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      • Leftmost
        Anyone have some patience I can borrow?
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      • ruaok
        I'm outta patience, but I have plenty of cups of STFU....
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      • ruaok
        people keep handing them to me. :-)
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      • Leftmost
        Hmm. If I need any of that, I'm sure someone around has plenty extra for me.:)
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      • Leftmost
        I find that I always make my edits while I'm tagging new rips. And that's when I always notice that someone screwed up the metadata. And then I have to change it in Picard.:)
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      • Leftmost
        I need a way either for my edits to take effect instantly or to get Picard to pull in changed metadata.
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      • ruaok
        pull the changed metadata is the way to go.
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      • ruaok
        but it requires smarts on the server so the server doesn't get overloaded.
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      • ruaok
        its something I've been wanting for years, but I've been thwarted so far. :(
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      • Leftmost
        Hmm. I'd say have the server store some sort of virtual copy of the metadata that can get pulled down, but that would inflate the database severely.
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      • ruaok nods
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      • eze
        aye that would be fantastic, i too have that problem semi regularly Leftmost
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      • Leftmost
        Clearly I'm the only one capable of tagging music. *shakes head*
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      • Leftmost
        Hmm. If a classical track contains more than one movement, are they separated by slashes or by dashes?
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      • navap
        A slash sounds more appropriate than a dash to me.
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      • Leftmost
        Ergh. I want to change the tagging on this album but it's not even particularly consistent on the back of the case.
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      • Leftmost
        I'm also tempted to change it to original language, but who knows how that'll go over.
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      • Munger
        I finally got around to listening to Paolo Nutini's 'Sunny Side Up' album. My God! I haven't enjoyed listening to a new release so much in 20 years :-)
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      • Leftmost
        Hmm. Should it maybe be another release under the same release group? It's the same recording, it looks like, but released by different labels. My copy is multilingual (wherein my leaning would be original language, not English), but perhaps the later release by another group isn't and should be left in English.
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      • MightyJay
        After adding a bunch of "has lyrics at" ARs to a lot of Metallica songs (e.g., http://lyrics.wikia.com/Metallica:One) someone suggested using the "official version" of the lyrics (e.g., http://lyrics.wikia.com/Gracenote:Metallica:One) Is there any guideline/preference on this?
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      • MBChatLogger
        Ponies and sunshine and myspace and glitter!!
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      • MightyJay
        I doubt I'll find anything on myspace about this little bot ;)
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      • KRSCuan
        MBChatLogger says no.
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      • KRSCuan
        I'm not sure.
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      • MightyJay
        is this something I should ask on the style mailinglist?
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      • brianfreud_
        The AR is new, and that didn't come up in the discussion, so yes, I'd suggest it
      • 2010-03-02 06128, 2010

      • MBChatLogger
        We did it!
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      • brianfreud_
        Oh, btw, mbchatlogger: Did Bush invent TRM, or was that SCO? Any ideas how we can get Obama to make the US government all drop Microsoft Windows and Gracenote and use open source stuff? :D
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      • Muz
        DROP TABLE trm; was dropped. ¬_¬
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      • brianfreud_
        looks like windows == pure evil was dropped too
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      • KRSCuan
        Something seems to be wrong with the artist entry for The (International) Noise Conspiracy: http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=8700
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      • KRSCuan
        It's probably best explained with a picture: http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3172/tinc.png
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      • KRSCuan
        The main entry isn't found by the lookup, which is why someone created a dupe artist.
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      • KRSCuan
        Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong there?
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      • KRSCuan
        I have the same problem when trying to merge the bogus entry into the main one.
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      • fatih
        Direct search can't find the original. http://musicbrainz.org/search/oldsearch.html?quer…
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      • aCiD2 didn't think YouTube auto transcribe could be so funny
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      • aCiD2
        audio: "I'll grab a bite to eat while you figure out the 2s and the 5s" transcribed: "I'll grab a bite to eat while you figure out changing your lives"
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      • navap
        Did you watch part 2 of that video with the transciption on??
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      • navap
        haha
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      • aCiD2
        i am now :D
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      • navap
        Yeah I did it to :)
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      • aCiD2
        for fun :P
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      • aCiD2
        i didn't even know about this feature
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      • nikki
        how do you use this auto transcribe thing?
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      • navap
        I think it's only certain videos.
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      • aCiD2
        I hovered over the "CC" button on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeT0pOVg0EI
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      • nikki
        cool :o
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      • nikki wants it on more videos
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      • nikki stamps her foot impatiently!
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      • dwr
        you can add it to your own videos, but apart from that i think it's the official/edu chans
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      • aCiD2
        better let the devy people be devy for now
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      • alastairp
        OK :)
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      • alastairp
        apparently we do a few things wrong
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      • alastairp
        mostly around our morning standup
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      • aCiD2
        too long?
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      • alastairp
        we've been trying to fix that ourselves
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      • alastairp
        but we've been using it as a project status update
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      • alastairp
        rather than a really quick "this is what I'm doing today, these are the things that are blocking me"
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      • aCiD2
        when should you get the update in?
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      • alastairp
        and the manager is meant to unblock them for you
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      • alastairp
        yeah, not too sure, I'm going to clarify that with him
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      • aCiD2
        I'd think a morning meeting would be about "we're here, we want to be here, so what are you going to do today to help?" type thing
      • 2010-03-02 06122, 2010

      • aCiD2
        sounds like that's kinda what you guys were doing
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      • alastairp
        yeah, and that's what I liked about ours, with 5 people working on the same app
      • 2010-03-02 06139, 2010

      • alastairp
        it's good to know who's where
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      • navap
        I really like LyricWiki's page structure. It makes it really easy to go a songs page straight from foobar using just the metadata from the song.
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      • nikki
        pity it doesn't work for non-latin stuff or artists with the same name :/
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      • nikki thinks mbids would be far better >D
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      • navap
        Oh certainly, but it's a lot better setup then what I had previously. (i.e. nothing :p)
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      • ruaok
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      • navap
        Ooh is it that time of year again?
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      • navap loves stats
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      • ruaok
        yeah, I'd like to pound out the annual report today, so I can focus on better things
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      • alastairp
        wos, that's impressive growth
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      • alastairp
        wow, too
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      • ruaok
        we keep doubling year over year.
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      • ruaok
        that's nice, healthy and maintainable growth.
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      • ruaok
        just the way I like it.
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      • ruaok
        but the damn, RDF WS won't die.
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      • ruaok
        still had 45M hits last year.
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      • alastairp
        that's crazy
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      • nikki
        I thought the ws was nearly all of the site hits?
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      • Muz
        I take it RDF is going bye bye with NGS?
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      • alastairp
        yeah
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      • ruaok
        in 2007 - 2009 it was: 53%, 51%, 60%
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      • ruaok
        but, this is hits, not pageviews.
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      • Muz
        DROP TABLE rdf! ¬_¬
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      • ruaok
        so, hits include images and other silly things.
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      • ruaok
        so, as far as pages served, its probably closer to 90%
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      • nikki
        ahh right
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      • nikki
        I was about to suggest that
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      • nikki
        brianfreud_: in theory you can just put any art you want online, get archive.org to archive it and then link to that, so that's not a very good argument :P
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      • nikki prods navap too
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      • navap
        I'm here.
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      • brianfreud_
        nikki: Hence why archive.org required ruoak to get legal clearance before it was allowed.
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      • navap
        And yeah, archive.org pretty much trumps all.
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      • nikki
        it was allowed long before we had official permission from them
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      • brianfreud_
        But there's a difference between an archive.org and a someRandomSiteIMade.info
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      • navap
        Not really. archive.org can be used to gain access to somerandomsiteimade.info
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      • nikki
        and we mostly deal with cover art by not storing it ourselves, if someone has a problem with someone having their cover art online, there's not much we can do because we don't host any of it
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      • brianfreud_
        navap: but then we're linking to archive.org, not someRandomSite.info
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      • navap
        Yeah that's why I said archive.org trumps all.