#musicbrainz

I have seen it's possible to bind it to tags, but I haven't suceeded in downloading it yet (from musicbrainz DB), otherwise there are other sites, I know.

there is a plugin you have to download first and some options to enable I think

docAdams, thank you.

np

I made a bit of a mess, I have a 27-track compilation that is listed with only 20 tracks arranged alphabetically.

I fixed the track numbers and added the new tracks but got some sort of error.

I don't remember what it was but I added the release again separately. Anybody know what I should do?

the old release is http://musicbrainz.org/release/c0809d0b-a6b8-4b... and my new one is http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/114521c3-e...

If I move the files to an other support will the pictures of webart be moved along?

*albumart

there is an option to move files matching an extension under file renaming or something like that

Lol... now it's even worse: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4666/picard2...

I had to manually change the artist tag via magic mp3 tagger because it was full of ?????????

and such. Now I get this as a result.

Lol.

Who knows what a standard mp3 player will ever read.

Hi guys, I am doing some work on the NGS database...

Is there a place where I can find info on what each table is for? Wiki doesn't really say... (or I haven't found it)

http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Next_Generation_Schema is pretty much all we've got at the moment

feel free to ask in here though

@nikki, yeah, I'm on that. Question: What does l_*_* tables *really* contain?

@nikki, is it to keep a history of the actual links?

those are the actual links

so if I link an artist to their myspace page, there'll be a row in l_artist_url

@nikki: or many? depending on the dates? (just making sure I'm getting it right)

it should be just one row for each relationship

link points to the link table, which has the dates

and I'm not sure how attributes are linked right now

Mmm... I feel I'm lost with that l_*_* tables and the *link* table....

@nikki, ok, thx, will keep looking into that.

the l_*_* ones are closest to what you see on the website, so when someone adds foo has an official homepage at foo.com, a row is added l_artist_url, when someone adds bar has an official homepage at bar.com another row is added to l_artist_url...

however, since they're both official homepage relationships with no dates set, there would only be one row in the link table, which would have link_type pointing to the official homepage relationship type and no dates set

but if someone then adds asdf has an official homepage at asdf.com until 2009 as a relationship, we get a new row in l_artist_url *and* a new row in the link table because this time one of the dates is set

@nikki: O_O

@nikki: Ok, I see. Now, when I search, then I should always join through the link table I guess

@nikki: to get proper info.

@nikki: I'm staring at it hoping the knowledge will permeate through my skull...

I usually find that the best way to understand it is to find an example I recognise and try selecting it from the database

@nikki: yeah, I've mirrored it and i'm trying to get a hint of the actual data

particularly the relationships... for a long time I ignored them because I couldn't be bothered to figure out how they worked :P

and now I have to learn how to select everything from the ngs database...

@nikki, yeah, it feels a bit too much trying to put this info on a relational model. But *hey*

exit

Hi again guys! Where can I find a sample hourly replication file for the NGS database?

arturo: what would you do with this replication file?

apparently he's doing stuff for the bbc so they're ready for ngs

and murdos, do you know if we have a ticket for adding relationships to all recordings/works on a release? I thought we did but I can't find one

nikki: I don't think there's a ticket for that yet

but we need one ;)

indeed!

What do you need it for, nikki? Just for naming files?

yes

Looks like there isn't a Picard tag for that yet. But even then, writing a plugin should hopefully be trivial.

I just class anything that's mp3 as inferior and anything that's in ogg/vorbis or flac as superior. :)

The bitrate information is available to Picard after all

I do too, FauxFaux

Most of my Vorbis files are encoded with 112bps, so most of them are probably worse than my mp3s.

Plus, I'd have to transcode them before they could be played on my Nokia.

That's why I switched back to mp3s (and flac for stuff I really care for)

Also, Picard does some odd stuff to ogg files which makes (or made) them unusable in Amarok.

my main problem with trying to switch to using only flac/ogg is stupid digital releases

Though this only happens when I embed cover art.

Sounds like a raisable bug in at least one of them.

I had that problem with Amarok 1.4, so I'd doubt their devs would care to fix it. If it was their fault in the first place.

KRSCuan: Amarok uses TagLib, which is maintained by me, and I'm supposed to be maintaining Picard, so filling a bug in either bug tracker is fine :)

I'll check whether it still affects current versions.

If an ogg file had an image embedded, Amarok couldn't read some of its tags, e.g. the track title.

But I don't remember the details right now.

Hello everyone. I have a question: when you have a compilation with various artists how do you tag the artist field? As various artists or do you put the real artist?

use the real artist

luks, and then I end up having lots of artist having just one song or so.

is that a problem?

if you are using a tagger like Picard, you can set the artist field to VA

but in the MB database, it should be the real artist

Oh, I have to introduce the fact that I'm not talking about the online DB. I'm trying to find the best solution for use on one ipod.

Whatever suits you best :)

doesn't it use the same concept of "Compilations" as iTunes?

But I have terrible experiences at least with the way iTunes handles compilations…

Oh, lol. I'm not using itunes right now... I'll use it just to transfer the files.

Or... at least I would like to use it just for that. Lol.

maybe I remember it wrong, but I think it groups VA albums under Compilations, so you don't have artists from VA releases in the artist list

Does Picard set the compilation tag that iTunes uses?

Yeah, I think this is the second option I have: to tag them all as VA and remember that under VA I have all the compitlations.

When I tried iTunes with my tagged files, it stumbled horribly over compilations like this: http://musicbrainz.org/release/cfa63f73-fdc4-49...

fuckit.

KRSCuan: yes, everything with multiple artists should have the Compilation flag set

luks, when I do that on Magic MP3 Tagger though, it will force me to rename files in his order which puts the album first. And I don't want that to happen.

I have no idea about Magic MP3 Tagger

I've never even seen it actually :)

What do you use to tag? Something that keeps compilations files together? :-)

Picard, but I'm obviously biased :)

Hehe.

But picard permits to tag? I have used to get information from the web but to actually tag?

You can tag individual files by right-clicking them and selecting "Details".

Or you can modify the "New Metadata" on the right hand side of the window.

But for large amounts of files, Picard is cumbersome IMO,

Though its script support rocks.