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      • reosarevok
        VxJasonxV: did you get any of the replies you needed for the Bandcamp relationship?
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      • rodrigo
        hey, i'm needing a help
      • 2011-05-27 14700, 2011

      • rodrigo
        i downloaded the database dumps, and need to import them into a postgres database
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      • rodrigo
        i'm using the scripts in your git to create the tables and such
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      • rodrigo
        but the script does not create the tables i need
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      • reosarevok
        rodrigo: you might get help more quickly in #musicbrainz-devel
      • 2011-05-27 14758, 2011

      • rodrigo
        ok, thanks
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      • ocharles
        nikki: I'm still having difficulty tracking that bug down, but it appears the cookie gets cleared. very strange
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      • vaguerant
        Dremora, you around currently, wanted to ask about your foobar MB component quickly.
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      • Dremora
        vaguerant: yep, I'm here
      • 2011-05-27 14730, 2011

      • vaguerant
        I was just wondering if you had any interest in adding check boxes for all the tags you're sourcing from MB, e.g. Total tracks, Band, Composer, etc.; personally I only use a few tags--artist, album, track, title, date. Obviously I can remove them myself after grabbing tags from MB, but it'd be nice to just ignore those tags I don't need from the outset.
      • 2011-05-27 14703, 2011

      • Dremora
        actually I was thinking about it, so yes
      • 2011-05-27 14743, 2011

      • vaguerant
        Great, I'll look forward to it. Only just grabbed the extension, already makes things infinitely more convenient, so my thanks.
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      • dubwai
        If in Various artist album track doesn't have artist it must be VA? http://www.ebreggae.com/SupersizedImage.asp?Image…
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      • dubwai
        2.
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      • reosarevok
        dubwai: you can use [no artist] if there's *really* no artist
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      • reosarevok
        dubwai: or [unknown] if you just don't know it
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      • dubwai
        it's "version"
      • 2011-05-27 14745, 2011

      • reosarevok looks
      • 2011-05-27 14737, 2011

      • reosarevok
        dubwai: Is the link correct?
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      • dubwai
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      • reosarevok
        Seeing that, the artist seems either Skateland Killer or Frenchie
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      • dubwai
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      • reosarevok would use [unknown]
      • 2011-05-27 14755, 2011

      • dubwai
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      • dubwai
        or mb no artist ;-)
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      • reosarevok
        Hmm
      • 2011-05-27 14740, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Seeing that, it seems it's just the riddim with no deejay
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      • reosarevok
        So I'd say [unknown] or, most likely, Frenchie
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      • dubwai
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      • dubwai
        i use it
      • 2011-05-27 14757, 2011

      • dubwai
        hmmmm
      • 2011-05-27 14714, 2011

      • dubwai
        it's a producer and founder of the label
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      • dubwai
        man how do you think title must be "Skateland Killer (version)" or "Skateland Killer" or "Skateland Killer Version"
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      • reosarevok
        Skateland Killer (version)
      • 2011-05-27 14721, 2011

      • dubwai
        thx 4 help
      • 2011-05-27 14725, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I think (version) has a specific meaning in reggae and dub
      • 2011-05-27 14731, 2011

      • dubwai
        yes
      • 2011-05-27 14731, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Although I never remember what it is
      • 2011-05-27 14747, 2011

      • dubwai
        it's only melody without words
      • 2011-05-27 14714, 2011

      • dubwai
        another 2 song in this album have same melody but diffrent words
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I know about riddims :)
      • 2011-05-27 14741, 2011

      • reosarevok
        So "Skateland Killer (version)" is kinda the same as when they just say "Skateland Killer Riddim" as track name then?
      • 2011-05-27 14727, 2011

      • dubwai
        i think no because Riddim is album with many tracks ~10-15 but
      • 2011-05-27 14745, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, I'm used to albums with 10 tracks over one riddim
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      • dubwai
        i don't like it :-)
      • 2011-05-27 14757, 2011

      • reosarevok
        And then a last track called "Whatever Riddim" being just the riddim with no voice
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      • dubwai
        yes
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      • dubwai
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      • dubwai
        on single often use "Version"
      • 2011-05-27 14726, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2011-05-27 14729, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Nice to know
      • 2011-05-27 14711, 2011

      • dubwai
        and according to MB rules I must use "(version)" instead "Version"?
      • 2011-05-27 14740, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I don't know if the rules say anything specific
      • 2011-05-27 14742, 2011

      • reosarevok
        For this issue
      • 2011-05-27 14749, 2011

      • reosarevok
        If not, I'd use whatever they do
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      • dubwai
        ok I will be nice to discuss this and add exactly rule to documentation
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      • dubwai
        how to use vinyl track numbers
      • 2011-05-27 14707, 2011

      • dubwai
        A1. Call Up Jah (3:13) but in Preview 1 Call Up Jah Alborosie 3:13
      • 2011-05-27 14722, 2011

      • dubwai
        in edit box "A1. Call Up Jah (3:13)" but in Preview "1 Call Up Jah Alborosie 3:13"
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      • reosarevok
        dubwai: in no way, still
      • 2011-05-27 14740, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :(
      • 2011-05-27 14745, 2011

      • reosarevok
        That has been requested
      • 2011-05-27 14710, 2011

      • dubwai
        even option have "Enable vinyl track numbers" ?
      • 2011-05-27 14723, 2011

      • dubwai
        it's not workin now?
      • 2011-05-27 14734, 2011

      • reosarevok
        That means "allow the parser to translate A1 and so to 1, 2, 3"
      • 2011-05-27 14702, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But nothing more
      • 2011-05-27 14702, 2011

      • dubwai
        bad :-(
      • 2011-05-27 14707, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I know, I know
      • 2011-05-27 14714, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I have requested it too
      • 2011-05-27 14727, 2011

      • dubwai
        mb link that i may vote?
      • 2011-05-27 14728, 2011

      • ocharles
        it may well come in the next schema update
      • 2011-05-27 14738, 2011

      • reosarevok
        You could add an annotation saying "B side starts on track X"
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      • ocharles
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      • reosarevok
        ocharles: when would that be?
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      • ocharles
        reosarevok: months off
      • 2011-05-27 14703, 2011

      • reosarevok imagined so
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      • ocharles
        we won't be doing schema changes often
      • 2011-05-27 14705, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Is that the same schema change that will include variant names for relationships?
      • 2011-05-27 14727, 2011

      • ocharles
        variant names?
      • 2011-05-27 14734, 2011

      • reosarevok
        "artist credits"
      • 2011-05-27 14744, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (you said they didn't need to be full artist credits or something)
      • 2011-05-27 14707, 2011

      • ocharles
        oh right
      • 2011-05-27 14708, 2011

      • ocharles
        maybe
      • 2011-05-27 14731, 2011

      • reosarevok will stick to the positive idea of maybe being better than no
      • 2011-05-27 14742, 2011

      • ruaok
        ok, I'm AFK til very late monday.
      • 2011-05-27 14744, 2011

      • ruaok
        LIB!
      • 2011-05-27 14754, 2011

      • ruaok waves as he loads the car
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      • ocharles
        reosarevok: it's certainly leaning more towards "yea" than "nope"
      • 2011-05-27 14728, 2011

      • dubwai
        in English "I" always from capital letter?
      • 2011-05-27 14739, 2011

      • ocharles
        yea
      • 2011-05-27 14724, 2011

      • dubwai
        you love yoursefl :-) in Russina language from small letter
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      • reosarevok
        dubwai: in most languages it is
      • 2011-05-27 14731, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But don't expect English to make sense, it never does
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      • Shisma
        hi
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      • Shisma
        i think "performances" should be listed above "cover performances" here: http://musicbrainz.org/work/cc0f543a-b1e2-3822-93…
      • 2011-05-27 14757, 2011

      • Shisma
        but it seems to be alphabetical
      • 2011-05-27 14753, 2011

      • Shisma
        it would be nicer if this screen would illustrate the history of a work
      • 2011-05-27 14749, 2011

      • Shisma
        1. information about creation 2. about performances 3. about covers and tributes
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      • dubwai
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      • VxJasonxV
        oh of COURSE he JUST quit.
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      • VxJasonxV kicks reosarevok
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      • warp
        VxJasonxV: you can still answer though! :)
      • 2011-05-27 14700, 2011

      • warp
        (I'm assuming you were referring to the bandcamp status update reosarevok was asking about earlier today)
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      • VxJasonxV
        correct
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      • VxJasonxV
        the answer is no
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      • VxJasonxV
        Last I heard, ruaok was going to get in touch with them directly. Between that and a lack of answer from the respective individuals (e.g. Bandcamp), I have backed off.
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      • warp
        ok, that makes sense.
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      • hawke_
        (feat.) should be moved to collaboration artist credits now, right?
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      • warp
        hawke_: depends.
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      • warp
        hawke_: there was some opposition to removing the featuring artist style guideline, so that guideline is unchanged, but only applies to recordings.
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      • EM3RY
        uhh, what is the guideline with feat. in a title?
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      • warp
        and the track should be as on cover, so if the cover has (feat. foo), that should be retained in the track title.
      • 2011-05-27 14729, 2011

      • EM3RY
        oh
      • 2011-05-27 14740, 2011

      • hawke_
        So basically “no”?
      • 2011-05-27 14728, 2011

      • warp
        hawke_: no, unless the backcover tracklisting does not have (feat. foo) where our database entry does have it.
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      • warp
        EM3RY: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Recording_and_r… is the guideline which applies to recordings.
      • 2011-05-27 14719, 2011

      • EM3RY
        warp: ok
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      • drsaunde
        that makes no sense