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      • reosarevok
        :/
      • 2011-11-18 32216, 2011

      • reosarevok
        We don't have a way to apply a name change to *all* recordings and releases, right?
      • 2011-11-18 32223, 2011

      • reosarevok
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      • kepstin-netbook notes that http://musicbrainz.org/release/6b777956-63e6-4d6f-a1b3-fdaf564af375 is the worst case he's seen for acoustids :/
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      • reosarevok notes he should stop going to bed at 6 AM and waking at 4 PM
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      • murdos
        luks: enabling CORS on ngnix doesn't seem complex e.g. https://gist.github.com/833647 or https://gist.github.com/1064640
      • 2011-11-18 32245, 2011

      • murdos
        I wish mb would enable CORS on its webservice too
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      • reosarevok
        murdos, have you added a ticket asking for it?
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      • reosarevok guesses opening the webservice in more ways is actually something that would be considered interesting
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      • murdos
        reosarevok: yes, I have done that a long time ago
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      • reosarevok
        Ok, just checking :)
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      • ocharles
        we have a ticket for it and will get to it
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      • ocharles
        (patches welcome :))
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      • reosarevok
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      • rburton
        good job someone
      • 2011-11-18 32202, 2011

      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok goes out for a while, will fix this once I'm back if those have passed
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      • voiceinsideyou1
        woo narrowband... i get a whopping 60kB/s to ftp.musicbrainz.org
      • 2011-11-18 32251, 2011

      • voiceinsideyou1
        anyone seeding the MB VM image on torrent? :-/
      • 2011-11-18 32223, 2011

      • luks
        are you using ftp or http?
      • 2011-11-18 32213, 2011

      • voiceinsideyou1
        http; let me try straight ftp.
      • 2011-11-18 32226, 2011

      • voiceinsideyou1
        hey, it's better... why /so/ much better!?
      • 2011-11-18 32228, 2011

      • luks
        no, ftp is usually slower
      • 2011-11-18 32234, 2011

      • luks
        hm, really?
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      • voiceinsideyou1
        140 kB/s
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      • MBChatLogger
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      • voiceinsideyou1
        our bandwidth to Asia has always been terrible; although not sure where ftp.mb.org is hosted
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      • luks
        Ohio
      • 2011-11-18 32246, 2011

      • reosarevok has always found "Ohio" to be a very funny word
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      • reosarevok
        (please votes here so I can fix this crap, seriously :( It's depressing me just to look at it :P http://musicbrainz.org/artist/13280551-548f-4e19-… )
      • 2011-11-18 32249, 2011

      • voiceinsideyou1
        hey look 200kB/s for ftp... http lingers on at 50kB/s
      • 2011-11-18 32215, 2011

      • voiceinsideyou1
        what kind of speeds do you guys in Europe get?
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      • hawke__
        reosarevok: voted.
      • 2011-11-18 32220, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2011-11-18 32245, 2011

      • voiceinsideyou1
        reosarevok: mixtapes are a world of pain in MB. :(
      • 2011-11-18 32254, 2011

      • nikki
        I get 400kb/s for either
      • 2011-11-18 32212, 2011

      • reosarevok
        voiceinsideyou1, I can imagine :(
      • 2011-11-18 32242, 2011

      • reosarevok
        voiceinsideyou1, what do you usually do with the "mixed by" part?
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      • reosarevok
        Just a relationship?
      • 2011-11-18 32255, 2011

      • reosarevok
        In the title with parentheses?
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      • voiceinsideyou1
        reosarevok: Yeah, release artist and AR; I hate them in the title
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      • reosarevok too
      • 2011-11-18 32228, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But in this case I am not sure whether I can make him the release artist
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      • Leftmost
        They're both created by the same user... why are they both created by the same user? *curls into a ball and rocks back and forth*
      • 2011-11-18 32234, 2011

      • voiceinsideyou1
        nikki: envy. :(
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      • reosarevok
        Leftmost, because if TWO USERS had done the same DISASTER it would be much worse
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      • reosarevok tries to be positive
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      • Leftmost
        reosarevok, sure... but...
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      • reosarevok
        Leftmost, what about voting on them before ModBot comes? :)
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        (or nikki)
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      • Leftmost
        Oh, right. My mind reacted so violently in opposition to their existence that I forgot to vote.
      • 2011-11-18 32238, 2011

      • hawke__
        lol
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      • reosarevok
        :D
      • 2011-11-18 32209, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Thanks!
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      • hawke__
        What’s modbot gonna do, ban the user in question for entering such a travesty?
      • 2011-11-18 32227, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Merge them before I get to my gf's place so I can fix it once I'm there ;)
      • 2011-11-18 32245, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Making the user explode would be nicer though
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      • reosarevok
        "krautbrain"... kraut maybe but brain... I'll disagree
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      • hawke__
        I wonder whether the worst of my edits are any better though. I’m sure I entered some terrible stuff way back when I was starting out.
      • 2011-11-18 32210, 2011

      • Leftmost
        Can we add that functionality to reosarevok?
      • 2011-11-18 32214, 2011

      • Leftmost
        Err, to ModBot.
      • 2011-11-18 32223, 2011

      • Leftmost
        Guh, those edits truly have broken me.
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      • reosarevok shakes his head at http://musicbrainz.org/artist/7aa38409-fcb3-4656-80b2-82c62a945b69
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      • reosarevok edits that before going
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      • Leftmost
        reosarevok is determined to drive me into a vegetative state.
      • 2011-11-18 32255, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Naah
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      • reosarevok
        krautbrain is
      • 2011-11-18 32216, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (and, to a lesser extent, Californian hip hop
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      • hawke__
        No, it’s your fault for pointing it out to us.
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      • Leftmost
        reosarevok, I could have gone through life without knowing of their existence. But you had to point it out. And keep doing it.
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      • reosarevok wonders if California is a vegetative state
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      • hawke__
        We could have drifted along blissfully unaware, and here you come…
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      • reosarevok is every day more afraid of the necessity of a huge hip hop cleanup
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      • reosarevok
        Maybe we should set up a project for it :p
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      • Leftmost
        There are style questions I have, but I've been avoiding addressing them.
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      • reosarevok
        About hip hop?
      • 2011-11-18 32202, 2011

      • Leftmost
        No, general style questions. Just expressing sympathy.
      • 2011-11-18 32233, 2011

      • reosarevok goes catch a bus
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      • reosarevok
        Back in a while
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      • reosarevok
        We can talk about style questions later ;p
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      • Mineo
        reosarevok: would this project involve lots of planet-size tasks?:)
      • 2011-11-18 32237, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Mineo, most likely
      • 2011-11-18 32253, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Well, planet-size tasks that are actually country-size tasks :P
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      • reosarevok
        (or the other way around!)
      • 2011-11-18 32237, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But those are easily broken up into smaller tasks
      • 2011-11-18 32254, 2011

      • Mineo
        heh, country being the largest size leaves enough space for expansion
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      • reosarevok
        Country X cleanup -> Fix artist X -> Fix all feats for artist X + add missing releases to artist X + create works for artist X
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      • reosarevok
        And stuff like that
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      • reosarevok
        Dunno
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      • reosarevok
        (planet -> country -> house in the scale probably)
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      • ocharles wonders what you're talking about
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      • ocharles
        A planet sized task is rewriting the edit system and things of that scale
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      • reosarevok
        :p
      • 2011-11-18 32205, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :p
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      • reosarevok
        (but user-oriented)
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      • ocharles
        ah
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      • hawke__
        I think “find all US hip hop in MB” is also on the same scale. :-)
      • 2011-11-18 32213, 2011

      • reosarevok
        True, true
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      • reosarevok goes away for real
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      • hawke__
        ocharles: As you may have noticed, I did now post to the list about that ticket regarding vinyl track durations
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      • ocharles
        hawke__: haven't noticed yet, on a train and don't have gnus set up on the laptop
      • 2011-11-18 32230, 2011

      • hawke__
        ah
      • 2011-11-18 32248, 2011

      • hawke__
        Speaking of “rewriting the edit system”, how’s the bookbrainz edit system doing?
      • 2011-11-18 32222, 2011

      • hawke__
        Also, (and I see reosarevok has seen it already) I wrote down my thoughts on the topic at http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Hawke/Proposal/E…
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      • ocharles
        hawke__: hasn't progressed much since the summit. I haven't seen that page, I'll have a read now
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      • ocharles
        hmm, interesting
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      • ocharles
        not sure I have any thoughts on it just yet
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      • hawke__
        That’s fine, just wanted to point it out there.
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      • hawke__
        It’s not well-written or entirely coherent, but I wanted to write something down to get it out there.
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      • ocharles
        it semes like you mostly just want to see subscriptions changed
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      • ocharles
        right?
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      • ocharles
        it's not actually much of a change to the edit system
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      • hawke__
        I think it is once you get to “drop voting as it is now”
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      • hawke__
        Should probably have another header, and I think I need to explain it better, though
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      • hawke__
        A diagram couldn’t hurt, though I’m not sure how best to diagram it.
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      • reosarevok
        Leftmost, back
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      • reosarevok
        What were your style doubts? :p
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      • hawke__
        There, I added an example with some images: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Hawke/Proposal/E…
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      • hawke__
        Hopefully that helps and doesn’t just make it worse
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      • Leftmost
        reosarevok, well, there's the unsettled debate about whether it should be "Building Something out of Nothing" or "Building Something Out of Nothing". There was something else I was unsure of. Let me think for a minute.
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      • Leftmost
        Oh. I keep wanting to bring up whether it's appropriate to have the Beatles box sets merged, since to me it seems like a number of distinct albums released together, rather than one monumental release. And I think there needs to be some sort of separation between that kind of phenomenon and, say, Neil Young's Decade, which is a two-disc monolithic release.
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      • derwin
        heh, Decade is one great album man
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      • derwin
        Leftmost: there's also "Singles Going Steady" by the buzzcocks, an album which is actually a collection of singles from other albums, and non-album tracks.. and is on many "top [x] albums lists"
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      • Leftmost
        I don't actually remember the album. I just had to think of a 2CD release. :)