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reosarevok joined the channel
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kepstin
huh. that 'TT dynamic range meter' is a closed-source program that you have to pay to download?
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kepstin
:/
2011-07-16 19703, 2011
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kepstin
probably won't even run on my computer then.
2011-07-16 19745, 2011
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kepstin
hmm. someone's made a freeware foobar2000 plugin version, I might be able to get that running.
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kepstin
huh. the sound playback actually works in the latest foobar2000 in wine; it used to be broken :)
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kepstin
pity it can't show any japanese characters, makes it tricky to browse my music collection.
2011-07-16 19726, 2011
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kepstin
fun. One song I like gets merely DR6 on the original album. On a later compilation, it's down to DR4.
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kepstin
that old dire straits brothers in arms mastering I have has an album DR16 rating... and one of the tracks hits DR20.
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reosarevok
Now's when I ask what it all means
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reosarevok
That they're waaaay too loud?
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kepstin
looks like it's basically just the difference between the peak power and RMS power from the loudest part of the recording.
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reosarevok
Yes
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reosarevok
Sure
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reosarevok
Which means? :D
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kepstin
so, the lower the number the more compressed the sound is
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reosarevok
Oh
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reosarevok
So the Dire Straits one is actually good
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kepstin
it's ridiculously awesome, in fact.
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reosarevok
Such a shame that it is Dire Straits then :D
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kepstin likes that album :)
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reosarevok imagined
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reosarevok
I have to say they're just average for me
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reosarevok
Which is quite good for AOR
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reosarevok
Normally I dislike that stuff, but Dire Straits I can actually listen to with no problems
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reosarevok
Is there a way to measure that without foobar?
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reosarevok
Also, without paying
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reosarevok is curious now
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kepstin
reosarevok: not without paying, it looks like
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kepstin
for this tool anyways
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kepstin
I couldn't find any good open-source ones :/
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kepstin
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kepstin
(the middle one is, oddly enough DR7 - it must be right on the edge between 6 and 7)
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reosarevok
wow
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reosarevok
DR4 is so… rectangular
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kepstin pulls out his red hot chili peppers - californication
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reosarevok
How low how loooooow, will DR sliiiide
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derwin
loudness war victim, that album
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kepstin
at least, i will pull it out once this tool finishes going through the entire discography of another artist :)
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pbryan
Yeah, that one is a dog.
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reosarevok
Oh, that was "long"
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reosarevok
A shame
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reosarevok always thought it was low and it fitted here
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kepstin
hmm. worst track on Californication gets DR3, most of them are DR4.
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reosarevok
DR3?
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reosarevok
What's DR1, white noise?
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kepstin
I dunno :)
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kepstin
DR0 would mean that peak power and RMS power are equal, but I don't know enough about RMS power to know what could cause that.
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Leftmost
reosarevok, AOR?
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reosarevok
Leftmost: Dire Straits? Well, how do you call that? :p
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Leftmost
I'm just asking what "AOR" means.
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reosarevok
Oh
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reosarevok
"that standard rocky thing they put in the radio"
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reosarevok
("album-oriented rock", it seems)
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Leftmost
Oh.
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reosarevok
(a name as silly as intelligent dance music)
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kepstin
hmm. so the thing that would cause a value of DR0 is a recording of a square wave.
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reosarevok
kepstin: heh, go analyze some Ikeda
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kepstin
don't have any :/
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reosarevok
Aww
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kepstin
hmm. some midi synth video game music... hits the same 6-8 values as most modern pop/rock
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reosarevok
You mean that music that was written to be compressed because there was no other chance?
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kepstin
lol. even this one album of chiptune music is DR7
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derwin
kepstin, try some mono lee perry dubs?
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derwin
or king tubbys
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reosarevok wonders if the vinyl masterings get as compressed as the CD ones
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reosarevok
(the modern ones, I mean)
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kepstin
maybe, but I'd hope not. I didn't think the vinyl format would be physically capable of handling stuff like this :/
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kepstin
this is actually almost getting boring; most of the music I have is modern pop/rock, and most of it is getting DR6 - DR8 :)
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kepstin
huh, that's kind of amusing. foobar2000 can play the video files from bonus DVDs which I keep with my music, and plays audio-only from them.
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reosarevok
That can be a good thing
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reosarevok
Especially if they're stuff like live shows
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reosarevok
Most of those are boring to watch, nice to hear
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kepstin found single where the song of the single was DR8, and the music video on the bonus dvd was DR9
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kepstin
pity musicbrainz picard can't tag mkv files, tho :)
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reosarevok
kepstin: ask bitmap to make it possible! ;)
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reosarevok goes to bed for now, might have to wake up "early" tomorrow
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reosarevok
"early" being "before noon"
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kepstin
i have to help my sister move tomorrow :/
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reosarevok
Well, it's not yet 4 AM for you ;)
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kepstin
true :)
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reosarevok
And look at the positive side: moving is cool
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kepstin
huh. Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound is DR15.
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kepstin
not if I'm just there to lift stuff :/
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reosarevok
Especially because it signals the end of flat hunting
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reosarevok
That evil, despisable thing
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reosarevok
*despicable
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reosarevok
Whatever
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reosarevok
So she'll be happy
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reosarevok is usually contagiously happy when moving
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kepstin
but I'm not moving, I'm just helping someone else move.
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kepstin
not quite the same...
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reosarevok
Yeah, that's where the "contagiously" part is important!
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kepstin
hmm. this listening to concert dvds without watching them kind of grows on you.
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reosarevok
Also, you can use the old "hey, I helped you move, now invite me to a nice dinner" trick
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reosarevok
;p
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reosarevok
In addition to the "it's a new house, invite me to a nice dinner to inaugurate it" and the "I'm your loving brother, invite me to a nice dinner"
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reosarevok
That's 3 days of not cooking!
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reosarevok is going to bed now and dream of nice dinners and square waves
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reosarevok
Good timeofday y'all
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kepstin ponders merging http://musicbrainz.org/artist/a6e7bcdb-e636-42b4-9c31-ff7bad7fda86 and http://musicbrainz.org/artist/9ac83e0c-6a90-41cf-b06f-527ed0a79ffe
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kepstin
well, time of day everyone.
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VxJasonxV
< reosarevok> How low how loooooow, will DR sliiiide <-- hahahahaha
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VxJasonxV
who's alive in here?
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kepstin-laptop
nobody
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kepstin-laptop
particularly not me
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VxJasonxV
so what's this about a mbz discogs importer?
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bitmap
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derwin
VxJasonxV it's a firefox plugin
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VxJasonxV
boooo
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VxJasonxV
kinda
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warp has some ideas for easy writing of importers.
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VxJasonxV
hmm
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VxJasonxV
I don't know if I have a discogs account.
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VxJasonxV
nope
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VxJasonxV
we need a customizable track parser interface in NGS :/
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derwin
discogs account is pretty easy
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derwin
but yeah, you need to be logged in for the firefox importer to work
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VxJasonxV
yep
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derwin
I use that importer a lot, fwiw
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VxJasonxV
I'm about too
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VxJasonxV
I suppose I can use it since Chrome works with them
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derwin
there is one bug
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derwin
that is notable
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derwin
it tries to do multiple artist stuff for & and "feat" and etc
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derwin
but it prepends two spaces instead of one
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derwin
and the UI accepts that
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bitmap
the discogs userscript doesn't work in chrome btw
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VxJasonxV
well so much for that
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CatCat
someone try this
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CatCat
Now grooving to: Lemon Jelly ~ Elements (8:40) (from Lost Horizons) (2002)
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CatCat
i mean for dynamic ranges
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CatCat is curious abotu *his* music now
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CatCat
but i use mac so i am screwed by those pay for windows guys
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warp
pay for windows guys?
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CatCat
