#musicbrainz

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      • reosarevok
        I am
      • But come on
      • ocharles
        cjk32: it applies every hour, refreshing every 5 minutes won't change that
      • warp wonders if jQuery().trigger() fires events in a predictable order.
      • reosarevok
        I come from a country where minimum wages are 1200+ and kebabs are like 3 euros, and here minimum wages are like 300 euros and kebabs are like 5
      • It's just too expensive
      • cjk32
        Sorry, I must be missing something. When modbot next runs, will all these not then dissappear, but end up replaced with another set in exactly the same state?
      • reosarevok
        cjk32, yeah, they should
      • And that set should become larger the closer the hour is
      • CallerNo6
        reosarevok: In that sense, the kebab /is/ like a burrito. If it costs more than $7 it misses the point entirely.
      • cjk32
        Okay, so I normally expect to see the entire first page in the state state then, except for very shortly after the hour?
      • ocharles
        cjk32: pretty much
      • reosarevok
        If you're voting on the full Open Edits list
      • You could as well start always in page 40 or something
      • It will be equally helpful and you'll avoid those
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      • cjk32
        Ah okay, I was thrown by nikki's comment "It's not that common", which was on reflection part of another converstation :)
      • nikki
        I didn't realise you were looking at *all* open edits
      • reosarevok
        Few people do that, to avoid death by voting
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      • There's a limit to the number of source-less edits a person can survive per day :)
      • cjk32
        I'll start a few pages in. It seems pointless voting Yes on things that will get accepted shortly anyway, and a unfair to vote No without an chance to respond.
      • Sorry, I should have been clearer about where I was looking.
      • I started with all edits; I'm ambitious!
      • reosarevok
        cjk32, if you want to be ambitious AND extra helpful
      • Start with all removal and merging edits
      • ocharles
        yea
      • reosarevok
        (well, if you avoid merge recording and merge work for a while you'll keep more sanity)
      • ocharles
        merge edits (especially release and release group) ones usually don't need any source info
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      • cjk32
        With several invariably without a duration
      • reosarevok
        cjk32, merge recording and merge work are a pain, and hard to vote on if you don't know the artist well
      • But the rest of the mergers are relatively simple
      • Either they're correct or they're clearly wrong, most of the time
      • ocharles
        I want to create an "iterative" voting system
      • it would show you an /edit/id page (from a search) and when you submit your vote, it shows you the next edit in the search
      • useful?
      • warp
        when I vote, i generally do most of the voting on an overview page with X edits. not the /edit/id page.
      • reosarevok
        Yeah
      • warp
        I usually only see the /edit/id page by clicking links in this channel.
      • ianmcorvidae
        ocharles: yes, useful :) I don't get enough info on the search page
      • ocharles
        hmm, the search page and the /edit/id page give the same info though
      • reosarevok
        They don't give you voting info
      • ianmcorvidae
        ^ that
      • reosarevok likes to know what trusted users have voted
      • if I see that nikki or someone like that voted yes, I'm pretty likely to say "oh, okay" without checking _quite_ as thoroughly
      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • ianmcorvidae
        or if I know someone who really knows this given artist is voting yes
      • or whatevr
      • cjk32
        ocharles: agreed, a list of edits is busy on the screen, and when switching between tabs to check things can be quite awkward
      • reosarevok
        Actually, I wouldn't mind a pref to show votes by certain editors, selected by me, on the edit list
      • (with needing to go to the actual edit to see them all)
      • ianmcorvidae
        that's just needlessly complex, I think
      • reosarevok
        Maybe
      • ianmcorvidae
        it's a really twiddly level of control that only AEs and other over-users like me would use :P
      • nikki
        isn't that the case for pretty much everything in the advanced search? :P
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      • ocharles
        Another thought
      • having automatic facts under edits might quite nice
      • for example, in merge release groups "Facts: * all release group artist credits are the same * all titles are identical * all release groups have matching types"
      • reosarevok would rather show them only when that wasn't the case
      • reosarevok
        But I can see how it might be nice
      • cjk32
        "ERROR: column reference "status" is ambiguous", known issue?
      • ocharles
        yea, and fixed
      • sadly there's no work around, other than "wait for monday"
      • you can't search for an artist/label and provide a status too
      • cjk32
        okay, thanks. Monday's not too far.
      • ocharles
        Hrm, if you merge 2 separate release into one, there's no need to merge the release groups, is there?
      • I guess actually, it's more correct to do that than wait for them to be deleted
      • reosarevok
        Well, you shouldn't force it for sure
      • nikki
        there's a ticket about merging release groups
      • reosarevok
        But the previous way, in which you chose whether to also enter a Merge RG edit, was kinda nice
      • nikki
        that only showed up if there was only one release in the release group that would be merged, didn't it?
      • (which I guess makes sense, if there are others, you should go take a look and make sure they should be merged)
      • reosarevok can't remember
      • ocharles
        http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14978853 wtf, 1 yes vote - no user?
      • oh, there he is
      • that was odd...
      • reosarevok saw that for a moment
      • reosarevok
        Not today
      • Other day
      • I voted and it counted it but not my vote
      • reosarevok can't remember if it was reosarevok Yes, 0 yes votes or 1 yes vote and no reosarevok)
      • CatCat
        uh. the library sent me like "oay becasue the stuf you lent is expired" @
      • but.. the library is closed becasue of the comc.. wtf am is supposed to do?
      • bomb not comc
      • Mineo
        break into the library?
      • CatCat
        i can't do that!
      • this isn't my fault
      • i mean, i didn't fuckign bomb anything
      • godmnit that guy
      • nikki
        take it back once it's open again and explain that you couldn't bring it back sooner because it was closed
      • CatCat
        i wil sue anders breivik for 150 kr. he owes me for this bullshit :P
      • but the thing might not open for over months
      • it's already bee na month now and it hasn't open
      • reosarevok
        Can't you take it to a different branch of the library?
      • CatCat
        i don't know wher those are and i suspect that the music would be bad to deliver or something
      • and well, i've had other things on my mind
      • reosarevok
        Like, some libraries have a smaller library in each neighborhood
      • CatCat
        iknow there are some, but i have no idea wher those are
      • i can maybe ask the library at school altough they are unatached
      • hawke_
        Do they not have a drop box for after-hours?
      • reosarevok
        hawke_, if it's closed because of a bomb, doubt that will matter
      • jacobbrett
        Are you guys familiar with the GRD? http://www.globalrepertoiredatabase.com/
      • reosarevok
        wow
      • Amazon, EMI Music Publishing, iTunes, Nokia, PRS for Music, SACEM, STIM and Uni versal Music Publishin
      • And the website they come up with looks like that?
      • jacobbrett
        Indeed... though it looks like this will be a future central repository for works information
      • reosarevok can only fear how terrible the design will be
      • reosarevok
        Although design of most works DBs is awful already
      • jacobbrett
        Check out "New solutions - Global copyright management databases" for a June 2011 update summary: http://www.icmp-ciem.org/node/207
      • ocharles
        argh
      • offer of 300 quid to sell my pair of 1210s
      • Do i do it, or do I keep them!?
      • warp
        what do you need 300 quid for?
      • reosarevok
        ocharles, if you need that, just do the MB job ruaok posted the other day
      • And get 500$
      • warp
        hah, indeed.
      • ocharles
        I was considering getting a nice belt driven table instead
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      • derwin
        ocharles.. hah. $500 for 1210s.. ....
      • it depends on whether you have made the transition to digital djing.
      • ocharles
        derwin: in the uk ebay, a pair will sell for about that much
      • and yes, I already have traktor scratch
      • I just don't dj at all atm
      • derwin
        my 1200s are looking pretty g-d obsolete
      • esp. since I got a controller
      • ocharles
        they aren't good listening decks, there is too much rumble
      • if anything, I want to move to djing in ableton live
      • derwin
        ocharles : all that torque comes from somewhere..
      • ocharles
        of course
      • derwin
        ocharles you know djtechtools.com ?
      • ocharles
        nope
      • derwin
        it is probably what you are looking for
      • I got one of their controllers, almost do not care about 1200s at all
      • despite huge record collection
      • ocharles
        i don't really dj at all these days, so probably not :)
      • but will keep it in mind
      • but I think I want a couple of nice general midi controllers (akai mpd32, etc) and to move to mixing in live
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      • CatCat
        :(((
      • it seems the sansa clip+ i want doesn't exsist anymore now
      • Mineo
        which one do you want?:P
      • CatCat
        the sansa clip+ !
      • Mineo
        I know what it is, I have one, too
      • CatCat
        dude
      • Mineo
        but it still seems to be sold?