerd42
        Can I get it to ditch the underscores?