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      • brianfreud
        L(O
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      • warp
        hah, no jackpots on DDR, that should be a feature though.
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        wow, no talking since i left.
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        Guysmiley has joined #Musicbrainz
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      • Guysmiley
        Arrrr
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      • Guysmiley
        Anybody around?
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      • Clint
        no
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      • Guysmiley
        perfect; i'll wait
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      • stillLotR
        stillLotR is now known as LotR
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      • BrianG
        w00t going to see RJD2 next week
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      • brianfreud
        hmmm, interesting decision in the French courts, but the numbers seem off - I’ve sold Acer laptops, software and all, for less than this court claimed was the value of just the software... http://perso.libre-zone.net/article-125-proc-dure…
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      • Guysmiley
        If an album A is released in some year and the exact same track list is subsequently released with a different album name and different album art (album B) is the release year for album B equal to album A? See troymandt's comments in my edit http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7553524.
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      • Guysmiley
        [afk for a few minutes]
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      • LotR
        brianfreud: 600 euros for a laptop is about as low as it gets here in .nl at least
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      • brianfreud
        Guysmiley: That always seems one of the messy situations. However, the release date for A and B would seem to be separate, in your described situation. The date that B was released has nothing to do with the date that A was released, after all...
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      • brianfreud
        LotR: Well, for Acers, I know I sold some low-end models as low as $350 US back in January (they were loss leaders, cost, iirc, was around $348.50).
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      • LotR
        sucks to be in the EU for buying hardware I think
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      • brianfreud
        yeah, I used to get lots of business from the UK and Japan
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      • srotta
        LotR: It's just that Europeans don't buy crap ;)
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      • LotR
        srotta: no, the same hardware is more expensive here than in the US
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      • srotta
        Mostly yeah, depends on the hardware. Although the difference isn't big enough so that I would actually go and buy anything from US.
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      • srotta
        Well, the strong euro has made it a bit more appealing, but still.
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      • srotta
        (Typically the low point for laptops here is around 450 euros.)
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      • LotR
        hmm. maybe .nl is worse than .fi
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      • srotta
        Computer hardware has always been cheapish in Finland.
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      • LotR
        still, 450 EUR is $633. that's getting close to double to what brianfreud is quoting
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      • LotR
        of course, I don't know if there's a difference between what is low-end in the us and in finland
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      • srotta
        Yeah.
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      • brianfreud
        yes, but the other half is how crappy are those low low end laptops
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      • brianfreud
        40 GB, 15 inch screen, short short battery life, etc
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      • srotta
        Yeah, I'd rather take 10 inch screen, but it's hard to come by 8)
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      • BrianG
        with NGS are ASINs and such going to be tied to release events rather than releases?
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      • CatCat
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      • brianfreud
        brianG, I think so
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      • srotta
        What are those artists, and more to the point, what are the releases?
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      • brianfreud
        I thought we used the author, not the performer, for audio books?
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      • srotta
        And yeah, I don't see any reason for artist "Written by...".
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      • brianfreud
        I think the resulting alias would end up being rather a bogus one for Brian Blessed though
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      • srotta
        Well, you can always remove the alias.
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      • srotta
        And those don't look like audio books.
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      • srotta
        They are compilations that has one track read?
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      • brianfreud
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      • CatCat
        indeed the writer of the book soudl be the artist for books, afaik
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      • Guysmiley
        brianfreud: Thanks for the advice, I'll cancel my edit and resubmit.
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      • ruaok waves
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      • brianfreud waves back
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      • ruaok queues up bug fixing tunes
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      • FauxFaux
        Hide, server, ruaok is coming!
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      • ruaok
        heh. :)
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      • BrianG
        ruaok: i can't vote in the current autoeditor election. it says i'm not an autoeditor.
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      • ruaok
        log out and back in.
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      • BrianG
        ah, thanks
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      • Guysmiley
        If I'm entering a release event for an album that predates CD's, if I enter "CD" as the format should I use the later release date for the CD and enter a separate release event for vinyl or is it ok to use the old date for the CD format?
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      • srotta
        Separate dates for different media.
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      • Guysmiley
        thanks
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      • brianfreud
        Guysmiley: think of it this way - that cd, lp, whatever, has info that is singular to it. So the date, the media type, etc, is all specific to just that one physical media.
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      • brianfreud
        So just as you wouldn’t mix and match the dates of A and B, you wouldn’t mix and match the media types with the dates.
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      • Guysmiley
        Right. I just thought that in cases where the CD format is the only releae event it makes the album look newer than it is. I understand the correct rationale, though.
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      • brianfreud
        well, the CD would have it’s own release date, in that case, right?
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      • brianfreud
        just means there’s also perhaps an older date for a different type of media
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      • Guysmiley
        right
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      • yllona
        ruaok: is it raining cats & dogs up your way?
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      • ruaok
        no!
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      • ruaok
        the rain skirted SLO.
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      • ruaok
        clouds passed over, but nothing more than a few drops.
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      • yllona
        it's absolutely *pouring* down here, and has been since last night. i mean like *wow*
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      • ruaok points to http://www.flickr.com/photos/mayhem/1424553100/
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      • ruaok
        :-(
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      • yllona
        the rain was load enough to wake me up several times, and we even had thunder(!)
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      • ruaok
        nada for us.
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      • ruaok
        while I was at the burn peeps here reported of a thunderstorm that lasted all night!
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      • ruaok
        we had better weather on the playa than people here. cooler, too.
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      • ruaok
        very odd.
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      • yllona
        beautifil pic, but that's just SLO in general :)
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      • ruaok
        :-)
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      • ruaok
        the iphone camera is so-so.
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      • ruaok
        if i would've brought my real camera the pics would been much better.
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      • yllona
        ah you got one? i'd be all over it if the iphone had EVDO in stead of edge
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      • yllona
        or AT&T had EVDO rather
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      • ruaok
        heh, we still don't have evdo here. but we have edge.
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      • ruaok
        so as far as I am concerned from SLO, EVERY aspect of my experience got better.
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      • ruaok
        slightly worse cell receoption.
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      • yllona
        sprints at EVDO rev B. it's impressive
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      • ruaok
        but the phone will pay for itself in 10 months time, due to the cheaper plan.
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      • yllona
        *sprint has
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      • ruaok
        so far, I'm quite pleased.
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      • yllona
        oh yes, it's a wondrous gadget. my favorite bartender has one, and let's me play with it.
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      • ruaok
        I was doing a much better job of keeping up with email while at FMC.
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      • ruaok
        the treo web stuff I would use only under duress.
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      • yllona
        typing is a bit tough for me (especially with a buzz), but i'm pretty sure the screen can be calibrated, i'm not gonna mess with the settings on another person's phone tho ;)
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      • ruaok
        not so with the iphone.
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      • ruaok
        yes, typing is still a bit of a challenge.
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      • ruaok
        but its learning my shenanigans, so its getting better.
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      • CatCat
        lol talkign about rain :P
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      • CatCat
        :)
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      • yllona
        CatCat: it almost never rains in Southern Caifornia, we're in the midst of the longest drought in over 100 yeaars
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      • ruaok
        yllona: that pocket of rain on top of you may reach here.
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      • ruaok keeps his fingers crossed.
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      • yllona
        get ready, it's nice to have rain t hough (finally). i'm thinking we may be in for a rather wet winter