when an album is made, I'd like to know the process by which cover art gets decided.
2007-12-20 35424, 2007
ruaok
next year is fine.
2007-12-20 35434, 2007
yllona
marsalis music is already interested in MB
2007-12-20 35435, 2007
warp
goodevening!
2007-12-20 35440, 2007
ruaok
hi warp!
2007-12-20 35453, 2007
ruaok
so, you're cutting an album.
2007-12-20 35455, 2007
yllona
ruaok: i can answer that for you
2007-12-20 35400, 2007
ruaok
you "hire" an artist?
2007-12-20 35412, 2007
warp
looks like i'm missing an interesting walter/wendy discussion :)
2007-12-20 35420, 2007
ruaok
you find pieces of art and say: "that's it!" we'll use it.
2007-12-20 35431, 2007
yllona
ruaok: yes good so far. but my boyz often commission new art work
2007-12-20 35443, 2007
ruaok
since the labels don't normally sign for the right to cover art....
2007-12-20 35445, 2007
yllona
they're totally legit on the cover art
2007-12-20 35452, 2007
ruaok
ah. so they commission it and pay the artist for the work.
2007-12-20 35407, 2007
ruaok
easy case if its commissioned.
2007-12-20 35407, 2007
yllona
yes, right down to XMas cards (no joke)
2007-12-20 35416, 2007
ruaok
understandbly.
2007-12-20 35424, 2007
ruaok
art is art and (c) is (c)
2007-12-20 35431, 2007
CatCat
ruaok!! i found a borked file i hadn't fixed yet!
2007-12-20 35435, 2007
ruaok
yay.
2007-12-20 35443, 2007
CatCat
i shall rerpit it and send the fresh fiel and the borked oen to yoy
2007-12-20 35447, 2007
CatCat
\o/
2007-12-20 35457, 2007
CatCat
email?
2007-12-20 35457, 2007
ruaok
CatCat: please make an extra copy of the file.
2007-12-20 35405, 2007
ruaok
send borked and pre-borked.
2007-12-20 35407, 2007
warp waves to catcat
2007-12-20 35408, 2007
CatCat
what do you mean?
2007-12-20 35409, 2007
ruaok
yes.
2007-12-20 35415, 2007
yllona
ruaok: for photos, if it's abstract represenation (for example) not directly of the msuicians -- they license the the photos
2007-12-20 35419, 2007
CatCat
warp!
2007-12-20 35424, 2007
CatCat does the time warp again
2007-12-20 35429, 2007
ruaok
you have a borked file, right? send it. then fix it. send that too.
2007-12-20 35429, 2007
warp
nooooooo
2007-12-20 35442, 2007
CatCat
to get pre borked i need to re-rip ok?
2007-12-20 35448, 2007
CatCat
ok!
2007-12-20 35456, 2007
ruaok
yllona: good. are the any royalties associated with cover art?
2007-12-20 35459, 2007
CatCat
so borked, and fixed, not borked and prebork
2007-12-20 35404, 2007
symphonick has quit
2007-12-20 35406, 2007
ruaok
sure.
2007-12-20 35415, 2007
yllona
ruaok: if the photo is a portrait, then they establish a "business relationship" with that artist
2007-12-20 35421, 2007
CatCat
if i re-rip i can send both at once :D
2007-12-20 35438, 2007
ruaok
yllona: yep. but I am wondering about the typical arrangement.
2007-12-20 35451, 2007
ruaok
the art is licensed on a one time basis, not an ongoing basis, right?
2007-12-20 35451, 2007
brianfreud
yllona: Also, are covers designed under a work for hire, or are only specific use-rights transferred?
2007-12-20 35456, 2007
warp wonders if irssi will let him view the same channel in two seperate windows.
2007-12-20 35412, 2007
ruaok
brianfreud: well put. thats what I am trying to ask
2007-12-20 35445, 2007
yllona
ruaok: royalties may or may not be included, depending on how the contract has been negotiated. is the photo a "one time thing"? or is it part of an oevre or portfolio?
2007-12-20 35459, 2007
ruaok
got it.
2007-12-20 35406, 2007
ruaok
do you have a feel for what is typical?
2007-12-20 35427, 2007
yllona
the famed photographer frank stewart has been travelling with wynton for damn near 20 year
2007-12-20 35400, 2007
ruaok
I wonder how many photographers get per copy royalties.
2007-12-20 35409, 2007
ruaok
I guess you'd have to be seriously hot shit for that to happen.
2007-12-20 35424, 2007
yllona
he's published numerous books of jazz musicians, including specific photos/books about the marsalis(s)
2007-12-20 35450, 2007
yllona
ruaok: yes it's common for famous fashion photographers
2007-12-20 35411, 2007
brianfreud is suddenly very glad that every bit of art he ever used for college groups' liners he got the artists to make public domain first
2007-12-20 35446, 2007
yllona
ruaok: typical? you pay the photographer for the photos, select specific images for license as cover art, grant permission for use of photos in books/exhibits
2007-12-20 35451, 2007
CatCat
that was a-head thinking brain
2007-12-20 35402, 2007
ruaok
phone
2007-12-20 35408, 2007
yllona
cool,
2007-12-20 35414, 2007
yllona
let me call you
2007-12-20 35445, 2007
outsidecontext leaves for holidays and wishes everybody a nice christmas
2007-12-20 35420, 2007
outsidecontext has quit
2007-12-20 35451, 2007
brianfreud
anyone able to semi-read kana and want a challenge? :)
2007-12-20 35415, 2007
Magic8ball has quit
2007-12-20 35433, 2007
warp
brianfreud: i'm curious about the challenge, but don't read kana.
2007-12-20 35430, 2007
warp
ruaok: if you make any decision on how to solve the walter/wendy thing, can you let me know? i'd like to inform ppl in edits and the mailinglist about it (though you're obviously free to do that yourself too ;).
2007-12-20 35450, 2007
brianfreud
warp, lol, you know this one already :P
2007-12-20 35407, 2007
brianfreud
Y.... Soundtrack
2007-12-20 35434, 2007
warp
haha, ok.. i've done what I can on that. good luck with finding someone to accept that challenge ;)
2007-12-20 35423, 2007
brianfreud
lol
2007-12-20 35403, 2007
brianfreud
well, I think it was one of only three I wasn't able to clean up... left a note for the editor on the other, and mentioned the third on the mailinglist...
2007-12-20 35420, 2007
warp
the other two aren't asian?
2007-12-20 35455, 2007
brianfreud
nope
2007-12-20 35412, 2007
CatCat
what kana?
2007-12-20 35431, 2007
CatCat
somebody help me, how do i make a zip arcive on a mac?
