19:50 PM
iGadget
yes, that would be better
2010-08-01 21329, 2010
19:50 PM
iGadget
precisely
2010-08-01 21318, 2010
19:51 PM
iGadget
IMHO the changes should/could be reflected to the editor only, with a clear indication that his/her edit still awaits moderation
2010-08-01 21345, 2010
19:51 PM
iGadget
...but I guess that involves a major system overhaul for the site admins ;)
2010-08-01 21355, 2010
19:51 PM
kepstin
yeah. Right now everybody gets the same view (which is a lot easier on the database server, which isn't too happy right now)
2010-08-01 21322, 2010
19:52 PM
kepstin
note that anything with pending changes is currently highlighted in yellow, so you can see where there are edits waiting.
2010-08-01 21319, 2010
19:53 PM
iGadget
I noticed that... so the database load issues still exist? I ran across a blog entry about this, which was several years old..
2010-08-01 21322, 2010
19:54 PM
iGadget
okay, so what's the best way to add all the remaining CD's to this release group?
2010-08-01 21351, 2010
19:54 PM
kepstin
If you go to the release group page, there will be an 'add release' link in the header which will add a release directly to that release group.
2010-08-01 21322, 2010
19:55 PM
iGadget
great. I'll try that.
2010-08-01 21328, 2010
19:57 PM
iGadget
one more thing - Picard won't come up with any result for the CD's in this box when I put them into my CD drive, until the edits have been approved?
2010-08-01 21348, 2010
19:57 PM
iGadget
(after I've added them to the MB database, of course)
2010-08-01 21305, 2010
19:58 PM
kepstin
iGadget, no. Picard sees exactly the same thing as what you see on the website
2010-08-01 21324, 2010
19:58 PM
kepstin
so it'll see the releases that you've added, but not the changes that you made after adding them.
2010-08-01 21354, 2010
19:58 PM
iGadget
well... that's odd, then. The first CD is on the site, but when I put the CD in my drive, Picard doesn't recognize it
2010-08-01 21312, 2010
19:59 PM
kepstin
You have to associate the CD TOC with the release so that Picard knows which information to use
2010-08-01 21336, 2010
19:59 PM
iGadget
hmmm... let me try that again
2010-08-01 21345, 2010
20:00 PM
kepstin
2010-08-01 21341, 2010
20:02 PM
kepstin
hmm. the musicbrainz documentation is rather tricky to find your way around. I got there by manually typing a guessed URL then following a link :(
2010-08-01 21301, 2010
20:03 PM
iGadget
I remember doing this before, but sometimes in the search process, the 'select this release' button is lost
2010-08-01 21312, 2010
20:03 PM
iGadget
I got it this time, though
2010-08-01 21318, 2010
20:03 PM
iGadget
TOC added :)
2010-08-01 21342, 2010
20:03 PM
Mineo
kepstin: the search function also let's you search through the docs :)
2010-08-01 21315, 2010
20:04 PM
iGadget
...and Picard now recognizes the CD. Working! :D
2010-08-01 21325, 2010
20:04 PM
kepstin
Mineo, where's the doc search page? I can't find it.
2010-08-01 21354, 2010
20:04 PM
Mineo
2010-08-01 21331, 2010
20:05 PM
iGadget
Now for cover art... if Picard doesn't find any (using the plug in), how do I manually add cover art to tracks?
2010-08-01 21338, 2010
20:05 PM
kepstin
ah, I didn't see the second search box under the main one on the search page that I never use because there's a search box on any page :/
2010-08-01 21301, 2010
20:06 PM
nikki
2010-08-01 21330, 2010
20:06 PM
kepstin
iGadget, if you can link an amazon page to the release, picard will be able to find the album art.
2010-08-01 21301, 2010
20:07 PM
kepstin
otherwise you might have to use a different program to manually add the album art.
2010-08-01 21326, 2010
20:07 PM
iGadget
Allright... that's something that could be more clearly mentioned in the Picard docs :D
2010-08-01 21301, 2010
20:08 PM
kepstin
yeah, picard only uses information from the musicbrainz database, so you have to tell musicbrainz where to find the album art.
2010-08-01 21324, 2010
20:08 PM
iGadget
I'll try that now for the box I'm working on. But it's not on Amazon...
2010-08-01 21349, 2010
20:08 PM
iGadget
does it have to be a direct link to the graphic itself?
2010-08-01 21356, 2010
20:08 PM
kepstin
there's a couple of other link types that can be used, but they are quite limited. Most sites don't like it if you directly link to the graphic
2010-08-01 21333, 2010
20:10 PM
kepstin
2010-08-01 21351, 2010
20:11 PM
nikki
2010-08-01 21347, 2010
20:12 PM
iGadget
nikki: but, according to the doc link kepstin just mentioned, that site isn't allowed to link to...
2010-08-01 21308, 2010
20:13 PM
kepstin
iGadget, look a little closer. "archive.org" is allowed :)
2010-08-01 21325, 2010
20:13 PM
iGadget
ah :)
2010-08-01 21344, 2010
20:14 PM
kepstin
I had actually forgotten about that.
2010-08-01 21300, 2010
20:15 PM
kepstin goes and adds album art to a couple of indie releases
2010-08-01 21312, 2010
20:15 PM
nikki
hehe
2010-08-01 21339, 2010
20:15 PM
iGadget
so... this linking is done through the 'Use this release in a relationship' link?
2010-08-01 21306, 2010
20:16 PM
iGadget
no
2010-08-01 21309, 2010
20:16 PM
iGadget
hmmm
2010-08-01 21311, 2010
20:16 PM
kepstin
iGadget, to link to a website, you click "Relate to URL"
2010-08-01 21321, 2010
20:17 PM
iGadget
kepstin: thanks, working :)
2010-08-01 21343, 2010
20:18 PM
iGadget
well... that was the 'crash course adding your box set to MB' so far ;)
2010-08-01 21303, 2010
20:19 PM
iGadget
only 14 CD's to go for this set :P
2010-08-01 21324, 2010
20:19 PM
nikki
at least it's not one of those crazy 150 cd classical things ;)
2010-08-01 21334, 2010
20:19 PM
iGadget
oh I have those as well :D
2010-08-01 21355, 2010
20:19 PM
iGadget
several, actually...
2010-08-01 21313, 2010
20:20 PM
iGadget prays somebody has already entered them at MB
2010-08-01 21338, 2010
20:20 PM
iGadget
Classical CD's are a major pain anyway
2010-08-01 21310, 2010
20:21 PM
iGadget
I still have to find a decent audio player which actually works with all the metadata required for classical works
2010-08-01 21311, 2010
20:21 PM
nikki
I know some people have *started* adding some, but I don't know how many people actually managed to enter the entire set they have
2010-08-01 21328, 2010
20:21 PM
nikki just runs far far away from classical
2010-08-01 21348, 2010
20:21 PM
iGadget
Oh I love classical...
2010-08-01 21300, 2010
20:22 PM
iGadget
but the metadata is just a major pain :)
2010-08-01 21304, 2010
20:22 PM
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20:22 PM
iGadget
artist?
2010-08-01 21323, 2010
20:22 PM
iGadget
what artist...
2010-08-01 21334, 2010
20:22 PM
iGadget
composer!
2010-08-01 21338, 2010
20:22 PM
iGadget
no... conductor
2010-08-01 21343, 2010
20:22 PM
iGadget
or... ARGH
2010-08-01 21308, 2010
20:23 PM
kepstin
ooh. that's awesome.
archive.org has old versions of sites with some music metadata I was looking for.
2010-08-01 21340, 2010
20:23 PM
iGadget will be right back
2010-08-01 21307, 2010
20:25 PM
kepstin
hmm. It doesn't have a newer version of the site with recent album art tho :(
2010-08-01 21357, 2010
20:25 PM
nikki
what about if you try loading an archived version of the image you want?
2010-08-01 21309, 2010
20:26 PM
kepstin
nikki, not present.
2010-08-01 21313, 2010
20:26 PM
nikki
hmm...
2010-08-01 21320, 2010
20:26 PM
nikki
2010-08-01 21330, 2010
20:26 PM
nikki
sometimes it'll fetch the image right there and then
2010-08-01 21324, 2010
20:27 PM
kepstin
http://alst.net/ is an annoying website to work with. They redesigned their site early 2008, and dropped all of the info for releases prior to that from the site :/
2010-08-01 21318, 2010
20:28 PM
kepstin
and the newest
archive.org copy of that page is from 2007
2010-08-01 21325, 2010
20:28 PM
kepstin
so there's a year of missing information.
2010-08-01 21339, 2010
20:28 PM
nikki
:/
2010-08-01 21339, 2010
20:31 PM
kepstin
except that some of their older releases had static pages. And if you can find a link to the static page from somewhere else on the internet, it might still be there.
2010-08-01 21327, 2010
20:38 PM
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21:07 PM
kepstin
lol, that's hilarious. apparently as a result of my browsing the site,
archive.org did queue an update
2010-08-01 21340, 2010
21:24 PM
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21:41 PM
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21:44 PM
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22:33 PM
iGadget
darn
2010-08-01 21337, 2010
22:33 PM
iGadget
2010-08-01 21349, 2010
22:33 PM
iGadget
can't be linked as cover art :(
2010-08-01 21351, 2010
22:34 PM
iGadget
ohwell
2010-08-01 21358, 2010
22:34 PM
iGadget
time to get some sleep
2010-08-01 21306, 2010
22:39 PM
kurtjx
hello
2010-08-01 21324, 2010
22:45 PM
nikki
2010-08-01 21357, 2010
23:03 PM
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2010-08-01 21305, 2010
23:04 PM
oliverc`
does anyone have the phone number for metabrainz?
2010-08-01 21316, 2010
23:04 PM
oliverc`
I need it for my flat application, but I can't seem to actually find a number anywhere
2010-08-01 21310, 2010
23:08 PM
navap
oliverc`: I'd use the phone number that whois returns.
