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      • kyan
        Is there an easy way to add all of Libera's releases? (See http://site.futuramerlin.com/1779.html for a list.) I compiled that discography, and I'm not inclined to do it again. :-P
      • 2010-03-21 08054, 2010

      • kyan
        OK. By the silence here, I comprehend the reality that there isn't. :-D
      • 2010-03-21 08041, 2010

      • herojoker
        i guess if you want to do some mass-inserts/edits, you have to contact somebody involved in the coding of mb
      • 2010-03-21 08021, 2010

      • herojoker
        perhaps the new mb version (aka NGS) will include more input methods
      • 2010-03-21 08026, 2010

      • herojoker
        but i'm really not into that
      • 2010-03-21 08034, 2010

      • kyan
        Who would be into the coding?
      • 2010-03-21 08026, 2010

      • MBChatLogger
        Ponies and sunshine and myspace and glitter!!
      • 2010-03-21 08026, 2010

      • kyan
        (I'm new here — I only started using this a few days ago after I got really POed at Gracenote and switched — so I am not familiar with the members of the community here)
      • 2010-03-21 08012, 2010

      • herojoker
        not sure
      • 2010-03-21 08022, 2010

      • herojoker
        afaik at least aCiD2
      • 2010-03-21 08047, 2010

      • herojoker
        join #musicbrainz-devel
      • 2010-03-21 08057, 2010

      • herojoker
        seems some developers reside there ^^
      • 2010-03-21 08038, 2010

      • kyan
        ^^ Doesn't surprise me, given the "-devel" in the name...
      • 2010-03-21 08047, 2010

      • kyan
        MBChatLogger: Hyped up and insomniac saneness. Gnarled tit!!
      • 2010-03-21 08047, 2010

      • MBChatLogger
        I'm logging. I don't understand 'Hyped up and insomniac saneness. Gnarled tit!!', kyan. Try /msg MBChatLogger help
      • 2010-03-21 08018, 2010

      • navap
        kyan: Just an FYI, the devs in the developer channel are also in this channel.
      • 2010-03-21 08028, 2010

      • navap
        And no, there is no way to import bulk data.
      • 2010-03-21 08013, 2010

      • kyan
        Ah well. I suppose it will just be a matter of a *lot* of time... :-P
      • 2010-03-21 08051, 2010

      • herojoker
        is there an API for entering data?
      • 2010-03-21 08050, 2010

      • navap
        You can add tags and ratings via the WS, but not much else.
      • 2010-03-21 08005, 2010

      • kyan
        It would be handy to have an api for editing.
      • 2010-03-21 08023, 2010

      • navap
        Sure, but the likely end result of that would be that amount of open edits go up but the amount of voters stay the same. That's not the best situation to be in.
      • 2010-03-21 08013, 2010

      • navap
        It's a similar reason why bulk importing isn't available, the voters wouldn't be able to keep up with the amount of new data being entered.
      • 2010-03-21 08018, 2010

      • herojoker
        create a voter api and a voting-only-client for mobile phones
      • 2010-03-21 08040, 2010

      • navap
        herojoker: Hey, now there's a nice idea.
      • 2010-03-21 08051, 2010

      • navap
        Instead of playing a game for 5 min when you're free, spend 5 min voting ;p
      • 2010-03-21 08057, 2010

      • herojoker
        hehe
      • 2010-03-21 08032, 2010

      • herojoker
        nicely presented with two large iphonish buttons "top" or "flop"
      • 2010-03-21 08027, 2010

      • herojoker
        the problem is that most votes require research
      • 2010-03-21 08010, 2010

      • navap
        A lot do, yeah, but the app could filter and only show edits that are likely to not require extensive research.
      • 2010-03-21 08033, 2010

      • kyan
        but that would need clustering.. =lots of nasty programming
      • 2010-03-21 08037, 2010

      • kyan
        :-P
      • 2010-03-21 08001, 2010

      • kyan
        anyway... isn't that what autoedits are for ?
      • 2010-03-21 08003, 2010

      • herojoker
        clustering?
      • 2010-03-21 08015, 2010

      • kyan
        Yes.
      • 2010-03-21 08033, 2010

      • herojoker
        i doubt there are so many voters...
      • 2010-03-21 08041, 2010

      • herojoker
        a direct connection to the server should suffice, i gues
      • 2010-03-21 08057, 2010

      • kyan
      • 2010-03-21 08058, 2010

      • herojoker
        or just load votes onto your client which can then handle it offline
      • 2010-03-21 08020, 2010

      • herojoker
        oh, i thought you meant server/database clustering
      • 2010-03-21 08026, 2010

      • kyan
        Nope.
      • 2010-03-21 08042, 2010

      • kyan
        (though that might not be a bad idea, either... ;-)
      • 2010-03-21 08020, 2010

      • kyan
        Wow. That's a gorgeous piece... R.Ronnes.Vivaldi.40.2.3s.Moskva.95
      • 2010-03-21 08006, 2010

      • kyan
      • 2010-03-21 08028, 2010

      • kyan
        (I have a soft spot for bassoon... :-D)
      • 2010-03-21 08059, 2010

      • kyan
        ...and it doesn't hurt that it's played exquisitely... ;-)
      • 2010-03-21 08001, 2010

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      • kyan
        oops, sorry, wrong link... should have been http://robertronnes.com/vivaldibsnconcno40/R.Ronn…
      • 2010-03-21 08005, 2010

      • kyan
        ...but the other's gorgeous too...
      • 2010-03-21 08021, 2010

      • kyan
        ...okay, now I'll shut up about bassoon music :-P
      • 2010-03-21 08044, 2010

      • kyan
        ...for the moment, at least; knowing me it won't last long ;-)
      • 2010-03-21 08027, 2010

      • kyan
        herojoker: I hope that MB *needs* to use clustering. :-D
      • 2010-03-21 08048, 2010

      • kyan
        it would be nice if it had everyone in the world contributing their music.
      • 2010-03-21 08002, 2010

      • kyan
        (the metadata,that is.)
      • 2010-03-21 08034, 2010

      • kyan
        Does anyone have a suggestion for an alternative to iTunes? iTunes has grown displeased with my 25247-piece library...
      • 2010-03-21 08004, 2010

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      • herojoker
        foobar2000
      • 2010-03-21 08020, 2010

      • herojoker
        i have ~15k tracks, runs smoothly
      • 2010-03-21 08020, 2010

      • kyan
        I'm downloading it now via bittorent...
      • 2010-03-21 08028, 2010

      • herojoker
        be warned
      • 2010-03-21 08029, 2010

      • kyan
        nice.
      • 2010-03-21 08034, 2010

      • herojoker
        the player requires some work
      • 2010-03-21 08035, 2010

      • kyan
        about what?
      • 2010-03-21 08037, 2010

      • kyan
        oh.
      • 2010-03-21 08042, 2010

      • kyan
        Of what nature?
      • 2010-03-21 08001, 2010

      • herojoker
        well, you surely have to redesign the GUI
      • 2010-03-21 08002, 2010

      • navap
        It requires a willingness to actually look at the options and read the documentation.
      • 2010-03-21 08014, 2010

      • kyan
        like pretty much anything.
      • 2010-03-21 08016, 2010

      • herojoker
        if you really want to get into it you have to learn the title formatting language
      • 2010-03-21 08017, 2010

      • navap
        Instead of expecting it to read your mind and do what you want.
      • 2010-03-21 08035, 2010

      • kyan
        mmm. I like software that reads my mind.
      • 2010-03-21 08039, 2010

      • kyan
        :-D
      • 2010-03-21 08022, 2010

      • kyan
        d/l finished; will tell you how it's working once I get to my window$ box
      • 2010-03-21 08033, 2010

      • kyan
        (I'm using a mac right now...)
      • 2010-03-21 08044, 2010

      • kyan
        Thanks for the tip.
      • 2010-03-21 08049, 2010

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      • Muz
        herojoker: lies!
      • 2010-03-21 08041, 2010

      • Muz
        The defaults are fine. ¬_¬
      • 2010-03-21 08047, 2010

      • herojoker
        hehe
      • 2010-03-21 08059, 2010

      • Muz
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      • kyan
        IMO, it's a matter of opinion... ;-)
      • 2010-03-21 08017, 2010

      • herojoker
        yep
      • 2010-03-21 08054, 2010

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      • herojoker
        not 100% up-to-date, but that's roughly my setup: http://home.arcor.de/herojoker/foobar2000.png
      • 2010-03-21 08047, 2010

      • Muz
        Bloat! :p
      • 2010-03-21 08056, 2010

      • herojoker
        noes!
      • 2010-03-21 08007, 2010

      • kyan
        opinion!
      • 2010-03-21 08020, 2010

      • herojoker
        my opinion is "the right one"(TM)
      • 2010-03-21 08024, 2010

      • herojoker
        ;-)
      • 2010-03-21 08030, 2010

      • Muz
        kyan: welcome to the Internet. I see you're new.
      • 2010-03-21 08034, 2010

      • kyan
        ^^
      • 2010-03-21 08049, 2010

      • kyan
        Je suis un n00b.
      • 2010-03-21 08052, 2010

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      • navap
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      • kyan
        regarding irc, at anyrate.
      • 2010-03-21 08011, 2010

      • herojoker
        ah facets
      • 2010-03-21 08020, 2010

      • kyan
        I've been on wikipedia for ages. :-D
      • 2010-03-21 08044, 2010

      • herojoker
        have to try that too
      • 2010-03-21 08029, 2010

      • kyan
      • 2010-03-21 08043, 2010

      • herojoker
        hehe, have been there yesterday
      • 2010-03-21 08053, 2010

      • kyan
        my WP userpage?
      • 2010-03-21 08058, 2010

      • navap
        herojoker: are those playcounts in the right most column?
      • 2010-03-21 08029, 2010

      • kyan
        just a guess: bitrate
      • 2010-03-21 08035, 2010

      • herojoker
        correct kyan
      • 2010-03-21 08045, 2010

      • navap
        Okay phew :)
      • 2010-03-21 08059, 2010

      • herojoker
        playcounts are on the one next to it
      • 2010-03-21 08011, 2010

      • herojoker
        but they were not accurate back then
      • 2010-03-21 08007, 2010

      • herojoker
        i previously (month ago or so) moved files without remembering this destroys the stats
      • 2010-03-21 08024, 2010

      • herojoker
        (month before that screenshot)
      • 2010-03-21 08019, 2010

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      • kyan
        <sarcasm>I find it jut the teeny bit challenging to believe that you listened to one piece 1014 times.</sarcasm>
      • 2010-03-21 08055, 2010

      • Guest52855
        I move files all the time, so I save my tags in the files.
      • 2010-03-21 08003, 2010

      • kyan
        sorry, just
      • 2010-03-21 08023, 2010

      • Muz
        kyan hasn't heard Taylor Swift I see.
      • 2010-03-21 08030, 2010

      • Muz
        Hm... only 1455 plays on Love Story. ¬_¬
      • 2010-03-21 08057, 2010

      • kyan
        I'm going to the page on taylor swift on wp right now...
      • 2010-03-21 08005, 2010

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      • 2010-03-21 08009, 2010

      • kyan
        Love Story — I know the ruki vverh cover
      • 2010-03-21 08043, 2010

      • kyan
        does anyone else here like rv?
      • 2010-03-21 08007, 2010

      • kyan
        different Love Story. I was thinking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(Where_Do_I_Begin%3F…
      • 2010-03-21 08029, 2010

      • kyan
      • 2010-03-21 08047, 2010

      • kyan
        (the youtube link is ruki vverh's club mix of it)
      • 2010-03-21 08018, 2010

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      • herojoker
        i'm back :)
      • 2010-03-21 08034, 2010

      • herojoker
        regarding storing playcount statistics / ratings in the tracks: i don't like that idea since these are so variable (over time)
      • 2010-03-21 08009, 2010

      • herojoker
        i want them to contain only tags that really belong to THEM, not to ME
      • 2010-03-21 08002, 2010

      • kyan
        that makes sense.
      • 2010-03-21 08000, 2010

      • navap
        I would much rather have all the data together, that makes it easier for me to backup everything.
      • 2010-03-21 08004, 2010

      • herojoker
        and, even if it sounds weird, to some extent i'm building my music "library" not just for me
      • 2010-03-21 08018, 2010

      • navap
        There is the popularimeter tag in ID3v2.4 though, that lets you store user specific play counts and ratings.
      • 2010-03-21 08024, 2010

      • kyan
        could keep the metadata in a separate file for easy backup
      • 2010-03-21 08029, 2010

      • herojoker
        it might be there but i won't use it
      • 2010-03-21 08029, 2010

      • navap
        But there isn't too much adoption of that frame.
      • 2010-03-21 08006, 2010

      • herojoker
        ideally i will finally store the music on read-only drive :p
      • 2010-03-21 08020, 2010

      • kyan
        one shouldn't use something just b/c not many other people don't, imo
      • 2010-03-21 08056, 2010

      • herojoker
        so many negations...
      • 2010-03-21 08024, 2010

      • kyan
        yes, but they are necessary for clarity ;-)
      • 2010-03-21 08026, 2010

      • herojoker
        i'm just doing what i think is right :p
      • 2010-03-21 08037, 2010

      • kyan
        like everone else should be
      • 2010-03-21 08046, 2010

      • kyan
        it's too bad so few people do
      • 2010-03-21 08052, 2010

      • herojoker
        i'm not sure about that
      • 2010-03-21 08022, 2010

      • kyan
        you think that it's not a problem that so few people do what the think is right? ;-)
      • 2010-03-21 08000, 2010

      • kyan
        sorry, they
      • 2010-03-21 08023, 2010

      • herojoker
        in particular since i met people publicly avowing themselves to egoism
      • 2010-03-21 08052, 2010

      • herojoker
        by the way, the piece i listened to most often is 'The Sea Swells Again' by Angus Carlyle, 3:46 long, played 63 times
      • 2010-03-21 08005, 2010

      • herojoker
        part of webbed hands release wh055
      • 2010-03-21 08043, 2010

      • herojoker
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      • kyan
        By play count, one of my top pieces is Tuấn Ngọc, by Đăng Khánh, from the album Cung Đàn Xưa.
      • 2010-03-21 08035, 2010

      • herojoker
        hehe, never heard about that