#musicbrainz

I'm getting angry with the "guest" attribute

If I add a track in an album by X and he features someone on vocals, I'd usually add him as guest vocal (I know I'm not the only one, but I don't really know if there's a guideline about it)

But I'm finding several cases where the song was re-released on the other guy's album, featuring who was originally credited as main artist

hi!

Am I wrong if I think that, when the recordings are merged -because the song is the same- I'd end up with both as vocalists and guest vocalists?

hi nikki

if track 1 has "guest vocal by foo" and track 2 has "guest vocal by bar" and you merge both recordings, then yes, you'd get both as guest vocalists (and the same for normal vocalists)

Was afraid so

Since I realized that, I've started adding feat. vocalists as just vocal, with no guest

But I'm sure someone will try to correct it -if someone ever looks at it, that is

is this track title wrong by MB standards? http://musicbrainz.org/track/7677e633-279a-4b4e...

... And Then He Pushes Back

think it's correct, but what about the album name "The Price For Existence Is Eternal Warfare"? "For" is wrong?

"for" should be lowercase, IIRC

About the ellipse... don't really know. Let me look at the guidelines

I checked

it seems to be correct

after ... is a new sentence

so any word should be capitalized there

Yes

That's what I saw too

Hmm. I'd say it doesn't start a new sentence, since it has a contraction there. But that's me.

well it doesn't continue a sentence either

If it continued another track title, I would doubt what to do

But it does not, and not in the original release either http://www.discogs.com/Current-909-GhostsOf-The... (it's first track there)

And it doesn't continue anything on the lyrics, I guess, because I doubt it has lyrics

hmm

ghosts.. of the civil dead... adn then he pushes back

Looks a bit far-fetched

But without looking at how it is put on the back cover of the original release... it's hard to be certain

considering the album on MB is a compiliation it definitely stands alone

track 1, 2 and 5 (5 being the track discussed) comes from the discogs ep you linked

so the fact that track 2 and 3 from your link is before the "..and then", makes it even more doubtful...

http://musicbrainz.org/track/aee33a2a-f518-4660... vs. http://musicbrainz.org/track/6e9800e2-aa38-4194...

is there a "right" way of relating those?

Is it exactly the same song? If so, I'd say "Deep Blue Day (the one on Apollo) is the earliest release of Deep Blue Day (the one on Trainspotting)"

yeah, same, ok I'll add that

tbh I think it's the same recording

is that still the right relationship?

Well, that's what "release" means

If it was not, it should be "version"

ok

I'm all over that Brian Eno album today!

hmm. is it worth adding a new release with an identical tracklist, just so I can credit the person who did the remastering properly?

Hmm

Is it worth your time? :p

if the relationships are different, then sure

I mean, the two releases would be different in NGS

if you can bothered to is another matter

So either you do

Or you add a comment

Saying "do this in NGS"

well, the only thing that's different is that the remastered version has a person who did the remastering

Hmm, if that's the only different and all the other ARs are the same I'd just keep it as ToDo, wait to NGS and do it then, should be easier

But if you feel like doing all the work now, feel free

yeah, I'll just leave it for now

hmm. Unless I can find some better references somewhere, this album could use a 'written' AR type ;)

Yeah, probably

The amount of albums that need it is huge, actually

More or less 50% of the vinyl I have, for example, needs written

:)

Random in what way?

well, like this page I'm currently looking at has breton, german, navajo, esperanto, french, irish, swahili, dutch, portuguese, sakha, finnish and ukrainian

What's the page?

Well, I guess some navajo speaker cares a lot about his birds (?)

apparently!

How come I didn't see there is a new Prof. Layton game?

:D

They're great for things like waiting on airports or doing long bus trips

ocharles: nintendo DS stuff

ah

nikki: someone actually bought a Dreamcast?

wow

¬_¬

I currently have a dreamcast hooked up in the living room.

As for Layton, as the puzzles are all quite different, it doesn't get so tiring after 8 hours of continuous play while waiting for a plane transfer

I haven't used my ds for a while... I think the last game I played on there was probably pokemon ¬_¬

Oh, mind you

I wasn't saying Dreamcast was bad

I wouldn't know, as I've never ever seen one

I like my dreamcast though, it has skies of arcadia, shenmue and grandia 2 :D

-o/ pokemon

and my gamecube is my zeldacube

the last thing I played on the dreamcast for a bit was Tomb Raider 4... that game is horrible on dreamcast :)

Hmm, I tried the first DS pokémon (the one which was not a remaster of the GBC ones)

I think I've only ever played zelda, zelda, zelda, final fantasy crystal chronicles, zelda and zelda on it :P

But it didn't have enough new thing to make me play it longer instead of going back to Gold

lol

I'll try again with Black & White

Hmm, nikki, I've read great great things about how Eternal Darkness uses atmosphere for creating fear

I haven't tried it because of a lack of a GC to try it on

But might be good...

Only thing I played on a GC was... the Metal Gear Solid remake

Don't really know why

At home we had N64 and then my brother got PS2, so PS2 it was

With some comebacks to play Ocarina

ah

I never really got into ps games :/

I hated the graphics too much I think

heh

I don't exactly like most of them

it seemed like they were trying to hard and just ended up with pixelly horrible mess

I was going to say Rez is great... then remembered it was a Dreamcast port

(didn't help that I'd been playing dreamcast games already by the time I first played a playstation game)

(It was Dreamcast, wasn't it?)

no idea

reosarevok: yes.

like I played grandia 2 and *then* grandia

Dunno, I'm not playing so much on consoles nowadays either. Played Metroid Prime 3 and SMB while I was living in a house with a Wii, but not much more.

I used to play on PC a lot, but of all the big PC games I've tried lately I've only liked the Mass Effect series

So now I mainly play on Kongregate

but then one day I was laid in bed and was like "!!! I've gotta get skies of arcadia *ebay*"

hmm... I haven't really played many pc games...

I was playing Baldur's Gate all day back in 2002 or so

Later I played less, but still quite a lot... mostly "old" games for the moment though

Deus Ex, System Shock 2 (which made me find Bioshock quite lacking afterwards), Half Life, Witcher, Portal

Sadly, as I'm not a big fan of straight FPS, there's not so much on the market for me nowadays

It's like "Ok, I can shoot some nazis, or shoot some russians, or shoot some arabs"

or you can do some insult swordfighting

I never got into Monkey Island :(