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      • warp
        or something like that.
      • 2011-05-16 13634, 2011

      • nikki
        although to be honest, I'd expect the edition stuff to mostly go in comments
      • 2011-05-16 13655, 2011

      • jesus2099
        flamingspinach: the only option now if you want to keep using Picard is http://musicbrainz.uservoice.com/forums/12526/sug…
      • 2011-05-16 13657, 2011

      • warp
        yeah, depends on how clearly it is part of the title. I agree it would usually go in the comments.
      • 2011-05-16 13628, 2011

      • nikki
        hmm...
      • 2011-05-16 13642, 2011

      • warp
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      • warp
        hm, not that clear on the cover images.
      • 2011-05-16 13635, 2011

      • nikki
        I can only really think of ones where the same thing has been released with multiple titles
      • 2011-05-16 13645, 2011

      • warp
        nikki: that'd be fine
      • 2011-05-16 13637, 2011

      • nikki
        http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=14443970 is one I found earlier, but since it's the same tracklist, we don't have two releases yet
      • 2011-05-16 13652, 2011

      • warp remembers http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/8b3d1836-e3cd-35eb-a8cd-d03d56bcc6f8.html
      • 2011-05-16 13601, 2011

      • nikki
        that'd work
      • 2011-05-16 13649, 2011

      • srotta
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      • srotta
        Of course I don't know what you were looking for exactly 8) Then there's stuff such as http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/d6807761-b1d… which has regular and Gold version with some added tracks.
      • 2011-05-16 13630, 2011

      • drsaunde
        warp: there's also probably at least a half dozen in Kraftwerk
      • 2011-05-16 13656, 2011

      • warp
        ok
      • 2011-05-16 13600, 2011

      • warp has settled on autechre.
      • 2011-05-16 13603, 2011

      • symphonick
        ESTRAGON: Charming spot. Inspiring prospects. Let's go.
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      • symphonick
        VLADIMIR: We can't.
      • 2011-05-16 13618, 2011

      • symphonick
        ESTRAGON: Why not?
      • 2011-05-16 13622, 2011

      • symphonick
        VLADIMIR: We're waiting for Godot.
      • 2011-05-16 13628, 2011

      • symphonick
        ESTRAGON: Ah! You're sure it was here?
      • 2011-05-16 13634, 2011

      • symphonick
        VLADIMIR: What?
      • 2011-05-16 13639, 2011

      • symphonick
        ESTRAGON: That we were to wait.
      • 2011-05-16 13659, 2011

      • symphonick
        VLADIMIR: What are you insinuating? That we've come to the wrong place?
      • 2011-05-16 13604, 2011

      • symphonick
        ESTRAGON: He should be here.
      • 2011-05-16 13611, 2011

      • symphonick
        VLADIMIR: He didn't say for sure he'd come.
      • 2011-05-16 13617, 2011

      • symphonick
        ESTRAGON: And if he doesn't come?
      • 2011-05-16 13625, 2011

      • symphonick
        VLADIMIR: We'll come back tomorrow.
      • 2011-05-16 13631, 2011

      • symphonick
        ESTRAGON: And then the day after tomorrow.
      • 2011-05-16 13637, 2011

      • symphonick
        VLADIMIR: Possibly.
      • 2011-05-16 13643, 2011

      • symphonick
        ESTRAGON: And so on.
      • 2011-05-16 13654, 2011

      • symphonick
        ESTRAGON: Until he comes.
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      • flamingspinach
        oh hey, it's time for the switchover isn't it
      • 2011-05-16 13656, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        or was, about an hour ago
      • 2011-05-16 13618, 2011

      • flamingspinach
        still 57+ open edits though :<
      • 2011-05-16 13633, 2011

      • drsaunde
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      • flamingspinach
        whoops, haha
      • 2011-05-16 13619, 2011

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      • ocharles
        flamingspinach: edits get closed in the next hour or so
      • 2011-05-16 13651, 2011

      • ocharles
        warp: i'm having a big autechre phase atm :)
      • 2011-05-16 13605, 2011

      • ocharles
        I'm finally enjoying Quaristrice and Oversteps
      • 2011-05-16 13611, 2011

      • warp
        ocharles: haha, that stuff takes some time indeed.
      • 2011-05-16 13628, 2011

      • ocharles
        you just have to give a listen with your concentration
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      • ocharles
        murdos: new data on ngs.mb
      • 2011-05-16 13630, 2011

      • ocharles
        murdos: http://ngs.musicbrainz.org/artist/2334787c-a3d6-4… see Edit #12322359 - I think this means the artist credit stuff has worked?
      • 2011-05-16 13638, 2011

      • ocharles
        nikki, warp, reosarevok, eyes from you would be great as well
      • 2011-05-16 13646, 2011

      • ocharles
        murdos_: ping to this account name too
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      • omgyja
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      • nikki
        looks like churruka got the last pre-ngs edit
      • 2011-05-16 13643, 2011

      • nikki
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      • luks
        (hopefully)
      • 2011-05-16 13644, 2011

      • nikki
        hopefully :)
      • 2011-05-16 13604, 2011

      • reosarevok likes how the last edit was on a Spanish-language release
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      • jesus2099 cheering on those guys who are now upgrading Musicbrainz !
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      • jesus2099
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      • nikki
        it's surreal o_o
      • 2011-05-16 13642, 2011

      • jesus2099
        it’s funny
      • 2011-05-16 13605, 2011

      • nikki
        for some definitions of funny :P
      • 2011-05-16 13612, 2011

      • jesus2099
        it’s rather like “omoshiroi”
      • 2011-05-16 13652, 2011

      • jesus2099
        I wish I could have a USB pedals and I could pedal to help you guys.
      • 2011-05-16 13609, 2011

      • jesus2099 pedaling _/‾
      • 2011-05-16 13616, 2011

      • jesus2099 pedaling ---
      • 2011-05-16 13623, 2011

      • jesus2099 pedaling ‾_
      • 2011-05-16 13645, 2011

      • lidel should hit F5 at the slower rate ;-)
      • 2011-05-16 13606, 2011

      • luks
        set it to 24h :)
      • 2011-05-16 13622, 2011

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      • jesus2099
        Y(^o^;)Y
      • 2011-05-16 13621, 2011

      • jesus2099
        jesus2099 has changed the topic to: NGS is coming today: http://blog.musicbrainz.org/?p=830 | http://musicbrainz.org | Logs at http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/musicbrainz | Server dev talks in #musicbrainz-devel
      • 2011-05-16 13632, 2011

      • jesus2099
        héhé ↗
      • 2011-05-16 13610, 2011

      • jesus2099
        BBQ
      • 2011-05-16 13651, 2011

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      • navap_
        I'd love to be able to see clueless user's reactions as they browse to musicbrainz.org and see the new site.
      • 2011-05-16 13639, 2011

      • reosarevok
        navap_: you'll see them
      • 2011-05-16 13641, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Well, read them
      • 2011-05-16 13652, 2011

      • reosarevok
        "WAT IZ DAT OLD MB IZ BETTA"
      • 2011-05-16 13644, 2011

      • Leftmost
        My experience is that people will bitch unceasingly for a little while, until they settle down and see it's actually an improvement.
      • 2011-05-16 13657, 2011

      • navap_
        Heh, I dunno about that. I actually think the first impression is going to be a pretty good one
      • 2011-05-16 13621, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Which is good, because that gives us the time to fix the unfinished / unstable things during the period in which they would be complaining anyway
      • 2011-05-16 13636, 2011

      • Leftmost
        navap_, I'm basing my theory on seeing what happened with the GNOME 3 release, and the knowledge that people don't like change.
      • 2011-05-16 13640, 2011

      • nikki wonders how many duplicates we'll get for relate ..., the edit search, etc
      • 2011-05-16 13620, 2011

      • caller_6
        I'd like to go back and find the first instance of an edit note that says, "Wait 'til NGS" or the equivalent.
      • 2011-05-16 13655, 2011

      • nikki
        I can grep moderation_note_closed if you like :P
      • 2011-05-16 13604, 2011

      • navap_
        Leftmost: Of course, but come on, have you seen our current home page? :)
      • 2011-05-16 13644, 2011

      • Leftmost
        navap_, I still think there'll be a Reluctant Switchers faction. :P
      • 2011-05-16 13652, 2011

      • nikki said to rob that the "don't enter edits!" warning should be as ugly as possible, so people appreciate ngs more :P
      • 2011-05-16 13604, 2011

      • Leftmost
        lol
      • 2011-05-16 13606, 2011

      • navap_
        Haha
      • 2011-05-16 13608, 2011

      • reosarevok
        navap_: old last.fm was fugly and people still complained
      • 2011-05-16 13648, 2011

      • navap_
        Really? Hmm, I don't remember the old site now.
      • 2011-05-16 13611, 2011

      • nikki
        caller_6: now grepping 649mb of edit notes :P
      • 2011-05-16 13613, 2011

      • navap_
        Time heals everything
      • 2011-05-16 13637, 2011

      • nikki
        except probably a fear of death :P
      • 2011-05-16 13650, 2011

      • nikki
        time probably just makes that worse
      • 2011-05-16 13651, 2011

      • navap_
        Haha
      • 2011-05-16 13609, 2011

      • reosarevok
        nikki: 649mb of notes?
      • 2011-05-16 13615, 2011

      • reosarevok
        And 4.8 gb of edits?
      • 2011-05-16 13617, 2011

      • nikki
        yep
      • 2011-05-16 13627, 2011

      • reosarevok
        How big the edits are? :o
      • 2011-05-16 13603, 2011

      • navap_
        Not each edit will have a note though
      • 2011-05-16 13630, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Sadly
      • 2011-05-16 13633, 2011

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      • nikki
        http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5431345 seems to be the first instance of "ngs", although I'm sure we had earlier references to schemas that solve everything
      • 2011-05-16 13655, 2011

      • nikki giggles at http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6245354
      • 2011-05-16 13615, 2011

      • reosarevok
        oh, the first NGS mention is for an Estonian artist and the last edit before NGS for a release in Spanish
      • 2011-05-16 13616, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Me likes
      • 2011-05-16 13631, 2011

      • nikki
        that's not the first mention
      • 2011-05-16 13640, 2011

      • nikki
        that just amused me because of the note
      • 2011-05-16 13655, 2011

      • nikki
        where is it? almost here! :D
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      • reosarevok
        But you said "seems to be the first instance of ngs"!
      • 2011-05-16 13632, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :p
      • 2011-05-16 13654, 2011

      • nikki
        I linked two edits...
      • 2011-05-16 13613, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Oh, I looked at the wrong one :D
      • 2011-05-16 13638, 2011

      • nikki
        :)
      • 2011-05-16 13649, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Well, I like the Sisters too
      • 2011-05-16 13650, 2011

      • navap_
        It's been ~5 years since the first NGS mention in an edit note. So we've been talking about it for almost half of musicbrainz.org's existence!
      • 2011-05-16 13633, 2011

      • nikki
        and for the other half, we were talking about it under a different name ;)
      • 2011-05-16 13652, 2011

      • nikki
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      • nikki
        october 2005
      • 2011-05-16 13655, 2011

      • reosarevok
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      • pankkake
        Previous documents addressing those changes are (some only of historical interest):
      • 2011-05-16 13639, 2011

      • pankkake
        *
      • 2011-05-16 13642, 2011

      • pankkake
        SchemaVersion2 (very early proposal from late 2001)
      • 2011-05-16 13629, 2011

      • luks remembers the DB schema image from Access (or whatever it was)
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      • luks
        boo
      • 2011-05-16 13629, 2011

      • luks
        it got corrupted :(
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      • luks
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      • reosarevok
        luks: nah, that's art
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      • nikki
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      • nikki
        and thanks :D I was looking for it but couldn't remember where it was