The case that I had there was a release with a known release date, label, catalogue number, cover art, and even sample audio from one of the tracks... just no tracklist published yet :)
2011-08-29 24118, 2011
kepstin-laptop
even has an amazon page.
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reosarevok
Germans, does this seem correct? "Ellend du hast umbrangen mich"
2011-08-29 24151, 2011
Leftmost
I'm not German, but it doesn't seem correct.
2011-08-29 24132, 2011
reosarevok is used to Naxos failing at German
2011-08-29 24149, 2011
reosarevok
Mineo?
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Leftmost
It seems, in fact, utterly wrong.
2011-08-29 24106, 2011
nikki
o_O
2011-08-29 24159, 2011
reosarevok
Ok, step 2, any idea how to correct it?
2011-08-29 24114, 2011
reosarevok
(note it was composed in 1400 so it could be just weird)
2011-08-29 24156, 2011
Leftmost
I can't even figure out what it means.
2011-08-29 24152, 2011
nikki guesses it means something like "misery, you killed me"
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nikki
it could be right, I avoid all these old german titles 'cause they always look wrong :P
2011-08-29 24107, 2011
kepstin-laptop ends up dropping his musicbrainz_db and reimporting from dumps as the easiest way around the replication failures he was seeing :/
2011-08-29 24120, 2011
nikki
oh
2011-08-29 24128, 2011
Leftmost
A lot of sources have "umfangen" or "umbfangen".
2011-08-29 24129, 2011
nikki
googling suggests it's umfangen
2011-08-29 24144, 2011
kepstin-laptop
well, at least that server's on a UPS now, so I won't get that problem again...
2011-08-29 24113, 2011
Leftmost
The b could be a legitimate archaic spelling.
2011-08-29 24139, 2011
Leftmost
So something like "Ellend, du hast umbfangen mich".
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Leftmost
Which is better.
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reosarevok
So
2011-08-29 24110, 2011
reosarevok
I'll leave the b
2011-08-29 24112, 2011
reosarevok
Use the other as alias
2011-08-29 24117, 2011
reosarevok
And someone can come fix it later
2011-08-29 24122, 2011
kepstin-laptop was going to ask for opinions about edits like http://musicbrainz.org/edit/15104504 - but it seems like reosarevok has already expressed his opinion on it :)
2011-08-29 24136, 2011
reosarevok
Well
2011-08-29 24142, 2011
reosarevok
That I agree doesn't mean everyone does
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kepstin-laptop
the thing it does is remove the recording from the complete list of performances of the original work... But that's a UI issue.
2011-08-29 24105, 2011
kepstin-laptop
it wouldn't be hard to make the work page also show performances of the "later versions" of that work, I'd think
2011-08-29 24121, 2011
Mineo
reosarevok: with old german titles everything could be correct :)
2011-08-29 24112, 2011
kepstin-laptop
hmm. I really should make an RFC to rename that Work→Work “Later Version” AR to “Derivative Version”
2011-08-29 24134, 2011
kepstin-laptop
something to do this evening, I guess :)
2011-08-29 24143, 2011
reosarevok
Some people didn't agree with that when I probed the list :/
2011-08-29 24156, 2011
nikki
kepstin-laptop: and the japanese capitalisation one? :P
2011-08-29 24146, 2011
kepstin-laptop
... hmm. The japanese capitalization one probably needs a little work, I don't think I actually deal with the case of a Japanese artist releasing something with a tracklist that's entirely in english
2011-08-29 24113, 2011
kepstin-laptop
which happens a lot, and people regularly run 'guess case' over them, then other people regularly switch them back to the original case...
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kepstin-laptop
the only specific wording I have deals with e.g. english words embedded in a title that's otherwise japanese.
nikki shamelessly links it in the hope of getting people to add more links, since there are only 198 right now
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kepstin-laptop
ah, not cool. extended power outage at my house in the middle of a database import... It probably doesn't have enough juice in the UPS to finish that, so it's gonna shut down in the middle...
2011-08-29 24129, 2011
reosarevok
:(
2011-08-29 24142, 2011
reosarevok
You clearly should have a crank-powered device to charge it
2011-08-29 24154, 2011
kepstin-laptop
I'm at work on the other side of town right now :)
2011-08-29 24158, 2011
nikki
he should clearly move to somewhere with more reliable power :P
2011-08-29 24111, 2011
kepstin-laptop
owell, I can just drop the db and restart the import later.
2011-08-29 24124, 2011
Munger
Does NGS work with Apache 2?
2011-08-29 24141, 2011
nikki
it doesn't need apache at all
2011-08-29 24107, 2011
reosarevok
Hmmm
2011-08-29 24108, 2011
reosarevok
So
2011-08-29 24113, 2011
Munger
IC. How would I go about setting up a local server then?
2011-08-29 24127, 2011
Leftmost
Isn't this the second or third power failure during a db import for you, kepstin?
2011-08-29 24142, 2011
reosarevok
What should I do if a release gives a composer for a (classical) piece, but it was later found out that he was not the real composer?
2011-08-29 24142, 2011
Leftmost
There are docs in the documentation on the site.
2011-08-29 24144, 2011
kepstin-laptop
Leftmost: the last time it was a hard power failure during a replication update :)
2011-08-29 24153, 2011
Leftmost
reosarevok, AC?
2011-08-29 24120, 2011
Leftmost
AC and an annotation note, maybe.
2011-08-29 24127, 2011
reosarevok
Leftmost, it feels a bit weird to credit something to John Bedingham as John Dunstable
2011-08-29 24136, 2011
Leftmost
Yeah. Might be a misuse as well. Not sure.
2011-08-29 24153, 2011
kepstin-laptop
reosarevok: in that case, I'd just say it was a mistake in the printing, and that we fixed it...
2011-08-29 24159, 2011
kepstin-laptop
and mention the wrong composer in the ac.
2011-08-29 24157, 2011
reosarevok
ac?
2011-08-29 24159, 2011
reosarevok
You mean annotation?
2011-08-29 24107, 2011
kepstin-laptop
er, yes
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CallerNo6 agrees fwiw
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reosarevok
Ok
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kepstin-laptop
wee, power's back at my house again
2011-08-29 24107, 2011
kepstin-laptop
turns out my usp is perfectly capable of keeping my little atom server running over a 1/2 hour power outage while it's busy importing a database...
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kepstin-laptop
ups*
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CatCat
uh, well if there is no label or format info i must have added it beofre we stored that stuff.. it's probably from the library, but i can't accses it now becasue it's closed for renovation after the bomb.. so no, i dont :(
2011-08-29 24115, 2011
CatCat
dude.. it was added in 2004
2011-08-29 24119, 2011
reosarevok
I know
2011-08-29 24123, 2011
reosarevok
But maybe you had it at home :)
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CatCat
well when the library opens again i can try looking for it
2011-08-29 24145, 2011
CatCat
ah but all my musicvis packed in a box right now
2011-08-29 24124, 2011
reosarevok
(I asked because ehrgeiz wanted to use as part of a boxset, and I imagine if you added it as a standalone is because it is)
i cant say.. i know that releases like boxsets were split up in the library.. but i don't know if that was one of those or actually a a stand alone release
2011-08-29 24133, 2011
kepstin-laptop suggests renaming every track on that release to [unknown]...
2011-08-29 24141, 2011
CatCat
i am serious
2011-08-29 24125, 2011
CatCat
(well actually, once a remove edit is issued it often prompts people ot do soem searching to fix it)