Mxx: the recording examples are kinda crappy, as there is discussion of remixes being different works instead (I'm not sure if an agreement was reached already)
2011-03-23 08258, 2011
reosarevok
heh
2011-03-23 08202, 2011
reosarevok
Don't lose your work!
2011-03-23 08204, 2011
reosarevok
:)
2011-03-23 08232, 2011
Mxx
i won't. boss doesn't mind
2011-03-23 08222, 2011
Mxx
just feels wrong when all the other peons have to be in the office by 9 but i come in 'whenever' :p
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jonsen
oh i know that :)
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caller_6 is re-reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_umlaut
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nikki
öḧ ÿëäḧ?
2011-03-23 08214, 2011
caller_6
It's like "Sound of Music"... it should be a once-a-year treat
2011-03-23 08224, 2011
Tecfan
ïnẗërësẗïng rëäd
2011-03-23 08231, 2011
nikki
bah. the one below the letter isn't on this keyboard
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Tecfan
here's a fix
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Tecfan
o
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Tecfan
�
2011-03-23 08231, 2011
nikki
meh :P
2011-03-23 08208, 2011
caller_6
nikki: ocharles says that Artist Credits don't have sortnames. For individual "name variants" that makes sense. The Artist's main sortname should work.
2011-03-23 08256, 2011
caller_6
but what about collaborations? How will those be sorted?
2011-03-23 08217, 2011
nikki
artist a's sortname joinphrase artist b's sortname?
2011-03-23 08202, 2011
caller_6
automatically generated?
2011-03-23 08246, 2011
nikki
I don't think we do it right now, but in theory we could (and so could picard)
2011-03-23 08207, 2011
caller_6
I suppose taking it from artist "a" is better than nothing.
2011-03-23 08219, 2011
caller_6
thanks
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hawke__
nikki: Is there even a sensible way to handle collaboration sortnames?
2011-03-23 08234, 2011
nikki
probably not :P
2011-03-23 08240, 2011
hawke__
nikki: I’m honestly not sure that there’s much use to sortnames at all, really.
2011-03-23 08259, 2011
nikki hates sortnames as they're currently implemented
2011-03-23 08201, 2011
hawke__
Other than making things look somewhat prettier when presenting a list, I guess.
2011-03-23 08216, 2011
hawke__
Hasn’t searching more-or-less obsoleted the sortname?
2011-03-23 08229, 2011
nikki
no, I like being able to find things in my music player too
2011-03-23 08252, 2011
nikki
they would be really useful for chinese and japanese, but for japanese at least, everything's just sorted even more strangely than before
2011-03-23 08208, 2011
hawke__
Don’t most music players allow searching within the playlist or library or what-have-you?
2011-03-23 08226, 2011
nikki
assuming you remember exactly which characters the artist uses, and can type them
2011-03-23 08214, 2011
hawke__
Ah, for Japanese true.
2011-03-23 08219, 2011
nikki
and not all players...
2011-03-23 08232, 2011
nikki
my sansa fuze doesn't have a way to search
2011-03-23 08235, 2011
hawke__
Though sorting by latin transliteration isn’t exactly helpful there either.
2011-03-23 08241, 2011
hawke__
is it?
2011-03-23 08226, 2011
nikki
well, to some extent it helps, since even I don't know unicode order for all of the han characters
2011-03-23 08253, 2011
nikki
but like I said, it's strange
2011-03-23 08240, 2011
nikki
I'm used to japanese names being sorted using japanese sort order, or romanised versions sorted using normal english order
you mean you haven't heard about someone dying and immediately rushed to mb to try and add it before anyone else does?
2011-03-23 08230, 2011
nikki hasn't yet succeeded :P
2011-03-23 08254, 2011
caller_6 knows somebody who writes obits for a large newspaper. He has a huge back-catalog of interviews that he's done for the purpose. /Usually/ the subject doesn't guess why he/she is being interviewed. Other times, well... awkward.
2011-03-23 08208, 2011
gnu_andrew
nikki, that's what I was doing... much too slow though
2011-03-23 08221, 2011
nikki
:)
2011-03-23 08245, 2011
nikki
I heard about it around the same time the edit was entered
2011-03-23 08211, 2011
nikki
I can't quite tell though, 'cause the server time is messed up and I don't remember what time it is really
2011-03-23 08246, 2011
gnu_andrew
yeah I wasn't sure what timezone the edit was in
2011-03-23 08207, 2011
gnu_andrew
I was out, just came home and saw the news
2011-03-23 08229, 2011
gnu_andrew
failed miserably on Jacko too though and I was here for that one
2011-03-23 08213, 2011
nikki
I was randomly listening to the radio in german while eating lunch (at 3pm :P) and it was about the only thing I *did* understand
2011-03-23 08209, 2011
reosarevok
I failed miserably on a Spanish flamenco singer
2011-03-23 08215, 2011
reosarevok
Was beaten to it by a Canadian
2011-03-23 08220, 2011
nikki
tsk tsk
2011-03-23 08226, 2011
reosarevok
Now that was weird
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KRSCuan
I don't think I've ever hunted for that kind of edit…
2011-03-23 08224, 2011
KRSCuan
Though I've managed to announce a Eurovision Song Contest Winner on Wikipedia before anyone else could.
2011-03-23 08228, 2011
KRSCuan
>___>
2011-03-23 08214, 2011
hawke__
Regarding the Elizabeth Taylor edit, I do wonder why it’s necessary to have the birth/death years in the comment.
2011-03-23 08208, 2011
reosarevok
Is there a reason for having a comment at all
2011-03-23 08209, 2011
reosarevok
?
2011-03-23 08222, 2011
reosarevok
(I haven't checked if there are more Elizabeth Taylors)
2011-03-23 08223, 2011
hawke__
Also, I freaking hate it when autoeditors put in an autoedit after someone else already has one pending.
2011-03-23 08225, 2011
hawke__
There are.
2011-03-23 08252, 2011
nikki
hawke__: comment on the edit then (and if there's still one open, ask them to revert their changes)
2011-03-23 08223, 2011
nikki
after all, auto-editors can just approve the open edit
2011-03-23 08210, 2011
hawke__
This is why I don’t like autoedits/editors.
2011-03-23 08228, 2011
nikki
without them, mb would be open edit hell
2011-03-23 08249, 2011
hawke__
Much as I’d like to be one, as of course I would *never* abuse my power. ;-)
2011-03-23 08254, 2011
hawke__
“would be”?
2011-03-23 08208, 2011
nikki
worse than it already is :P
2011-03-23 08209, 2011
hawke__
There’s not much harm in having open edits anyway.
2011-03-23 08253, 2011
nikki
the more open edits there are, the fewer people ever see... and if nobody sees them, they might as well just apply when they're entered instead of applying two weeks later :P
