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      • aeontech
        I'm just getting "This merge strategy is not applicable to the releases you have selected."
      • 2011-05-17 13751, 2011

      • aeontech
        when i try to merge
      • 2011-05-17 13757, 2011

      • nikki
        someone already reported that
      • 2011-05-17 13704, 2011

      • nikki
        including flamingspinach a few lines up ;)
      • 2011-05-17 13712, 2011

      • aeontech
        reported it being confusing?
      • 2011-05-17 13712, 2011

      • ruaok
        hi aeontech
      • 2011-05-17 13717, 2011

      • aeontech
        or not working?
      • 2011-05-17 13720, 2011

      • reosarevok
        not working
      • 2011-05-17 13722, 2011

      • aeontech
        ok
      • 2011-05-17 13727, 2011

      • aeontech
        well the ui is terrible :)
      • 2011-05-17 13746, 2011

      • aeontech
        if i was a new user, I would have no idea what "This merge strategy will merge all mediums together into a single set of mediums." could possibly mean
      • 2011-05-17 13747, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Well, it seems you got the idea right, it should just work
      • 2011-05-17 13759, 2011

      • aeontech
        even as an old-timer I have only a faint guess as to what it's going to do
      • 2011-05-17 13703, 2011

      • aeontech
        hehe
      • 2011-05-17 13714, 2011

      • aeontech
        hey ruaok :)
      • 2011-05-17 13716, 2011

      • reosarevok
        aeontech: agreed, although new users probably won't be merging part-of-set things
      • 2011-05-17 13706, 2011

      • aeontech
        ruaok: babysitting the migration?
      • 2011-05-17 13715, 2011

      • ruaok
        the migration is done.
      • 2011-05-17 13729, 2011

      • ruaok
        now just watching the logs for errors and fixing them or reporting them.
      • 2011-05-17 13738, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        yeah, why are they called "mediums" instead of "parts" or something?
      • 2011-05-17 13743, 2011

      • ruaok
        we have a meeting about 3 hours to decide to go live or else
      • 2011-05-17 13703, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        when you say "a release has multiple mediums" I would think it to mean that it was released on CD, vinyl, and MP3 or something like that
      • 2011-05-17 13714, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        not that there were three discs
      • 2011-05-17 13733, 2011

      • aeontech
        ah nice
      • 2011-05-17 13746, 2011

      • aeontech
        flamingspinach: yeah exactly
      • 2011-05-17 13712, 2011

      • nikki
        I would use discs, but then people complain because they're not always discs :/
      • 2011-05-17 13714, 2011

      • aeontech
        flamingspinach: plus not having the disc title above each tracklisting makes it impossible to tell which disc is first at a glance
      • 2011-05-17 13729, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        nikki: how's "parts"? it's not being used for anything else, is it?
      • 2011-05-17 13741, 2011

      • aeontech
        nikki: i'd take people complaining at expense of clarity for 95% of use cases :)
      • 2011-05-17 13753, 2011

      • nikki
        aeontech: I would too, but it's not my decision :/
      • 2011-05-17 13756, 2011

      • aeontech
        hehe
      • 2011-05-17 13708, 2011

      • reosarevok
        flamingspinach: yeah, for tracks which are several parts ;)
      • 2011-05-17 13716, 2011

      • nikki
        parts also sounds like volumes
      • 2011-05-17 13725, 2011

      • nikki
        like if you release something in three parts
      • 2011-05-17 13736, 2011

      • aeontech
        hm
      • 2011-05-17 13752, 2011

      • reosarevok doesn't think "release" is an obvious word either, and it works
      • 2011-05-17 13700, 2011

      • aeontech
        well if we know what the medium is, (ie, release medium is a cd), we just say merge these discs, if it's tapes, we say merge these tapes, etc.
      • 2011-05-17 13709, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (well, it kinda is now, definitely not in the previous MB)
      • 2011-05-17 13740, 2011

      • aeontech
        i mean we had (disc 1) in the title before, not (medium 1)
      • 2011-05-17 13747, 2011

      • aeontech
        and nobody was complaining about that
      • 2011-05-17 13759, 2011

      • aeontech
        or at least i don't imagine anybody would be
      • 2011-05-17 13746, 2011

      • nikki
        aeontech: oh, some people did
      • 2011-05-17 13758, 2011

      • aeontech
        ha
      • 2011-05-17 13706, 2011

      • aeontech
        (as an aside, "merge these mediums" scans really oddly... if you want to stick with medium i'd change it to "merge these media".)
      • 2011-05-17 13718, 2011

      • aeontech
        i guess people will complain about anything :)
      • 2011-05-17 13721, 2011

      • nikki prefers mediums :P
      • 2011-05-17 13724, 2011

      • aeontech
        hehe
      • 2011-05-17 13731, 2011

      • aeontech
        at least we don't have to contend with deletionists like wikipedia does
      • 2011-05-17 13732, 2011

      • aeontech
        thank god
      • 2011-05-17 13748, 2011

      • aeontech
        "This album is not notable enough to be in musicbrainz"
      • 2011-05-17 13752, 2011

      • reosarevok goes remove 50 non-notable releases
      • 2011-05-17 13752, 2011

      • aeontech
        i can just imagine
      • 2011-05-17 13700, 2011

      • nikki
        grr, wikipedia
      • 2011-05-17 13738, 2011

      • nikki
        although it mostly seems to be the english one
      • 2011-05-17 13750, 2011

      • aeontech
        ruaok: so is editing enabled, I can add releases and such on ngs.mb now?
      • 2011-05-17 13700, 2011

      • reosarevok
        aeontech: if you dare…
      • 2011-05-17 13703, 2011

      • ruaok
        yep.
      • 2011-05-17 13708, 2011

      • aeontech
        ok
      • 2011-05-17 13718, 2011

      • ruaok
        reosarevok: come cut us a break. its not *that* bad.
      • 2011-05-17 13725, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2011-05-17 13729, 2011

      • aeontech
        oh, so how does the new "Artist vs Artist" and so on track credits work now?
      • 2011-05-17 13735, 2011

      • reosarevok will say he added 2 without problems
      • 2011-05-17 13745, 2011

      • nikki failed to add one :/
      • 2011-05-17 13757, 2011

      • reosarevok will also say, though, that they were all 1-disc, 1-artist
      • 2011-05-17 13758, 2011

      • aeontech
        i heard something vaguely about not having to create collaboration artists with 1 track to their name any longer
      • 2011-05-17 13708, 2011

      • aeontech
        is that in this release, or still in planning?
      • 2011-05-17 13712, 2011

      • reosarevok
        It is here
      • 2011-05-17 13750, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (you have to use the arrows by the artist if it is for release, and I'm actually not sure how it works in the basic tracklist for tracks because I just use the advanced one)
      • 2011-05-17 13711, 2011

      • aeontech
        what order is date field in now?
      • 2011-05-17 13716, 2011

      • aeontech
        yyyy-mm-dd or yyyy-dd-mm?
      • 2011-05-17 13721, 2011

      • aeontech
        there's no hint
      • 2011-05-17 13732, 2011

      • reosarevok reported that
      • 2011-05-17 13738, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Same as it was
      • 2011-05-17 13744, 2011

      • aeontech
        k
      • 2011-05-17 13726, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        does anyone use yyyy-dd-mm?
      • 2011-05-17 13736, 2011

      • nikki
        not that I know of
      • 2011-05-17 13702, 2011

      • reosarevok
        flamingspinach: probably not, but we use dd-mm-yyyy and I this order always confused me
      • 2011-05-17 13711, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Having it clearly stated never hurts
      • 2011-05-17 13731, 2011

      • nikki
        ages ago I wrote some simple js thing that tries to parse any (numeric) date you give it
      • 2011-05-17 13736, 2011

      • nikki
        but it didn't make it into ngs :/
      • 2011-05-17 13743, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (especially because at the moment the fields are not length-limited either, so you can enter 4 numbers anywhere)
      • 2011-05-17 13748, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (it will complain, but you can)
      • 2011-05-17 13755, 2011

      • aeontech
        ack
      • 2011-05-17 13759, 2011

      • aeontech
        what happened to the track parser
      • 2011-05-17 13709, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Everything is the track parser now
      • 2011-05-17 13719, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Just paste the tracklist where it says tracklist
      • 2011-05-17 13738, 2011

      • aeontech
        there is no field for tracklist in advanced editor
      • 2011-05-17 13743, 2011

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2011-05-17 13746, 2011

      • aeontech
        least i don't see it
      • 2011-05-17 13749, 2011

      • aeontech
        ?
      • 2011-05-17 13758, 2011

      • reosarevok didn't think of that
      • 2011-05-17 13703, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Paste it on the basic one :)
      • 2011-05-17 13720, 2011

      • nikki
        I noticed that
      • 2011-05-17 13720, 2011

      • aeontech
        that works
      • 2011-05-17 13729, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        we use dd-mm-yyyy?? why?
      • 2011-05-17 13737, 2011

      • flamingspinach
      • 2011-05-17 13739, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (but yeah, there should be. jira it)
      • 2011-05-17 13746, 2011

      • reosarevok
        flamingspinach: "we" as in "we Spanish people"
      • 2011-05-17 13748, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Not MB
      • 2011-05-17 13750, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        oh :P
      • 2011-05-17 13701, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        yeah, much of europe uses dd/mm/yyyy
      • 2011-05-17 13706, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        and the US uses mm/dd/yyyy
      • 2011-05-17 13718, 2011

      • Leftmost
        Bah. What are the guidelines if a band changes its name at some point? Especially if their old material is re-released under the new name at a later date.
      • 2011-05-17 13729, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Leftmost: use artist credits
      • 2011-05-17 13731, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :D
      • 2011-05-17 13734, 2011

      • aeontech
        hm
      • 2011-05-17 13742, 2011

      • aeontech
        what is the "recordings" step for?
      • 2011-05-17 13753, 2011

      • reosarevok
      • 2011-05-17 13700, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (and recording and work below it)
      • 2011-05-17 13724, 2011

      • aeontech
        ok, another question, what about when it's Track (Artist Remix) - Another Artist
      • 2011-05-17 13739, 2011

      • aeontech
        do I add the remixing artist in the "artist credit" field as secondary?
      • 2011-05-17 13747, 2011

      • reosarevok
        AFAIK that didn't change, it keeps being attributed to another artist
      • 2011-05-17 13705, 2011

      • aeontech
        k
      • 2011-05-17 13709, 2011

      • reosarevok
        And you add Artist as a remixer (at the recording level)
      • 2011-05-17 13718, 2011

      • aeontech
        hm ok
      • 2011-05-17 13720, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (I think it was recording level)
      • 2011-05-17 13721, 2011

      • Leftmost
        Hmm. The specific example I'm looking at is American Nightmare, who later changed their name to Give Up the Ghost. So should all of their releases be placed under Give Up the Ghost, with albums (e.g. "Background Music") released under American Nightmare with that artist credit? And then what about re-releases of Background Music using the name Give Up the Ghost?
      • 2011-05-17 13723, 2011

      • aeontech
        let me try
      • 2011-05-17 13757, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Leftmost: How many releases did they make as AN?
      • 2011-05-17 13707, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Most of them? A couple?
      • 2011-05-17 13751, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Leftmost: normally, I'd say yeah, put all under GUtG and use AN as artist credit for those
      • 2011-05-17 13709, 2011

      • Leftmost
        Well, there are a number of 7" released under both names, with one full-length album released under either one.
      • 2011-05-17 13729, 2011

      • nikki
      • 2011-05-17 13735, 2011

      • aeontech
        hm
      • 2011-05-17 13752, 2011

      • Leftmost
        Hurray for the US.
      • 2011-05-17 13715, 2011

      • aeontech
        this is very odd
      • 2011-05-17 13726, 2011

      • flamingspinach has left the channel
      • 2011-05-17 13730, 2011

      • flamingspinach joined the channel
      • 2011-05-17 13736, 2011

      • aeontech
        if I try to go back to tracklist step and modify the credits, it does not remember my changes when I go to next step again
      • 2011-05-17 13744, 2011

      • aeontech
        nor the changes to track names
      • 2011-05-17 13711, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :/
      • 2011-05-17 13716, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Odd indeed
      • 2011-05-17 13726, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Did you select "change track artist" on Release Information?
      • 2011-05-17 13700, 2011

      • aeontech
        no
      • 2011-05-17 13714, 2011

      • aeontech
        i am still in the process of adding the release
      • 2011-05-17 13714, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (that would be a known bug)
      • 2011-05-17 13716, 2011

      • aeontech
        ie, it's not coplete
      • 2011-05-17 13728, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Hmm, then I am not sure…
      • 2011-05-17 13759, 2011

      • aeontech
        unless it's just using the data in the "basic editor" fields and ignoring any changes in the "advanced editor" view
      • 2011-05-17 13721, 2011

      • aeontech
        nope
      • 2011-05-17 13728, 2011

      • aeontech
        it's ignoring my changes altogether
      • 2011-05-17 13726, 2011

      • aeontech
        ok i guess i'll try to abandon it and restart
      • 2011-05-17 13729, 2011

      • reosarevok
        That kinda-maybe should not happen
      • 2011-05-17 13738, 2011

      • reosarevok
        YEah, try again and see what happens…
      • 2011-05-17 13754, 2011

      • Leftmost
        reosarevok, probably create an alias under GUtG for AN as well.
      • 2011-05-17 13706, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Leftmost: probably
      • 2011-05-17 13724, 2011

      • aeontech
        also, the label autocomplete throws away your info if it finds no results and you try to tab out of it
      • 2011-05-17 13720, 2011

      • aeontech
        also now I get this error message at the top of the Tracklist step:
      • 2011-05-17 13721, 2011

      • aeontech
        Warning: There were one or more errors, please check the following fields: 0
      • 2011-05-17 13753, 2011

      • aeontech
        *me cries*