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Muz
Mm, certianly not just in the music world
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Yllona
nope, not just the music world. finance too
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Muz
Academia too :)
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Yllona
yep.
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Yllona
so my favorite ontology editor / IDE is topquadrant. have you seen it yet? it's not open source :|
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Yllona
but totally kick ass...
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Muz takes a peek
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Yllona
it's worth a download of the eval copy
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Yllona
sadly, the open source offerings have been disappointing
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Yllona
they're just not "Enterprise ready" ;)
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Muz
I don't think that's necessarily a problem though
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Muz
The factor of something being open source or not
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Yllona
nope not at all
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Muz
In most cases, it's purely a safeguard over "what if the company falls through", but until then, the vast majority of people won't and don't care
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Yllona
correct
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Muz
Includes the people asking for it to be open source from what I've seen too tbh. :p
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Yllona
so topquadrant has Helmut knuger and Jeremy Carroll staff
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Yllona
helmut was the original developer of Protege, and Jeremy was the original developer of JENA
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ianmcorvidae
if I could pay $500 to get the darn thing I wouldn't care
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ianmcorvidae
:/
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Yllona
ianmcorvidae: are you astudent?
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ianmcorvidae
I am, yes
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Yllona
i'll check and see if there's a student version / discount
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ianmcorvidae
there is, it's the $500 one
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ianmcorvidae
instead of the >$1000 one :)
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ianmcorvidae
"academic edition"
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Yllona
okay, you're way ahead of me ;)
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ianmcorvidae
heh :)
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Yllona
ianmcorvidae: what are you doing with semantic tech?
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ianmcorvidae
lots of random experimentation, mostly, in part because I can't get any really awesome tools to work with
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ianmcorvidae
done some playing with Semantic Mediawiki (in part with my school) but that's not a fantastic platform
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ianmcorvidae
publish at least FOAF stuff for myself, but that's the most I've been able to maintain
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ianmcorvidae
once the LinkedBrainz stuff finishes up I may dream up some project involving that data :)
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Yllona
ah, that's a good start tho.
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Yllona
yeah, i'm looking forward to the LinkedBrainz stuff myself
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ianmcorvidae
it looks like it'll be pretty cool
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ianmcorvidae
I need to get myself up to speed with MO, but
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Yllona
did everybody see / read about the new itunes Ping service? looks an awful lot like last.fm features
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Yllona
ianmcorvidae: what's MO?
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ianmcorvidae
music ontology
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Yllona
ah, that's somewhat limited. doesn't do classical well
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Yllona
unless it's improved since last i looked
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Yllona
okay, that's new and improved! definitely worth looking at
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ianmcorvidae
yeah, it's improved a lot :)
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Yllona
i'll say. Wow!
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kurtjx
hello
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nikki
hi :P
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kurtjx
hehe
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kurtjx
can anyone comment on why tags are licensed by-nc-sa and not public domain?
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nikki
probably because they're not facts
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kurtjx
i see
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kurtjx
i think for now i'm leaving these out of the RDF translation
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kurtjx
JISC (the funding guys) are a bit prickly about licenses and wan to be sure only "totally open" licenses are applied to the RDF
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nikki nods
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nikki
it can always be done later I guess, if someone says it should be added :)
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kurtjx
indeed :)
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Yllona
nikki: congrats on the new position at MB. you're a perfect fit IMO
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nikki
thanks :)
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Yllona
kurtjx: i saw this last night reading catching up on LinkBrainz activity. I found it odd as well
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Yllona
kurtjx: what ontology editor / IDE will you be using? just curious
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kurtjx
you mean the tags license - a bit odd, but i'm not gonna make too much noise quite yet - it means less work for me in the short term :P
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kurtjx
Yllona, i'm using emacs mostly
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kurtjx
there is a n3 mode i use for ontology editing altho for this project i think there won't be much ontology editing
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kurtjx
altho i do need to create a small ontology for media formats - an extension of the Music Ontology which covers just about everything
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Yllona
ah, well. i'm impressed (really). would you be interested in something more advanced? i have some vendor love to share, but can't catch up with Ruaok
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kurtjx
oh he's in the desert :) burning man
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kurtjx
you have ontology editor software connections?
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Yllona
kurtjx: ooh, i forgot. sorry
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Yllona
kurtjx: yes. private message please
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Yllona
nikki: is shephard still active in MB?
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nikki
he still adds cds he buys
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nikki
but otherwise not really
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nikki
although if you want to ask him something, I can fetch him :P
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Yllona
nikki: thanks. i was reading the music ontology specification and recognized his real name
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nikki nods
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