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      • reosarevok
        That puts us over the 15k, yep?
      • 2011-03-18 07740, 2011

      • ruaok
        the the chiropractor where I rent my office, $130.
      • 2011-03-18 07749, 2011

      • ruaok
        $15500 now. :)
      • 2011-03-18 07755, 2011

      • nikki
        cool
      • 2011-03-18 07705, 2011

      • ruaok
        I'm going to spend it all today. :)
      • 2011-03-18 07714, 2011

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2011-03-18 07721, 2011

      • ocharles
        ruaok: oh, I got more feedback
      • 2011-03-18 07729, 2011

      • ocharles gets link
      • 2011-03-18 07737, 2011

      • ruaok
        thats going to be a flood of boxes rolling in.
      • 2011-03-18 07739, 2011

      • ruaok
        ocharles: thanks.
      • 2011-03-18 07752, 2011

      • ocharles
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      • ruaok
        the feedback on mb-devel was good. confirmed the raid card choice.
      • 2011-03-18 07700, 2011

      • ocharles
        oh, more replies I haven't seen yet too
      • 2011-03-18 07749, 2011

      • ruaok
        good everything converges.
      • 2011-03-18 07714, 2011

      • ruaok
        we're keeping the DB in ram, so 4 spindles is fine. going for the fastest ram I can.
      • 2011-03-18 07728, 2011

      • ruaok
        I'm going to look at the cores vs proc speed pricing again.
      • 2011-03-18 07740, 2011

      • ruaok
        BBU for the LSI raid controller is also a must now.
      • 2011-03-18 07755, 2011

      • ocharles does like that Ben chap
      • 2011-03-18 07700, 2011

      • ocharles
        I thought he'd have some good info
      • 2011-03-18 07745, 2011

      • ruaok
        indeed. he's good people.
      • 2011-03-18 07731, 2011

      • ocharles
        ERROR: out of shared memory
      • 2011-03-18 07735, 2011

      • ocharles
        hrm, this doesn't look very good
      • 2011-03-18 07747, 2011

      • ruaok
        from PG?
      • 2011-03-18 07759, 2011

      • ocharles
        yea, on my box, not hobbes
      • 2011-03-18 07703, 2011

      • ocharles
        i guess it's from pg anyway
      • 2011-03-18 07724, 2011

      • hawke_
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      • hawke_
        This is work in progress and not official.
      • 2011-03-18 07735, 2011

      • hawke_
        This is an official style guideline.
      • 2011-03-18 07739, 2011

      • hawke_
        so …which is it?
      • 2011-03-18 07744, 2011

      • reosarevok
        nikki?
      • 2011-03-18 07747, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Any ideas?
      • 2011-03-18 07737, 2011

      • hawke_
        I’m pretty sure it’s official, but why the disclaimer?
      • 2011-03-18 07744, 2011

      • nikki
        no idea
      • 2011-03-18 07700, 2011

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      • hawke_
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      • hawke_
        I think it belongs better under performer, as it was much closer to pop music at the time the album was released.
      • 2011-03-18 07753, 2011

      • hawke_
        Possibly with the release artist to the performer and the track artist as the composer.
      • 2011-03-18 07703, 2011

      • hawke_
        It seems weird and somewhat arbitrary to have that release under the composer, but this release with the exact same recording, under the performer: http://musicbrainz.org/release/8c64ca27-c6ff-47cd…
      • 2011-03-18 07756, 2011

      • hawke_
        (just because the latter has a second track with a different composer)
      • 2011-03-18 07717, 2011

      • reosarevok
        It does seem arbitrary, I can't argue with that
      • 2011-03-18 07754, 2011

      • reosarevok
        "Artist" credit is a pita
      • 2011-03-18 07756, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :(
      • 2011-03-18 07702, 2011

      • hawke_
        Yeah, but there’s not really a good alternative.
      • 2011-03-18 07732, 2011

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      • hawke_
        Or at least, not really a good way to consistently apply a rule and have it make sense in every circumstance
      • 2011-03-18 07737, 2011

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      • ruaok
        YESS!
      • 2011-03-18 07706, 2011

      • ruaok
        We made GSoc again!
      • 2011-03-18 07754, 2011

      • ocharles high fives
      • 2011-03-18 07705, 2011

      • ocharles
        where's that unicode character when I need it
      • 2011-03-18 07740, 2011

      • caller_6
        hawke_: my understanding for CSG ACs is this: the exemption for "recitals" is based on the idea that filing a release under the performer is /marginally/ more useful than filing it under VA.
      • 2011-03-18 07728, 2011

      • caller_6
        hawke_: but if there's only one composer, it's not a "mixed recital" and not VA.
      • 2011-03-18 07716, 2011

      • hawke_
        caller_6: Sounds about right.
      • 2011-03-18 07743, 2011

      • caller_6
        hawke_: the exception to the exception is in a multi-disc set or series. Example: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Series/Isaac_Stern_Li…
      • 2011-03-18 07726, 2011

      • caller_6
        even if a particular volume is only one composer, I put them under the performer since /in context/ it's a VA series focused on the performer
      • 2011-03-18 07753, 2011

      • lidel
        Hi, is there any list of MB ideas for GSoC? (MetaBrainz is listed at: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accept… )
      • 2011-03-18 07734, 2011

      • nikki
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      • lidel
        thx :)
      • 2011-03-18 07714, 2011

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      • caller_6
        hawke_: I also think I have a partial-answer to your official/un-official question.
      • 2011-03-18 07704, 2011

      • caller_6
        The "mixed recital" section /is/ official (taken from the CSG main page) even though the rest of the page is unofficial.
      • 2011-03-18 07727, 2011

      • hawke_
        Think so? I think it’s just part of the wiki→doc transition.
      • 2011-03-18 07737, 2011

      • hawke_
        ’cos that is the CSG main page, is it not?
      • 2011-03-18 07759, 2011

      • hawke_
        I think the wiki includes that disclaimer, and then when it’s copied to the doc page it keeps the disclaimer.
      • 2011-03-18 07704, 2011

      • caller_6
        Well, okay, I'm guessing.
      • 2011-03-18 07701, 2011

      • hawke_
        It still looks stupid though. :-D
      • 2011-03-18 07703, 2011

      • caller_6
        The problem is compounded. I can't find the "official" CSG page. It's just a redirect to the "unofficial" page.
      • 2011-03-18 07753, 2011

      • caller_6
        Stupid. Agreed. Nonsensical, even.
      • 2011-03-18 07704, 2011

      • caller_6
        I think the CSG stopped getting love when everybody shifted attention to CSGv2
      • 2011-03-18 07706, 2011

      • hawke_
        I think the way it’s supposed to work is that /wiki/ is the unofficial work in progress editable page, and that /doc/ is periodically copied from there as changes are made when it’s “officially approved” or something.
      • 2011-03-18 07725, 2011

      • hawke_
        I think the whole debate is silly and we should just be able to mark ARs as primary or something like that.
      • 2011-03-18 07739, 2011

      • hawke_
        with popular opinion deciding what AR is the most important.
      • 2011-03-18 07756, 2011

      • caller_6
        I agree. A checkbox for "use performer" or "use composer"
      • 2011-03-18 07751, 2011

      • caller_6
        Maybe others. "use compiler" (for Alan Lomax type stuff) maybe?
      • 2011-03-18 07708, 2011

      • hawke_
        I’d rather it were just a selection box for each Person AR on a track…
      • 2011-03-18 07750, 2011

      • caller_6
        You can count on my vote
      • 2011-03-18 07752, 2011

      • hawke_
        But it’s post-NGS (at best) stuff that would require a lot of programming work.
      • 2011-03-18 07710, 2011

      • hawke_
        And it would probably get a lot of objections from various places.
      • 2011-03-18 07736, 2011

      • hawke_
        Man, why don’t musicians have cool nicknames like they used to? “The Red-Headed Music Maker”, “The King of the Ivories”
      • 2011-03-18 07700, 2011

      • caller_6
        All the good ones are taken?
      • 2011-03-18 07703, 2011

      • hawke_
        Must be.
      • 2011-03-18 07758, 2011

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      • hawke_
        ooh: “The Hurricane of Music” :-D
      • 2011-03-18 07735, 2011

      • ruaok
        fundraiser is at $16k now. :)
      • 2011-03-18 07724, 2011

      • lidel
        \o/
      • 2011-03-18 07739, 2011

      • ruaok
        and I just spent $15k on 5 new servers. :)
      • 2011-03-18 07751, 2011

      • ruaok
        its going to be nice to have NGS on fresh, clean consistent hardware.
      • 2011-03-18 07715, 2011

      • ruaok
        I should be able to start racking new machines next wednesday
      • 2011-03-18 07731, 2011

      • Muz
        ruaok's rack ++
      • 2011-03-18 07758, 2011

      • ruaok
        lol
      • 2011-03-18 07729, 2011

      • KRSCuan
        ruaok: 16k including Google's contribution?
      • 2011-03-18 07738, 2011

      • ruaok
        yep.
      • 2011-03-18 07750, 2011

      • KRSCuan
        Nice. Last time I checked, the counter was a 4500 sans Google.
      • 2011-03-18 07750, 2011

      • ruaok
        the counter now stands at $5000.
      • 2011-03-18 07719, 2011

      • ruaok
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      • KRSCuan
        130$ from chiropracters? :D
      • 2011-03-18 07748, 2011

      • ruaok
        they are friends of mine whom I rent the office from...
      • 2011-03-18 07713, 2011

      • caller_6
        I thought it was because chiropractors want to keep us hunched over our keyboards.
      • 2011-03-18 07700, 2011

      • caller_6 just restated the obvious, didn't he. oops.
      • 2011-03-18 07709, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        Damn, SoundCloud chiped in a ton.
      • 2011-03-18 07714, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        chipped? yeah, chipped.
      • 2011-03-18 07721, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        or half a ton, your choice :)
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