#musicbrainz

Probably the work/recording, too…

yes, it would be…weren't all release tags moved to release groups?

Or maybe just make it configurable, though that seems like unnecessary complexity

I mean, you can tag releases, but I haven't seen any release tags anywhere, so I figured they were moved

bitmap: Probably

release tags were migrated to release grouos

groups too.

It’s a shame that you can’t have “not” tags.

yeah, not sure why that was done

so you could tag a release with 'foo' and then tag an individual track with '!foo'

(I can see why it was done, but it makes all the "I wanted to fix this" tags go to RGs)

bitmap: it was because it was hard (impossible?) to know to which of the new releases they referred

it could've kept the release tags, but just combined them all for the RG

and various other things

originally releases didn't have tags at all

but I complained because releases are core entities so there's no reason why they shouldn't :P

You mean originally as in "originally" or as in "for NGS"?

and then I think we kept the migration to release groups because of the ones which are genres :/

originally in ngs

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Does anyone know why this page no longer exists? http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Recording_and_...

Does anyone know why multi-disc releases get the Record Label entered multiple times into the recordlabel field and the Catalog Numbers for every disc tagged into every file instead of just the correct Cat Number each file belongs to?

bitmap, this is for you

nikki: the previous one might be for you

I was just looking at it

It's linked from other pages still

zexpe: fixed

let me know if you find any others like that

Thanks

kccourier: catalog numbers aren't associated with dics

kccourier: I think the record label bug is fixed, but not in the current beta

I figured that out, but it's frustrating when a four disc box set has the actual catalog number for each individual disc entered in NGS which results in every single file getting tagged with all the listed catalog numbers. Maybe most people won't notice but my naming scheme results in some really long folder names with incorrect data

The catalognumber field for Fleetwood Mac's "The Complete Blue Horizn Sessions: 1967-1969" gets tagged with "73003-273003-2(1)73003-2(2)73003-2(3)73003-2(4)73003-2(5)73003-2(6)

73003-2 is the cat number one the outside of the box with 73003-2(1) for disc 1 and 73003-2(2) for disc 2 and so on....

Maybe there is nothing that can be done about this and I will just have to teach myself enough python to script my own solution. I just wanted someone to be aware that there was an issue at least to me.. Thanks for the response

Something should certainly be done about it, as linking each cat# with its medium is more useful info and more useful info is always good for the DB (even if it didn't affect tagging)

It would be nice however if the string would have some type of separator between the different cat numbers when they are strung together into the field

that would make scripting a solution for my naming scheme easier

just in case: is there a reason for these to be separate? http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14819291

hi! can some auto-editor approve this failed edit (modbot): http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14814488 ?

failed edit?

yes :-(

linked to the identical failed one in the edit notes...

ah

done

luks: now that I catch you :-). Can you merge my plugin merge request in bazaar?

it always surprises me that the Approve button doesn't require confirmation

luks: thanks a lot!

uh oh

link? :)

merged, I think that the merge request should close automatically

thanks again!

maybe of interest to someone: I wrote to BBC how long they need to adapt to NGS, and they wrote "all should be sorted and back to normal

in the next couple of months"

exciting :)

well, I thought it wouldn't need that long :-(

large companies have complicated processes

pecastro who is sometimes in #musicbrainz-devel is working for the BBC dealing with the NGS setup

yes, but obviously that says much about how much they really need the musicbrainz service...

(live feed)

luks: on other notes, acoustid-fingerprinter fails to build since 3 weeks or something...

it seems like a problem between cmake and a new Qt release

CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:91 (MESSAGE):

Could NOT find Qt4 (missing: QT_QTCONCURRENT_INCLUDE_DIR QT_QTCONCURRENT_LIBRARY) (found version "4.7.3")

hmm

I'm running Debian Sid with libqt4 4.7.3-5

I don't know what could be the problem, but the Qt module is a part of the CMake library

it doesn't need QtConcurrent anymore though, so maybe just removing it will fix the problem

maybe

I tried to google the error, but no success

might it be that debian split the package and you don't have it installed?

hmm, I don't think so... I have installed all available libqt4 -dev packages...

never really got warm with cmake... I still like autoconf :-)

you actually develop projects that use autoconf?

sometimes automake is really just the best tool for the job

been around forever; doesn't require any extra tools installed for someone to 'just compile' a package.

especially of course C programs that need to run on various Unix-like systems... for this case it is the best

well, you have to download 1+ MB extra source code in the project tarball :)

hehe :-)

I find autotools painful, but the only reason why I use cmake is that it works well on unix, has a clicky-clicky way to generate IDE projects and can build OS X frameworks

so I don't have to deal with multiple build systems

huh? why would you have to download extra source code in the tarball?

yes, I think if I had to support Windows/Linux/OS X I wouldn't use autoconf either...

well, the configure script can get kind of big, but not /that/ big.

that, and I don't like IDEs and have never owned an OS X machine.

kepstin-laptop: well, I think if you have a fully autoconfigred project (libtool+gettext), it can be really big (but of course 1M+ was an exaggeration :-))

especially libtool needs so many helper programs

the last project that used autotools was taglib, the configure script has 750KB

I'm sure I can find enough autotools code in the tarball to add up to 1MB

wow, I wouldn't have thought that

but luckily bzip2 does a good job for this kind of data!

the modern hip compression format to use in the linux world is xz (an updated lzma2)

yes, but I use autoconf because I have/want to support many Unix-like systems, so xz archives are sometimes a little cumbersome

but yeah, the worst thing are the hand-rolled build systems.

I really hate a build system where 'make DESTDIR=/tmp/somefolder install' doesn't work

yes... my university project uses a huge hand-crafted makefile... fun!

but hey, I'm the only person in the world who uses a makefile, a couple of custom command line tools, and a few shell scripts to encode my music files ;)

*encode*?

you mean rip?

no, I use EAC to rip ;)

(to cue+wav, which is the input to my other scripts)

wasn't you happily ignoring windows? :)

does it even work good in LAME?

I didn't trust that, because of all the hardware layers...

luks: ju!! your github commit fixed the compile problem!

kepstin-laptop, why not just have EAC encode to FLAC?

Also, I totally use shell scripts and the like to maintain lossy encodes of my music. :P

any of you know if it's possitlbe to get facebook support on irc? :P

i can't see any official contact scheme anywhere..

I can understand it, or they'd be flooded with hate mail, seeing how each change they do makes it worse

reosarevok, they should have support for pages :\

Why? They obviously earn millions without it :p

their help center is great, but it doesn't answer my specific question

I think they have a question center, but it seems mostly user-to-user and full of hate mail

Who's going to go to Portishead in Seattle in October? :P

Leftmost: no in seattle.

and the tour dates in cali conflict with GSoc mentor summit and the MB summit. :-(

Sad. :(

It would be cool to be able to do the MB Summit.

ruaok: I don't suppose you know how to turn off all sounds on the phone other than the alarm?

silent mode does that.

the alarm still works.

and irkingly the sound of the fake shutter the phone makes.

makes taking pictures at take-off and landing much more dicey. :)

hm, how do I know if I have silent mode on?

upper right hand side would have a shaking phone icon.