kepstin hopes that some time in NGS, one will be able to attach language codes to things like track and artist names, and it'll use those to set the appropriate lang and rtl attributes on the website for display...
2011-03-02 06107, 2011
kepstin
not that'll fix the couple of cases where someone uses the chinese version of an ambiguous CJK character in an otherwise japanese name, but still...
2011-03-02 06104, 2011
mchou
kepstin: you around?
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mchou
A re-release (boxed set) came out with a different title. What's the best way to handle this in MB?
2011-03-02 06140, 2011
mchou
basically would like to make a soft link
2011-03-02 06144, 2011
mchou
to the earlier release but with different name
2011-03-02 06130, 2011
ddaydj
i had a release like that, just added the new release event, you can put something in the edit notes and/or annotation
ddaydj: no, it's a bit more complicated than you imagine
2011-03-02 06159, 2011
mchou
there's are three (Boxed set) releases, A, B, and C
2011-03-02 06129, 2011
mchou
C consists of 2 discs from A and 2 discs from B
2011-03-02 06117, 2011
ddaydj
probably a new release then, and set it as a compilation
2011-03-02 06120, 2011
mchou
both A and B consists of 5 discs
2011-03-02 06102, 2011
mchou
the compilation is not the issue. doing that is easy
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mchou
for 'C' how do I say via MB contains A1 A2 B3 B4?
2011-03-02 06111, 2011
ddaydj
if the selection of albums inside the boxset is different than the previous one, i sy do a new release
2011-03-02 06127, 2011
ddaydj
*say
2011-03-02 06136, 2011
mchou
they arent differnt
2011-03-02 06141, 2011
mchou
disc ids are the same
2011-03-02 06126, 2011
ddaydj
what release are we talking about?
2011-03-02 06121, 2011
mchou
Basically I want to create a new release group saying the new release group 'C' that contains A1 A2 and B3 B4
2011-03-02 06106, 2011
ddaydj
a and b are previously released boxsets?
2011-03-02 06111, 2011
mchou
yup
2011-03-02 06138, 2011
ddaydj
so, make a new release group, and then make a release for each disc inside that group
2011-03-02 06153, 2011
mchou
sigh, nm
2011-03-02 06102, 2011
ddaydj
what release are we talking about?
2011-03-02 06122, 2011
mchou
how is what you're saying any different than creating a new release?
2011-03-02 06141, 2011
ddaydj
you can't copy releases if that's what you're looking to do
2011-03-02 06107, 2011
mchou
ddaydj: look, just forget it, ok
2011-03-02 06119, 2011
ddaydj
why won't you tell me what release this is?
2011-03-02 06148, 2011
mchou
what difference if I tell you what release this is?
2011-03-02 06102, 2011
mchou
I've laid out the scenario
2011-03-02 06111, 2011
mchou
it aint rocket science
2011-03-02 06132, 2011
ddaydj
well you're not getting the answer you want, so you must not be explaining it right
2011-03-02 06127, 2011
mchou
what's there to explain? release C consists of discs sliced from A and B
2011-03-02 06155, 2011
mchou
A, B and C don't have the same names but the discs in common share samed disc ids
2011-03-02 06107, 2011
mchou
ssme*
2011-03-02 06112, 2011
mchou
same*
2011-03-02 06125, 2011
srotta
mchou: There's no way to do a soft link in current MB.
2011-03-02 06144, 2011
srotta
mchou: So add a new release, then add AR between the discs of the new release and the old releases.
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mchou
reosarevok: ping
2011-03-02 06111, 2011
reosarevok
mchou:pong
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mchou
reosarevok: pls check pm
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VxJasonxV
exciting conversation
2011-03-02 06133, 2011
VxJasonxV
I should set an alarm for tomorrow...
2011-03-02 06116, 2011
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jesus2099
hey, once again, new PUID generation has been down for a few days already... :/
2011-03-02 06146, 2011
reosarevok
Isn't that one of the services that are not controlled by MB?
2011-03-02 06132, 2011
jesus2099
exactly
2011-03-02 06109, 2011
reosarevok
I'll be so happy the day we get rid of all those
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jesus2099
why?
2011-03-02 06155, 2011
jesus2099
ah you would like a MB specific fingerprint?
2011-03-02 06116, 2011
jesus2099
or a wide-spread fingerprint like lastfm ?
2011-03-02 06145, 2011
nikki would be happy with anything that's open
2011-03-02 06100, 2011
jesus2099
open your mind
2011-03-02 06157, 2011
nikki
'cause that's twice we've been screwed over by fingerprinting stuff, whereas if it's open we could just set it up locally if we need to
2011-03-02 06140, 2011
jesus2099
the second time, we are not screwed yet, are we ? :)
2011-03-02 06145, 2011
nikki
might as well be. last I checked, they don't maintain stuff like genpuid, you can't get new keys for the programs, etc
2011-03-02 06154, 2011
jesus2099
argh
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jesus2099
/(x_x;)/
2011-03-02 06136, 2011
nikki
for that matter, they don't even provide genpuid any more, we had to host the files ourselves
2011-03-02 06142, 2011
jesus2099
There is Luks or someone else (sorry I forgot) who asked for fingerprint scanning with a tool of ones ... but I didn't really nuderstand ... I scanned but it found nothing on my files and I didn't understand (I said that already)
2011-03-02 06143, 2011
jesus2099
the guy came to IRC saying hey here is the new fingerprint scanner, please generate a key and scan the hell out of your files ... I did but I didn't understand (again) ...
2011-03-02 06121, 2011
jesus2099
None of my files did show any kind of fingerprint so I didn't understand
2011-03-02 06132, 2011
jesus2099
Also I didn't understand
2011-03-02 06142, 2011
jesus2099
such kind of stuff
2011-03-02 06117, 2011
nikki
he told you at the time, it only works on files with mbids and you said you delete those tags
2011-03-02 06103, 2011
jesus2099
hey it seems you understodd !!! now I remember ...
2011-03-02 06134, 2011
jesus2099
if I don't delete MBID, lastfm does some funny stuff
2011-03-02 06159, 2011
jesus2099
it screws the whole scrobble kind of thing
2011-03-02 06113, 2011
juhae
haven't noticed anything screwing up with scrobbling
2011-03-02 06117, 2011
nikki
I think he added something recently so it could do more than just files with mbid, but I don't really remember
Any sed wizes about? I'm trying to do something like "sed '1,10/debug$/d' file" (ie., delete lines ending in "debug" if they're one of the ten first.
2011-03-02 06154, 2011
Freso
) but that command fails me, and Google isn't giving me any answers. :/
2011-03-02 06137, 2011
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Freso
FTR: sed '1,10{/debug$/d}' file
2011-03-02 06141, 2011
mudcrow
hi, does anyone know if 2 minutes of silence can generate a PUID? there's a PUID attached to a track that is 2 minutes of silence and I'm wondering if it's legit
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jesus2099
Freso: dura lex sed lex
2011-03-02 06122, 2011
jesus2099
mudcrow: no problem with silence IMO it still generates something
2011-03-02 06139, 2011
mudcrow
ok thanks mate
2011-03-02 06107, 2011
Freso
You could try generating a 2 minute long track with no sound and run genpuid against it?
2011-03-02 06108, 2011
Freso
:p
2011-03-02 06111, 2011
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Freso
mudcrow: Also, did you run analysis on the track, or do you base it solely on your not hearing anything? It is possible to have non-silent silence in tracks, that might easily be picked up by data analysis (like PUID generation would be).
2011-03-02 06109, 2011
mudcrow
it's a vinyl rip, so there would be something, if only rumbling and hiss, which made me think it could have a PUID
2011-03-02 06128, 2011
jesus2099
mudcrow,: I wouldn't PUID any vynil as the track cut can't be the same each time you record it... PUID needs exact same cuts
2011-03-02 06155, 2011
jesus2099
it is useless on sounds coming from anywhere in the tune, it needs the whold thing exactly cut the same way as far as I know
2011-03-02 06110, 2011
mudcrow
not sure about that jesus2099 we don't seem to have hoards of different PUIDs attached to vinyl only releases.
2011-03-02 06133, 2011
jesus2099
I think they all come from the same pirate mp3 ... IMO
2011-03-02 06101, 2011
jesus2099
That should be tested ... but now the genpuid is down for new puid
