#musicbrainz

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      • reosarevok would love it, combined with a script to set languages
      • 2011-07-21 20209, 2011

      • reosarevok is clearly not going to use the RE on a thousand releases in a row
      • 2011-07-21 20224, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I value the little sanity I have left
      • 2011-07-21 20202, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm. signwriting isn't in unicode, and requires special support to display symbols in the spacially correct place, so musicbrainz couldn't easily support it :/
      • 2011-07-21 20230, 2011

      • nikki
        it needs vertical text, so that rules out everything except IE, doesn't it?
      • 2011-07-21 20231, 2011

      • reosarevok
        kepstin-laptop: we can't even support Hebrew correctly
      • 2011-07-21 20242, 2011

      • reosarevok
        So… not surprising
      • 2011-07-21 20217, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        ‏testing something.
      • 2011-07-21 20221, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm.
      • 2011-07-21 20232, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        w/e, that didn't do anything useful :)
      • 2011-07-21 20241, 2011

      • reosarevok thinks ruaok should spend some money on a MB tent in Tahrir and recruit Arabic speaking editors
      • 2011-07-21 20241, 2011

      • CatCat
        what about braille?
      • 2011-07-21 20250, 2011

      • nikki
        braille is in unicode
      • 2011-07-21 20254, 2011

      • CatCat agrees
      • 2011-07-21 20201, 2011

      • CatCat
        any releases rih braille?
      • 2011-07-21 20204, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        ⠫⠣
      • 2011-07-21 20207, 2011

      • CatCat
        with*
      • 2011-07-21 20210, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop picked a couple random symbols
      • 2011-07-21 20243, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        CatCat: starting up my server to check, but I'd guess not
      • 2011-07-21 20246, 2011

      • CatCat idly wonders if unown scitp is/could ever be a part of unicode
      • 2011-07-21 20205, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        nope, none in braille
      • 2011-07-21 20209, 2011

      • CatCat
        hn
      • 2011-07-21 20210, 2011

      • nikki
        doubt it
      • 2011-07-21 20213, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        as of my dump, which is admittedly a few weeks old, but still
      • 2011-07-21 20229, 2011

      • ruaok promises reosarevok to get right on that
      • 2011-07-21 20248, 2011

      • CatCat
        there must exist atleast one release with braille tracklist
      • 2011-07-21 20200, 2011

      • reosarevok
        CatCat: I'm sure there is, find it and add it :D
      • 2011-07-21 20202, 2011

      • nikki imagines it won't be a jewel case
      • 2011-07-21 20211, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Maybe a cardboard sleeve
      • 2011-07-21 20211, 2011

      • CatCat
        it's like rule 34 of musicbrainz.. if yo ucan think it ther is a tracklist with those symbols
      • 2011-07-21 20220, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Oh, crap, we don't support those! :D
      • 2011-07-21 20229, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
      • 2011-07-21 20235, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop should add a braille-transliterated pseudo-release of something, just for fun :)
      • 2011-07-21 20243, 2011

      • nikki
        tsk
      • 2011-07-21 20239, 2011

      • nikki doesn't approve of "just for fun" pseudo-releases
      • 2011-07-21 20254, 2011

      • CatCat does.. a little
      • 2011-07-21 20209, 2011

      • CatCat
        bah
      • 2011-07-21 20211, 2011

      • CatCat
      • 2011-07-21 20233, 2011

      • CatCat doesn't think it counts
      • 2011-07-21 20238, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        the script isn't braille, so no
      • 2011-07-21 20209, 2011

      • CatCat
      • 2011-07-21 20210, 2011

      • CatCat
        :(
      • 2011-07-21 20224, 2011

      • CatCat
        ahh
      • 2011-07-21 20229, 2011

      • CatCat
        bed time for me. natta all
      • 2011-07-21 20209, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        nikki: am I right that you're one of the people who cares about the rate-of-change graph stuff?
      • 2011-07-21 20218, 2011

      • nikki
        yes
      • 2011-07-21 20228, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        okay
      • 2011-07-21 20229, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        so
      • 2011-07-21 20242, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        should I do that as a second graph, showing the rates of change for everything that's selected on the main graph
      • 2011-07-21 20254, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        or should I put it into the same graph, and have there be two checkboxes per entity/line?
      • 2011-07-21 20204, 2011

      • nikki
        hm...
      • 2011-07-21 20224, 2011

      • nikki
        I would probably say the latter right now, but I guess I wouldn't really know unless I played with it
      • 2011-07-21 20227, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        (the former being much easier, of course, but the latter provides more flexibility... the question is if the scales will match up nicely)
      • 2011-07-21 20237, 2011

      • nikki
        (and we haven't had rate of change graphs since all graphs were separate)
      • 2011-07-21 20248, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, I know
      • 2011-07-21 20250, 2011

      • nikki
        so it's not like I have any previous experience to think about
      • 2011-07-21 20256, 2011

      • nikki
        I think luks also wanted them
      • 2011-07-21 20257, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
      • 2011-07-21 20206, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        I guess the question is what would you want to compare rates of change _with_
      • 2011-07-21 20219, 2011

      • reosarevok
        ianmcorvidae: you know what we need?
      • 2011-07-21 20233, 2011

      • reosarevok
        A timeline graph for the number of entities we have graphs for!
      • 2011-07-21 20234, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :D
      • 2011-07-21 20237, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        haha
      • 2011-07-21 20251, 2011

      • nikki
        I think I wouldn't really be comparing it with anything
      • 2011-07-21 20208, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        hm, okay
      • 2011-07-21 20213, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        that suggests putting it on a second graph
      • 2011-07-21 20227, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        since that's easier to implement :P
      • 2011-07-21 20245, 2011

      • luks
        yes, I definitely wanted them :)
      • 2011-07-21 20241, 2011

      • luks
        second graph makes sense, because the scales are totally different
      • 2011-07-21 20258, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        okay, sounds good to me :)
      • 2011-07-21 20220, 2011

      • nikki
        kepstin-laptop: btw, are you going to send an rfv for the homepage thing?
      • 2011-07-21 20227, 2011

      • nikki
        you got your +1 after all
      • 2011-07-21 20203, 2011

      • ruaok
        fuck. ran out of diskspace on the VM again. :-(
      • 2011-07-21 20232, 2011

      • tungolcraft
        ianmcorvidae: you could also just add a single checkbox that toggles between normal and rate of change views
      • 2011-07-21 20248, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        tungolcraft: that's fundamentally the same as making two graphs
      • 2011-07-21 20252, 2011

      • tungolcraft
        yeah
      • 2011-07-21 20255, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        as far as what I'm doing right now goes
      • 2011-07-21 20200, 2011

      • ianmcorvidae
        I can easily do that later :P
      • 2011-07-21 20203, 2011

      • tungolcraft
        interface issue
      • 2011-07-21 20246, 2011

      • warp joined the channel
      • 2011-07-21 20252, 2011

      • ruaok goes hunting for fudz
      • 2011-07-21 20223, 2011

      • hawke_
        Heh, I wonder what name is the most common in MB.
      • 2011-07-21 20204, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        artist name?
      • 2011-07-21 20206, 2011

      • hawke_
        There are apparently 7 david campbells
      • 2011-07-21 20209, 2011

      • hawke_
        yeah
      • 2011-07-21 20233, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop needs to find a better way of pushing music to his stereo system.
      • 2011-07-21 20250, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        my WD Live HD Plus box is nice, but it doesn't scrobble ;)
      • 2011-07-21 20256, 2011

      • hawke_
        heh
      • 2011-07-21 20249, 2011

      • reosarevok
        hawke_: check for John Williams, there are also a lot
      • 2011-07-21 20200, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (if you mean people names)
      • 2011-07-21 20212, 2011

      • reosarevok
        If band names do, Void for example has lots
      • 2011-07-21 20217, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
        kepstin-laptop, SqueezeServer
      • 2011-07-21 20242, 2011

      • VxJasonxV
      • 2011-07-21 20255, 2011

      • reosarevok
        kepstin-laptop: someone make my vinyl player scrobble
      • 2011-07-21 20259, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm. I wonder if this WD box can play the mp3 stream from that
      • 2011-07-21 20208, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        reosarevok: using a microphone and echoprints?
      • 2011-07-21 20212, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        :)
      • 2011-07-21 20232, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        maybe chromaprints would work too, if you used a line-in
      • 2011-07-21 20241, 2011

      • nikki
        angel and nemesis both have 22 artists
      • 2011-07-21 20200, 2011

      • nikki
        alex and eclipse both have 20...
      • 2011-07-21 20237, 2011

      • nikki
        paul smith and john davis look like the most common proper names with 13 each
      • 2011-07-21 20222, 2011

      • nikki
        (followed by james brown and john williams both with 12...)
      • 2011-07-21 20233, 2011

      • reosarevok
        nikki: is that diacritic-dependant?
      • 2011-07-21 20236, 2011

      • nikki
        yes
      • 2011-07-21 20241, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • 2011-07-21 20247, 2011

      • nikki
        that's identical names
      • 2011-07-21 20259, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Then there are more Angel than that if you ignore diacritics
      • 2011-07-21 20200, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2011-07-21 20212, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (and probably one more Nemesis)
      • 2011-07-21 20236, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop knows of at least one japanese transcription of eclipse, as well
      • 2011-07-21 20254, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        hmm. looks like I can't use the WD TV Live box as a squeezebox client without rooting it :/
      • 2011-07-21 20257, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        at which point I might as well just install mpd and scrobble natively ;)
      • 2011-07-21 20209, 2011

      • hawke_
        Jesus christ the basic editor is SLOOW
      • 2011-07-21 20258, 2011

      • reosarevok
        hawke_: isn't everything?
      • 2011-07-21 20217, 2011

      • hawke_
        reosarevok: eh?
      • 2011-07-21 20239, 2011

      • reosarevok
        like, everything in the RE is slow, isn't it?
      • 2011-07-21 20252, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Not only the basic tracklist
      • 2011-07-21 20203, 2011

      • hawke_
        Oh. No, it’s fine if you use the advanced editor.
      • 2011-07-21 20214, 2011

      • hawke_
        And I don’t mind if a page takes awhile to load
      • 2011-07-21 20229, 2011

      • hawke_
        but when a simple text editor takes tens of seconds to display text I type?
      • 2011-07-21 20233, 2011

      • hawke_
        That’s bad.
      • 2011-07-21 20243, 2011

      • reosarevok
        hawke_: that's because it's not a simple text editor
      • 2011-07-21 20249, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Which it *should* be
      • 2011-07-21 20203, 2011

      • hawke_
        reosarevok: Depends on perspective. :-)
      • 2011-07-21 20231, 2011

      • reosarevok
        It's to a simple text form what MS Word to a text editor
      • 2011-07-21 20239, 2011

      • hawke_
        hah
      • 2011-07-21 20250, 2011

      • reosarevok
        It tries to do too much too cleverly and it doesn't help
      • 2011-07-21 20200, 2011

      • reosarevok thinks he lacks a Clippo though
      • 2011-07-21 20201, 2011

      • hawke_
        I’ll disagree there, given that it doesn’t do anything clever at all. :-p
      • 2011-07-21 20223, 2011

      • hawke_
        I mean, yeah, there’s a little bit of parsing to generate the preview on the right
      • 2011-07-21 20248, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, that's what I mean
      • 2011-07-21 20254, 2011

      • hawke_
        But as far as I can tell it must do it much too often and must be doing something ridiculously badly.
      • 2011-07-21 20215, 2011

      • hawke_
        it can’t be that hard to split on a dash, can it? :-p
      • 2011-07-21 20236, 2011

      • hawke_
        (and drop a number off the first position, if appropriate)
      • 2011-07-21 20236, 2011

      • reosarevok
        hawke_: what it does ridiculously badly is parsing all the time instead of waiting for you to tell it "ok, now go and parse"
      • 2011-07-21 20234, 2011

      • hawke_
        Even if it parses on every keystroke, split("-") is *not* that heavy-duty.
      • 2011-07-21 20220, 2011

      • hawke_
        And yeah, it needs to do a bit more than that, I’m sure.
      • 2011-07-21 20245, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop just doesn't ever use the basic editor at all
      • 2011-07-21 20206, 2011

      • hawke_
        I honestly don’t understand why the basic editor exists as such
      • 2011-07-21 20208, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        copy/pasting field by field from a text tracklisting is less frustrating.
      • 2011-07-21 20217, 2011

      • reosarevok does, for parsing
      • 2011-07-21 20223, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But that's why I want a parser
      • 2011-07-21 20228, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Not this :)
      • 2011-07-21 20235, 2011

      • hawke_
        reosarevok: Yeah, I’d rather have the advanced editor by default
      • 2011-07-21 20255, 2011

      • hawke_
        and then have a “import from text" feature which brings up the “basic” editor.
      • 2011-07-21 20208, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        you know what someone should make? a userscript that adds an optionally viewable parser box to the advanced editor, then fills in the fields from it when you hit parse :)
      • 2011-07-21 20213, 2011

      • reosarevok would like having the basic editor as default for adds, and the advanced for edits
      • 2011-07-21 20209, 2011

      • kepstin-laptop
        I wonder if you can read from the clipboard in javascript nowadays - if so, it could just be a single button "parse from clipboard"
      • 2011-07-21 20229, 2011

      • reosarevok
        kepstin-laptop: no, it couldn't
      • 2011-07-21 20242, 2011

      • reosarevok
        bandcamp, itunes, etc give you the data formatted in lots of lines