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      • hackedhead
        no idea. i've only just started using picard recently
      • 2010-03-21 08031, 2010

      • kyan
        Me too.
      • 2010-03-21 08033, 2010

      • hackedhead
        did it used to work?
      • 2010-03-21 08036, 2010

      • hackedhead
        oh okay.
      • 2010-03-21 08054, 2010

      • kyan
        (only a few days ago)
      • 2010-03-21 08007, 2010

      • kyan
        might ask one of the devs?
      • 2010-03-21 08016, 2010

      • hackedhead
        hmm.. no idea
      • 2010-03-21 08028, 2010

      • kyan
        none here either... :-P
      • 2010-03-21 08056, 2010

      • hackedhead
        yeah that's why i cam in here to ask
      • 2010-03-21 08059, 2010

      • hackedhead
        came*
      • 2010-03-21 08006, 2010

      • kyan
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      • kyan
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      • hackedhead
        aha
      • 2010-03-21 08001, 2010

      • kyan
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      • kyan
        hopefully this will work.
      • 2010-03-21 08008, 2010

      • kyan
        I've got to go now, but good luck. :-)
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      • chovy
        howdy
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      • chovy
        is there a way to search flickr for photos by mbid?
      • 2010-03-21 08054, 2010

      • chovy
      • 2010-03-21 08014, 2010

      • MBChatLogger
        chovy probably meant ' on the Flick Machine Tag wiki page (musicbrainz.org) -- but i don't see an example of searching by mbid. '
      • 2010-03-21 08014, 2010

      • chovy
        on the Flick Machine Tag wiki page (mb.org) -- but i don't see an example of searching by mbid.
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      • navap
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      • navap
        Insteag of searching for musicbrainz:artist, search for musicbrainz:artist=<MBID>
      • 2010-03-21 08053, 2010

      • chovy
        ok
      • 2010-03-21 08058, 2010

      • chovy
        i guess there isn't a lot of mbid tagged photos
      • 2010-03-21 08001, 2010

      • navap
        I think that might be because people don't know it's possible (or why it might be useful)
      • 2010-03-21 08010, 2010

      • chovy
        yeah
      • 2010-03-21 08019, 2010

      • chovy
        any other resources that i can get photos given an mbid?
      • 2010-03-21 08012, 2010

      • chovy
        i've got basic search results for an artist, but there isn't much content. I'd like to add photos at least.
      • 2010-03-21 08030, 2010

      • chovy
      • 2010-03-21 08045, 2010

      • chovy
        i need to get 'em in one query though.
      • 2010-03-21 08015, 2010

      • alastairp
        navap: that's pretty neat
      • 2010-03-21 08018, 2010

      • navap
        Where are you getting the pictures for the artists at the bottom?
      • 2010-03-21 08038, 2010

      • chovy
        those are from another api, that returns a list of similar artists to the search results.
      • 2010-03-21 08051, 2010

      • chovy
        it's a bit klunky though.
      • 2010-03-21 08052, 2010

      • navap
        alastairp: Yeah, see, people need to know about it!
      • 2010-03-21 08001, 2010

      • caillon
        hmm, hate to panhandle for votes, but i have a high quality edit with no votes yet that will be expiring in a few hours.... http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=12085972
      • 2010-03-21 08039, 2010

      • navap voted
      • 2010-03-21 08047, 2010

      • caillon
        navap, thanks
      • 2010-03-21 08053, 2010

      • chovy
        what am i voting on?
      • 2010-03-21 08014, 2010

      • navap
        The linked edit?
      • 2010-03-21 08001, 2010

      • navap
        chovy: It's ugly, but you could use Wikipedia relationships and parse the page and see if they have an artist photo available.
      • 2010-03-21 08055, 2010

      • navap
        The BBC also has photos, but I'm sure they're not open licensed http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/f82bcf78-5b69-…
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      • navap
        phew, that was a painfully long winded email.
      • 2010-03-21 08010, 2010

      • navap
        Seems I've caught the brianfreud bug :p
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      • awdyson
        anyone mind giving me a hand with syntax for the picard?
      • 2010-03-21 08042, 2010

      • awdyson
        I'm looking to move "the" to the end of file names
      • 2010-03-21 08008, 2010

      • alastairp
        you could use the artist sort name
      • 2010-03-21 08013, 2010

      • alastairp
        instead of the artist name
      • 2010-03-21 08021, 2010

      • alastairp
        which has those changes as a matter of style
      • 2010-03-21 08036, 2010

      • alastairp
        though it also puts names in Surname, Firstname format
      • 2010-03-21 08050, 2010

      • awdyson
        I'm going to be a bit of a charity case here
      • 2010-03-21 08058, 2010

      • awdyson
        (you've already lost me)
      • 2010-03-21 08059, 2010

      • awdyson
        ah, found it on the wiki
      • 2010-03-21 08005, 2010

      • awdyson
        I'll try my best with it
      • 2010-03-21 08008, 2010

      • awdyson
        thanks
      • 2010-03-21 08011, 2010

      • alastairp
        cool
      • 2010-03-21 08031, 2010

      • awdyson
        so it's a bit of a community maintained tag?
      • 2010-03-21 08018, 2010

      • alastairp
        what do you mean?
      • 2010-03-21 08027, 2010

      • alastairp
        all data is community maintained
      • 2010-03-21 08032, 2010

      • awdyson
        well, it's intelligent in it's discrimination of names
      • 2010-03-21 08056, 2010

      • awdyson
        I mean syntax tag
      • 2010-03-21 08006, 2010

      • awdyson
        sorry, poor word choice (may still be poor)
      • 2010-03-21 08055, 2010

      • awdyson
        I take it there is no albumsortname?
      • 2010-03-21 08000, 2010

      • alastairp
        you mean it's entered automatically rather than computer generated?
      • 2010-03-21 08009, 2010

      • alastairp
        pah,
      • 2010-03-21 08012, 2010

      • alastairp
        entered manually
      • 2010-03-21 08055, 2010

      • awdyson
        well, to cite the wiki, it knows to not change Cypress Hill to Hill, Cypress
      • 2010-03-21 08020, 2010

      • alastairp
        right, that's because someone made it 'Cypress Hill'
      • 2010-03-21 08029, 2010

      • awdyson
        ah
      • 2010-03-21 08008, 2010

      • awdyson
        and Clapton would be input as 'Eric' 'Clapton' or Eric Clapton, or something of the like?
      • 2010-03-21 08021, 2010

      • alastairp
        Claptop, Eric I suppose
      • 2010-03-21 08032, 2010

      • alastairp
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      • alastairp
        see the 3rd line down - after the birth date
      • 2010-03-21 08048, 2010

      • alastairp
        that's the "sortname"
      • 2010-03-21 08005, 2010

      • awdyson
        ahh
      • 2010-03-21 08006, 2010

      • awdyson
        ok
      • 2010-03-21 08017, 2010

      • awdyson
        fantastic, the preview looks proper
      • 2010-03-21 08046, 2010

      • awdyson
        and again, no AlbumSortName?
      • 2010-03-21 08056, 2010

      • navap
        Nope
      • 2010-03-21 08059, 2010

      • awdyson
        damn
      • 2010-03-21 08004, 2010

      • awdyson
        oh well
      • 2010-03-21 08009, 2010

      • alastairp
        how would that work?
      • 2010-03-21 08018, 2010

      • awdyson
        moving "the"s
      • 2010-03-21 08042, 2010

      • alastairp
        from the title of the album?
      • 2010-03-21 08047, 2010

      • awdyson
        not nearly as important as the artist sort, but would've been nice to use if it existed
      • 2010-03-21 08048, 2010

      • navap
        I don't know why the ID3 spec has an album sort name frame.
      • 2010-03-21 08049, 2010

      • awdyson
        yup
      • 2010-03-21 08012, 2010

      • navap
        If it's just the "the"s that are being ignored, any player could do that automatically.
      • 2010-03-21 08033, 2010

      • awdyson
        or I could do it by hand
      • 2010-03-21 08039, 2010

      • awdyson
        just being a bit spoiled
      • 2010-03-21 08043, 2010

      • awdyson
        :D
      • 2010-03-21 08001, 2010

      • awdyson
        well, have a good night/day based on where you are
      • 2010-03-21 08006, 2010

      • awdyson
        and thanks again
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      • brianfreud
        lol, navap, I started to write a response to that email, then I realized it was from you, not jacobbrett
      • 2010-03-21 08029, 2010

      • navap
        haha
      • 2010-03-21 08039, 2010

      • navap
        I imagine you disagree with a few things in it :)
      • 2010-03-21 08009, 2010

      • brianfreud
        :P
      • 2010-03-21 08041, 2010

      • brianfreud
        ok... I really am trying to understand his SwissChris' complaint about the ordering of things in the PARC proposal...
      • 2010-03-21 08031, 2010

      • brianfreud
        Is there some difference in meaning (that's escaping me) between "3/4 and half" vs "half and 3/4" - assuming that was actually what the proposed text even said?
      • 2010-03-21 08040, 2010

      • brianfreud is referring to "it says that half should be treated the same as 3/4 (which is not quite the same thing)"
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      • navap
        brianfreud: One thing I don't understand is why a lot of your proposals have borken links in them to non-existant pages.
      • 2010-03-21 08024, 2010

      • brianfreud
        what borken links?
      • 2010-03-21 08036, 2010

      • navap
        Broken* :)
      • 2010-03-21 08058, 2010

      • navap
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      • brianfreud
        no, I got that. :D I mean, what broken pages?
      • 2010-03-21 08019, 2010

      • brianfreud
        the attribute pages?
      • 2010-03-21 08023, 2010

      • navap
        Yeah
      • 2010-03-21 08003, 2010

      • brianfreud
        Ah. As I mentioned in my reply to SwissChris, half the existing Attribute pages are currently missing (them, plus the 8 or so ARs that were missing pages).
      • 2010-03-21 08026, 2010

      • navap
        Do the attributes need separate pages though?
      • 2010-03-21 08031, 2010

      • brianfreud
        The AR template auto-generates the link to that page; I just haven't touch the attribute pages yet.
      • 2010-03-21 08050, 2010

      • navap
        Will their definitions always stay the same no matter the relationship using that attribute?
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      • brianfreud
        My guess is that they'll mostly be just "this attribute is used by the following ARs" backlink pages, for the ones that don't already exist
      • 2010-03-21 08010, 2010

      • navap
        If that's the case then I would much rather not have them there.
      • 2010-03-21 08018, 2010

      • navap
        We don't need more atomization.
      • 2010-03-21 08019, 2010

      • brianfreud
        No, but I think the original idea (which still makes sense to me) was that an attribute always be used in a semi-consistent manner
      • 2010-03-21 08034, 2010

      • navap
        Yeah I get that.
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      • brianfreud
        the "transliterated" attr being different than the multiple uses of the "translated" attr for example
      • 2010-03-21 08055, 2010

      • navap
        But it looks like the attribute will always be described on the relationship page, so adding a separate page is silly.
      • 2010-03-21 08007, 2010

      • brianfreud
        as I say, it's mainly a backlink page
      • 2010-03-21 08017, 2010

      • brianfreud
        but the same is pretty much true of family pages
      • 2010-03-21 08026, 2010

      • navap
        We do not need more backlink pages.
      • 2010-03-21 08043, 2010

      • brianfreud
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:BrianSchweitzer/… <- you can see which already exist, and which don't
      • 2010-03-21 08035, 2010

      • navap
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Performer_Relationshi… provides everything I need to know.
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      • navap
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      • brianfreud
        however, that said, the description used on the site *is* consistent in the attr definition, so there theoretically could be further detail on such a page.
      • 2010-03-21 08023, 2010

      • navap
        hm?
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      • brianfreud
        Some will be stub-ish back-linkish. Others, not so much (vocal, instrument, orchesta as examples)