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      • CatCat
        hmm
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      • CatCat
        do you think he wrote ca-TAB- ?
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      • brianfreud
        lol, I get "hi brainzbot" all the time too :D
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      • CatCat
        o_O
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      • canidae
        he should beat up his irc client. mine tab completes to the last active nick
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      • CatCat
        i think yours was?
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      • brianfreud
        mirc just goes alphabetical
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      • nikki
        I don't understand what colloquy does
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      • nikki
        e.g. ca[tab] goes to CatCat but br[tab] goes to BrainzBot
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      • brianfreud
        maybe it alphabetizes capitals first?
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      • nikki
        m[tab] is MClemo...
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      • brianfreud
        looks like it, yeah - MC > Ma
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      • nikki
        and j[tab] is juhae
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      • brianfreud
        ok, hmmm, wierd
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      • nikki
        told you I don't know what it does :P
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      • symphonick
        MClemo, I can only find links like http://www.lastfm.se/music/Tom+Waits/Eurovisions+…
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      • nikki
        irssi does it nicely
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      • MClemo
        symphonick: me too. I'll make an edit to remove it. If someone shows up who knows what it is... but I doubt it
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      • MClemo
        but there are a lot of last.fm users listening to it?
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      • MClemo
        so maybe removing isn't such a good idea
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      • symphonick
        They may have downloaded it?
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      • nikki
        it might just be files that mbtagger tagged as that?
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      • MClemo
        ok, so removing is a good idea? :)
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        \o/ \o/
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      • nikki
        I don't know if I would say it's a *good* idea, but I would go for quality over quantity
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      • nikki
        if it really does exist, someone can always re-add it and give us more information
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      • CatCat
        i think it is time we start being a bit more harsh when it coems to artists wich are "popular" Ie: has most of their releases already in the database
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      • CatCat
        with harsh i mean vote no where peopel provide no evidence and theri entries are crappy
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      • nikki
        plus it's impossible to prove non-existence, but possible to prove existence :)
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      • CatCat
        entry pages should say "please give us some info and/or links"
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      • CatCat
        i know only one exeption
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      • CatCat
        one balckfoot sue release is written on theri site as "never exsisting2
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      • CatCat
        it has a tracklist on lots of sites, but it was never relkeased
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      • CatCat
        as in it was never put on *tape*
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      • nikki
        but it can still exist as a bootleg, surely?
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      • CatCat
        nope
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      • CatCat
        hang on, let me find the link
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      • brianfreud
        mo, that was kind of the logic I used when I was trying to hit all the add edits
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      • brianfreud
        "I'll give you plenty of time - 7 to 10 days - but if you don't provide some proof this exists, anything, even a scrap of proof, then before the edit expires, I'm voting no.
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        e escalating conflict between the band and their management meant that the album was never officially released, though white label test pressings do exist."
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      • CatCat
        hmm
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      • brianfreud
        yeah, someone prob bootlegged a test pressing
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      • nikki
        the only problem I have with people voting no is when people vote no unless there's some proof only hours before the edit is due to close
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      • MClemo
        really sucks trying to find out what the hell a release is? got another one http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?ob…
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      • CatCat
        that soudl not ocurre
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      • brianfreud
        oh sure, but I'm not talking "there's 2 hours til this expires, give me proof now"
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      • Kerensky97
        My problem is once I vote no I rarely remember to come back to check it before time runs out so I'm afraid of voting no then not fixing it when they put in links at the last minute.
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      • brianfreud
        I'm talking I was hitting them on day 1, so they had the full 2 weeks to provide *something*
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      • nikki
        I think zout did it once or something, and there was lots of dram
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      • nikki
        drama, even
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      • CatCat
        oh HECK
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        erherh
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      • CatCat
        sorry :o
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      • CatCat
        that was 3 years ago, i was a newbie ;_;
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      • nikki
        brianfreud: yeah, I've no problem with that, but I mean in general, if we blindly encourage being harsh, some people will probably assume that it's ok to vote no even if the editor doesn't have enough time to provide proof
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      • CatCat
        well since only voted "yes" becasue i thogh it "looked ok" and i never did actually chrck anything
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      • CatCat
        yo ucan remove it for me
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      • brianfreud
        I'd leave a note, then each day check my abstains on add edits, for any that was 7 old, leave a followup, then at 10-12 days, if still nothing, I'd switch to no.... gets to be really too much work though if you only have 1 or 2 ppl doing it for all the add edits... too many of them
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      • CatCat
        nikki: then we need to be "harsh" on saying that that is unacceptible :)
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      • nikki
        as for that album, there are test pressings so imo it does exist in some form, even if it was never released properly :o
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      • nikki
        yep
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      • CatCat
        i thoguh that iread that it never exsisted, i think that new line was added recently :s
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      • MClemo
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      • CatCat
        sure thing
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      • MClemo
        NOW I know how much crappy edit notes suck and will try my best in the future to make better ones myself
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      • CatCat
        seems to be the regualr version but witouth the instrumental http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_(album)
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      • brianfreud
        lol, well, if ppl are looking for something to vote on... http://xrl.us/bbtcc :)
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      • CatCat
        whast site is that?
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      • brianfreud
        MB, just made not 5 lines long :P
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      • CatCat never clicks on links with that sort of thing
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      • CatCat
        bever know what it is
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      • brianfreud
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      • CatCat
        hey MClemo The source of the bootleg release is supposed to be from studio recordings made for the cast of the play, and was taken when Waits's car was broken into in late 1992 (as confirmed by Waits in interviews [1]). Several different versions of the bootleg album were in circulation before the release of the official version.
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      • CatCat
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      • MClemo
        CatCat: hm, this could be it. but who knows?
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      • CatCat
        the person who wants to remove it
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      • CatCat
        obviusly
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      • CatCat
        i thoguht yo usaid you researched this
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      • MClemo
        CatCat: I thought that the wikipedia demos where those: http://musicbrainz.org/release/d6c5d581-230e-4ce8…
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      • MClemo
        errm, that stolen studio recordings
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      • CatCat
        demo*s* imply more thna one
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      • CatCat
        wikipedia says in many shapes and forms
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      • MClemo
        ok, better cancel it then
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      • MClemo
        sorry
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      • CatCat
        no prob :)
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      • CatCat
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      • nikki
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      • CatCat
        wtflol?
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      • MClemo
        CatCat: yeah, now I got all the albums and bought the "night on earth" OST today, I got nothing left but bootlegs afaik
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      • nikki was reminded of it just now and thought you might find it funny :o
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      • CatCat
        its wtfery ^_^
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      • CatCat
        have you seen www.kawaiinot.com ?
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      • MClemo
        CatCat: but "Official" as release type looks wrong for a stolen studio recording for this Alice...
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      • CatCat
        if that is indeed what it is.. might just be junk after all.. we dont know
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      • CatCat
        :)
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      • CatCat
        do more searches
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      • MClemo
        I'll give it up for now and turn to the other releases
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      • Kerensky97
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      • CatCat finds this more amusing http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=240 it reminds me of the game :D
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      • nikki
        some of those are cute...
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      • nikki
        but I don't get a lot of them :/
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      • Kerensky97
        Yeah I think i like http://pbfcomics.com/ more. But it's usually darker humor.
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      • CatCat
        sometimes i dont get soem of them either, but i just skip those :D
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      • CatCat
        Now grooving to: Scorpions ~ He's A Woman - She's A Man (3:15) (from Scorpions Best) (1978)
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      • CatCat
        :D
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        strong bad reference ftw!
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      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        those things where exactly what i was thinking
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      • Kerensky97
        I loved the South Park episode where the guy played Guitar Hero "Acoustically" and everybody was clapping along with him.
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      • CatCat
        like WTF oocco?!
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      • nikki
        zeeeelda :(
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      • nikki
        I have the game, I have a memory card, I just need a gamecube and a tv >_<
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      • CatCat
        i was like that too, then freso :D
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      • CatCat
        but the trip where you gotta protect the carriage is to hard ;(
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      • MClemo
        http://musicbrainz.org/release/15141446-ae63-40be… that just looks like "Closing Time" with a couple of tracks from "Small Change" attached. I'll stop trying to make sense of these weird freedb imports, it's driving me nuts
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      • CatCat
        http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=216 OMG i get *two* of the references, iwin! :P
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      • nikki
        I love that one :D
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      • nikki
        is the ghost one the other one you get?
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      • MClemo
        40 seconds apart is a little far off for two discids, isn't it?
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      • CatCat
        no the one with the guy with "mother in a box" its fro mthat ff movie
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      • CatCat
        .. ithink :/
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      • nikki
        oh right
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      • nikki
        the ghost one is from mario games, I assume
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      • nikki
        where the ghost won't follow people unless they turn away
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      • CatCat
        i figured it was somethign liek that
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      • MClemo
        CatCat: comapared the track lengths of the two Alices, looks identical (only each 0-4 seconds apart). From the odd Alice only the last track is missing. And the PUIDs match for all tracks (that I checked).