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kepstin
honestly, I think it would probably make sense to just have this as a single-artist release under "Hellfish"
2011-11-12 31619, 2011
18:46 PM
kepstin
with the appropriate ARs from the remixes to the original recordings, of course.
2011-11-12 31648, 2011
18:46 PM
Leftmost
Fair enough.
2011-11-12 31615, 2011
18:48 PM
reosarevok thought remixes were always supposed to be credited to the original artist? :/
2011-11-12 31635, 2011
18:48 PM
kepstin
reosarevok: so did I, until I couldn't find any guidelines for it.
2011-11-12 31639, 2011
18:48 PM
Leftmost
Well, I'm not totally convinced it's the Right Thing to do for all the tracks, but 2 and 10 perhaps.
2011-11-12 31643, 2011
18:48 PM
kepstin
it makes sense in most cases to do that
2011-11-12 31604, 2011
18:50 PM
Leftmost
What say you, reosarevok? 2 and 10 credited to original artists or to Hellfish alone? With ARs either way.
2011-11-12 31630, 2011
18:50 PM
kepstin
I think we need a guideline for artists on remixes :)
2011-11-12 31613, 2011
18:51 PM
kepstin
maybe just leave the track artists as-is for now (but split Hellfish & Producer)
2011-11-12 31627, 2011
18:51 PM
Leftmost
Right. Splitting Hellfish & Producer and doing an AC for Alcore.
2011-11-12 31631, 2011
18:52 PM
kepstin
sure that's not just a typo, missing space? :)
2011-11-12 31617, 2011
18:53 PM
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18:53 PM
kepstin
hmm. looks like he's used it other places as well.
2011-11-12 31630, 2011
18:53 PM
kepstin
should be ok to credit as "Alcore"
2011-11-12 31652, 2011
18:53 PM
Leftmost
Aye, discogs shows a number of releases of his credited to Alcore.
2011-11-12 31612, 2011
18:54 PM
Leftmost
2011-11-12 31646, 2011
18:54 PM
kepstin
2011-11-12 31607, 2011
18:55 PM
kepstin
(that will also fix the recording artists and other releases)
2011-11-12 31626, 2011
18:56 PM
Leftmost
Alright. Putting in an edit to remove the current AR.
2011-11-12 31607, 2011
18:57 PM
kepstin
hmm. that's interesting; I didn't realize that "Hellfish & Producer" has a discogs page.
2011-11-12 31626, 2011
18:57 PM
kepstin
now comes the question: is it a notable enough collaboration to have its own artist :)
2011-11-12 31613, 2011
18:58 PM
Leftmost
Personally, I wouldn't say a combined artist is justified for that sort of collaboration.
2011-11-12 31657, 2011
18:58 PM
Leftmost
Both are credited under their separate names, which to me gives it the sense of collaboration, as opposed to "group"
2011-11-12 31620, 2011
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19:13 PM
Novarg
an extra inputbox to search for text in the current picard session (left and right side) would be awesome
2011-11-12 31621, 2011
19:13 PM
MBChatLogger
2011-11-12 31621, 2011
19:13 PM
reosarevok
2011-11-12 31629, 2011
19:13 PM
reosarevok
You can add Picard requests there
2011-11-12 31649, 2011
19:13 PM
Novarg
I thought I'd first drop a random though to hear opinions, like it already beign reported :)
2011-11-12 31654, 2011
19:13 PM
Novarg
I'll ponder it a bit first
2011-11-12 31606, 2011
19:14 PM
Novarg
thought*, man it's late
2011-11-12 31626, 2011
19:14 PM
reosarevok has no idea if it has been reported
2011-11-12 31633, 2011
19:14 PM
reosarevok
But there are not that many Picard bugs
2011-11-12 31640, 2011
19:14 PM
reosarevok
(we recently migrated to Jira)
2011-11-12 31647, 2011
19:14 PM
reosarevok
So you could easily check I guess :)
2011-11-12 31644, 2011
19:15 PM
Novarg
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19:16 PM
reosarevok
For that, there is a ticket :p
2011-11-12 31628, 2011
19:16 PM
reosarevok
Because there's no single sign-in
2011-11-12 31638, 2011
19:16 PM
reosarevok
(the forum, for example, also requires a new registration)
2011-11-12 31606, 2011
19:21 PM
ianmcorvidae
and the code review site
2011-11-12 31621, 2011
19:21 PM
ianmcorvidae
of course there's perhaps ten people that actually use _that_ one, but
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19:23 PM
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19:34 PM
reosarevok
Hmmm
2011-11-12 31602, 2011
19:35 PM
reosarevok
kepstin, Leftmost: thinking about it, what about crediting the tracks to whatever the release says, crediting the recordings to the original artists?
2011-11-12 31656, 2011
19:42 PM
CatCat
remixes to original artst.. but i know mashups the mashuper
2011-11-12 31622, 2011
19:43 PM
CatCat
but sometimes, oohh, sometiems peopel who more traditionally do amshups. when they do a remix of as ong, it's so differnt
2011-11-12 31645, 2011
19:43 PM
CatCat
it's almost a shame to call it a "remix of so and so's track" and it's like it's own work
2011-11-12 31653, 2011
19:43 PM
CatCat
but i still don't know though
2011-11-12 31659, 2011
19:43 PM
CatCat
it feels wrong either way, idk
2011-11-12 31639, 2011
19:44 PM
CatCat
like "artist x" as "whats on the cover"?
2011-11-12 31642, 2011
19:44 PM
CatCat
yea i'd do that
2011-11-12 31610, 2011
19:46 PM
Novarg
In my opinion, the remixer is an artist as well and should be listed as such
2011-11-12 31621, 2011
19:46 PM
Novarg
you can still note the original artist somewhere in the tags
2011-11-12 31614, 2011
19:48 PM
reosarevok
Well, the remixer *is* listed as remixer with a relationship
2011-11-12 31631, 2011
19:54 PM
CatCat
yes
2011-11-12 31612, 2011
20:00 PM
Leftmost
reosarevok, it's not clear in this case what the release says. :P But in general, I think if we're going to allow releases to show the remixer as the artist, then recording should show similarly, and have a link to the original recording.
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Jungar
hi
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21:02 PM
reosarevok
hi
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21:30 PM
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21:30 PM
Mustafa
hi
2011-11-12 31644, 2011
21:30 PM
Mustafa
anyone can help?
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21:34 PM
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21:34 PM
reosarevok
Hi
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21:34 PM
reosarevok
Maybe
2011-11-12 31655, 2011
21:34 PM
reosarevok
What's the issue?
2011-11-12 31616, 2011
21:35 PM
Mustafa
im a developer
2011-11-12 31628, 2011
21:35 PM
Mustafa
and im trying to get the track list in a release
2011-11-12 31636, 2011
21:35 PM
Mustafa
through xml
2011-11-12 31602, 2011
21:36 PM
Mustafa
so my question is: how can query a release
2011-11-12 31618, 2011
21:36 PM
Mustafa
and get its tracks
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21:36 PM
luks
what do you have so far?
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21:37 PM
luks
2011-11-12 31642, 2011
21:37 PM
luks
for example
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21:38 PM
Mustafa
2011-11-12 31627, 2011
21:38 PM
Mustafa
which doesn't give me the tracks list
2011-11-12 31631, 2011
21:38 PM
Mustafa
what if i don't have the ID?
2011-11-12 31655, 2011
21:38 PM
luks
use the search query to get the ID
2011-11-12 31614, 2011
21:39 PM
ianmcorvidae
yeah, was gonna say, just do two queries: one to get the ID, one to get the info
2011-11-12 31631, 2011
21:39 PM
kepstin
you can't get the track list directly from the name, because there might be multiple releases with the same name, but different track lists.
2011-11-12 31657, 2011
21:40 PM
Mustafa
oh
2011-11-12 31658, 2011
21:40 PM
Mustafa
i see
2011-11-12 31602, 2011
21:41 PM
Mustafa
thank you guys
2011-11-12 31636, 2011
21:43 PM
Mustafa
Another question if you don't mind
2011-11-12 31606, 2011
21:44 PM
Mustafa
how can i query a release with its name and the artist name?
2011-11-12 31606, 2011
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21:44 PM
Mustafa
2011-11-12 31629, 2011
21:44 PM
Mustafa
is this possible?
2011-11-12 31638, 2011
21:44 PM
ianmcorvidae
I think you can use advanced search stuff in the query
2011-11-12 31640, 2011
21:44 PM
ianmcorvidae
2011-11-12 31651, 2011
21:44 PM
ianmcorvidae
something like ?query=releasename+artist:artistname, I think
2011-11-12 31618, 2011
21:46 PM
Mustafa
that worked, thank you!
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