nikki, sometimes it freezes when writing and then freaks out a little bit when I try to hook it up to rhythmbox or the like. And absolutely nothing seems to be able to create a playlist on it.
2010-07-09 19006, 2010
nikki
I'll ask him tomorrow if he's seen anything like that
2010-07-09 19014, 2010
nikki
(he's fast asleep at the moment though :P)
2010-07-09 19007, 2010
Leftmost
Cheers. It wouldn't surprise me too much if it was an issue with the player, with my luck, but oh well.
2010-07-09 19015, 2010
CatCat
[01:39] ruaok clearly you're and edge case for the survey. :)
2010-07-09 19022, 2010
CatCat is also always logged in
2010-07-09 19038, 2010
Leftmost
I try to be always logged in.
2010-07-09 19012, 2010
Leftmost
Perhaps this channel lends itself to edge cases.
2010-07-09 19014, 2010
nikki
I would imagine it's just that the people who want to hang around with other mb users and talk to them tend to be the ones who spend more time on mb... and what's the point logging out and back in all the time? :P
2010-07-09 19024, 2010
CatCat doesnt log out of anything
2010-07-09 19042, 2010
CatCat
I findit imenisvly annoying when for example wikipedia loggs me out on a regular basis
2010-07-09 19052, 2010
Leftmost
I always get annoyed I have to log in to my test server again.:P
2010-07-09 19050, 2010
nikki
me too :P
2010-07-09 19000, 2010
ruaok
wow. moose has been up for 1150 days.
2010-07-09 19033, 2010
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2010-07-09 19007, 2010
andrewski
Is anyone else noticing any server troubles?
2010-07-09 19016, 2010
navap
The server's been a little slower than usual for the past few hours, but I thought it was my internet connection being flakey.
2010-07-09 19006, 2010
andrewski
I don't think that's it; I'm getting 504s while editing a release and looking at past edits.
I want to do the suvey but i don't understand "Peer-produced sources" in "Peer-produced sources for music information are as reliable as non-peer-produced resources" quesiont?
2010-07-09 19055, 2010
JESUS2099
anyone can help me I'm stucked on the first pages of the MB survey
2010-07-09 19059, 2010
Wizzcat
peer produced means data that has been created by multiple, often non-professional, people
2010-07-09 19003, 2010
Wizzcat
as in mbz
2010-07-09 19017, 2010
Wizzcat
as opposed to non-peer produced, like cddb
2010-07-09 19021, 2010
JESUS2099
mr_maxis: the preevious fingerprints lokked good too (the one given yesterday or the day before in this IRC)
2010-07-09 19010, 2010
JESUS2099
wizzcat: why don't they oppose official data with peer then? Who cares about reliability of tiers?
2010-07-09 19023, 2010
JESUS2099
tiers like CDDB or online shops?
2010-07-09 19009, 2010
Wizzcat
it's the whole wikipedia vs encyclopedia question, can a crowd of non-experts produce the same quality as one expert
2010-07-09 19023, 2010
JESUS2099
they are often wrong and uneditable..
2010-07-09 19025, 2010
Wizzcat
which doesn't really apply here IMO since labels don't give a shit
2010-07-09 19038, 2010
JESUS2099
But I wouldn't call cddb, shops, as experts :)
2010-07-09 19014, 2010
JESUS2099
What shall I answer here.. agree perhaps I don't get it, I must be dumbs
2010-07-09 19000, 2010
Wizzcat
well there's "no answser" :)
2010-07-09 19032, 2010
JESUS2099
ok that's my option here, thanks :)
2010-07-09 19038, 2010
JESUS2099
it's a pitty they put Forums and Mailing list in the same question ... I don't use the mailing list and it would have been a great occasion to compare the useage of those redundant medias
2010-07-09 19022, 2010
JESUS2099
What is "notes box" in "It's important to provide guidance to editors in the notes box. " ?
"You are permitted to use the Last.fm Data solely for non-commercial purposes and for no other purpose and subject always to any limitations or conditions as advised to You by Last.fm at any time."
2010-07-09 19047, 2010
luks
that doesn't seem *that* open
2010-07-09 19053, 2010
ianmcorvidae
not really no
2010-07-09 19055, 2010
luks
at least not more open than TRMs were
2010-07-09 19015, 2010
luks
or PUIDs a year ago
2010-07-09 19038, 2010
ianmcorvidae
heh
2010-07-09 19057, 2010
ianmcorvidae
luks: by the way, ruaok indicated you had some variety of notes regarding schema changes to make classical useful
2010-07-09 19015, 2010
ianmcorvidae
I'm hoping to take on the project of "making classical useful" at least in part; could you give me details on what you have?
2010-07-09 19032, 2010
luks
I'm afraid I don't have anything
2010-07-09 19032, 2010
ianmcorvidae
(er, make classical data on MB useful, but you know what I meant)
2010-07-09 19037, 2010
ianmcorvidae
ah, okay
2010-07-09 19050, 2010
ianmcorvidae
well, thanks anyway :)
2010-07-09 19023, 2010
andrewski
What's "useful" mean? I use classical data on MBz all the time. ;)
2010-07-09 19056, 2010
luks
ianmcorvidae: I have some ideas, but not much to discuss them right now
2010-07-09 19012, 2010
ianmcorvidae
luks: hm, okay
2010-07-09 19025, 2010
ianmcorvidae
luks: well, if you have anything feel free to send it my way here or ianmcorvidae [at ianmcorvidae.net]
2010-07-09 19035, 2010
ianmcorvidae
andrewski: perhaps 'more useful' would be a better phrase :P
2010-07-09 19045, 2010
andrewski
ianmcorvidae: Gotcha. :)
2010-07-09 19059, 2010
ianmcorvidae
andrewski: cleaning it up, more complete data, fewer releases that don't have enough information to be usable
2010-07-09 19003, 2010
ianmcorvidae
better style guide
2010-07-09 19004, 2010
ianmcorvidae
so forth
2010-07-09 19021, 2010
ianmcorvidae
a lot of the classical data is really screwed up; it's hard to use it in a lot of cases :)
2010-07-09 19023, 2010
andrewski
That's a lot, but most of it is doable now, yeah?
2010-07-09 19029, 2010
ianmcorvidae
well, yeah
2010-07-09 19030, 2010
andrewski
Yes, a lot of it is bad.
2010-07-09 19042, 2010
ianmcorvidae
but there's certainly some stuff that could be fixed at the schema level, which is probably where to start
2010-07-09 19002, 2010
ianmcorvidae
Works, for example (which are upcoming! woo), would be invaluable
2010-07-09 19002, 2010
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2010-07-09 19017, 2010
andrewski
Yes, agreed.
2010-07-09 19036, 2010
ianmcorvidae
but, yeah. things like the release you linked earlier are great as it stands
2010-07-09 19055, 2010
andrewski
lol, took a bit of time for that one; I just had to point it out because it was so tedious. :P
2010-07-09 19001, 2010
ianmcorvidae
hah, I know
2010-07-09 19007, 2010
andrewski
I think we just need a combination of time and editors to clean it up though. It would be nice if we could remove crappy data no one has used though. >:-)
2010-07-09 19010, 2010
ianmcorvidae
I've added... one classical release, I think? because it takes so long
2010-07-09 19013, 2010
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2010-07-09 19019, 2010
nikki
JESUS2099: yes?
2010-07-09 19029, 2010
nikki
the calendar worked for me in opera
2010-07-09 19008, 2010
ianmcorvidae
I'm hoping that eventually, after I'm confident in the infrastructure stuff, I can sit down and really plow through a bunch of data (maybe choose a label with a particularly-descriptive online catalog and run through their discography, or something)
2010-07-09 19040, 2010
andrewski
While useful, I'd say it's just important to start with what you have and branch out from there.
2010-07-09 19045, 2010
ianmcorvidae
yeah
2010-07-09 19049, 2010
andrewski
Unless you only have one classical release? ;)
2010-07-09 19022, 2010
ianmcorvidae
heh, well, I'm a bad bad pirate, so I tend to get lots of music without packaging or proper tags
2010-07-09 19026, 2010
ianmcorvidae
heh
2010-07-09 19041, 2010
ianmcorvidae
I added a release that I got from my school's library once, because, packaging
2010-07-09 19044, 2010
andrewski
lol… any schema changes wouldn't help you there. ;)
2010-07-09 19048, 2010
ianmcorvidae
oh, certainly not
2010-07-09 19006, 2010
ianmcorvidae
but the plan after that would :)
2010-07-09 19036, 2010
ianmcorvidae
the real point is there's so much to do with classical that it's going to take a while no matter what
2010-07-09 19040, 2010
ianmcorvidae
so might as well do it right
2010-07-09 19043, 2010
ianmcorvidae
i.e. start at the bottom
2010-07-09 19009, 2010
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2010-07-09 19057, 2010
ianmcorvidae
but certainly while working on this, I'll add some stuff from the school library -- improving the existing data is also good, and working on infrastructure can't happen all the time
2010-07-09 19012, 2010
andrewski
Yeah, there's plenty that can be done without any database changes. :)
2010-07-09 19050, 2010
nikki
ianmcorvidae: ohh. you're the guy who added those 8bit h!p songs to the db, right?
2010-07-09 19055, 2010
ianmcorvidae
nikki: yeah
2010-07-09 19058, 2010
ianmcorvidae
god were those a pain
2010-07-09 19011, 2010
nikki
aha, so that's why your name was familiar
2010-07-09 19012, 2010
ianmcorvidae
I'm fairly okay with them at this point
2010-07-09 19021, 2010
ianmcorvidae
although getting all the 'cover of' relationships hasn't happened yet
2010-07-09 19023, 2010
ianmcorvidae
but, in time
2010-07-09 19033, 2010
ianmcorvidae
heh, yep
2010-07-09 19047, 2010
ianmcorvidae
it's possible you commented on something else I did to... can't remember
2010-07-09 19042, 2010
nikki
possibly. I comment on a lot of stuff :P it was probably the h!p stuff though
2010-07-09 19011, 2010
ianmcorvidae
oh, I know you commented on that :) there just might be more
2010-07-09 19035, 2010
JESUS2099
nikki: I have a new script for opera if you want inline ISRC for each tracks
2010-07-09 19046, 2010
andrewski has left the channel
2010-07-09 19052, 2010
JESUS2099
that was not what I wanted to say but I forgot what
