[00:19] brianfreud I wonder if I'm the only one who has ever wished "add track" and "remove track" also had newbie filters, like "add NAT" does... no, brianfreud, youre not the only one, i wish that too. actually i wished that in high Q its NOT possible to edit them.
can i interest anyone in a debate about if and when the arranger/transcriber of a work should make it in the track title?
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Kerensky97
No.
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Kerensky97
;)
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xlotlu
seems so :)
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CatCat
you mean annotation/ar
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xlotlu
no, i mean the track title. the AR is a must
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CatCat
i dont see why the arranger shoudl be in the tracktitle
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CatCat
can see that if it is a remix
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CatCat
would you call the arranger info "version" info
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CatCat
?
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CatCat
like "this is the "name of arranger"'s version"
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CatCat
its significant to understand wich versino of the track it is
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CatCat
if so, then ok, but else, no
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xlotlu
CatCat: yeah it is sort of a remix. Busoni took Bach's work for organ, and transcribed it for piano. :)
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CatCat
for classical there is proper ars, there is no need for track things, in classical the rackname is long enough as it is
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brianfreud
we don't have an AR for that though...
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xlotlu
brianfreud: been using instrumentator AR
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xlotlu
brianfreud: still I put (transcribed: Ferruccio Busoni) in the track name, because on a lot of releases he is credited as part author
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xlotlu
i.e.: Bach - Busoni
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xlotlu
and I've also seen cases of Busoni as single artist
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brianfreud
Isn't there rather a difference between an instrumentator (takes a work (ie, symphony) and adds a line for another instrument) and what is done to make a transcription/reduction/redaction?
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xlotlu
brianfreud: closest to a proper AR there is, though
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xlotlu
and transcribing from multiple instruments to a single one, or from organ to piano is imho a lot more complicated than instrumentation in that sense
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xlotlu
why unaffiliated/luks and not musicbrainz/luks?
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luks
because we have no musicbrainz group here on freenode :)
I see it with 249 releases, would have expected twice that (or more), unless maybe you don't count VA releases
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xlotlu
brianfreud: DRM-free 320 kbps
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brianfreud
nice :)
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xlotlu
thus my calling it "highly interesting" :)
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MClemo
320 kbps mp3s is about the dumbest thing. totally sucks for portables where lame -V 5 is good enough (for me) and for classical you often don't have much higher bitrates with lossless anyway
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xlotlu
MClemo: re-encode it for portable
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MClemo
transcoding from mp3 to mp3 is not so good an idea either
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brianfreud
I'd probably mp3repack it, turn it into apx V0 (without transcoding)
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xlotlu
1.29 € / track; avg. 11€ / album. and they say it will start with 600 titles not on sale anymore
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MClemo
yeah, that's the interesting part, that titles are including they don't sell anymore
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xlotlu
i'll probably be one of their customers in a few hours :)
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MClemo
I average around 8€ maybe for new CDs (not so much classical, though)
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MClemo
I'd maybe buy something there that's not for sale elsewhere
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xlotlu
MClemo: what's your take on symphonick's criticizing the arranger in the track title?
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MClemo
there's an AR for the arranger
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MClemo
do you have the link to the edit? or was this in irc?
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xlotlu
MClemo: it came up (again) on the buchlein one
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brianfreud
If I get the discussion xlotlu - MClemo, sounds a lot like the discussion we had a week or so ago about the "contains theme from x by y" "is a transcription of x by y" etc
