look at the cover. last author "Beethoven / Alkan"
2007-11-27 33155, 2007
xlotlu
also, "Chopin / Balakirev"
2007-11-27 33120, 2007
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inhouseuk
brianfreud: nope, no filtering on that report
2007-11-27 33133, 2007
brianfreud
It's ugly... you have 2 different cases I think there though - a direct transcription, where you could just AR it (like track #2), and a transcription with modification, where the modification probably needs some indication in the track title (like track #1), but the transcriber could prob just be an AR
2007-11-27 33132, 2007
xlotlu
brianfreud: or create the new artists: "Beethoven / Alkan", "Chopin / Balakirev", "Bach / Busoni" etc.. :)
2007-11-27 33157, 2007
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Kerensky97
If you do an album merge will the track ARs on the old album transfer to the new album?
2007-11-27 33120, 2007
xlotlu
which IMO would be more accurate, but way uglier (and dumber for that fact..)
or maybe not. that would only work if there would be a centralized place for artist / works, bypassing the release-oriented structure
2007-11-27 33151, 2007
xlotlu
which would be nice, because you'd get standardised track naming, and link the tracks on releases to this one
2007-11-27 33154, 2007
brianfreud
I'd rather have a generic works list on the MB end than be linking to some tracklist outside of MB
2007-11-27 33142, 2007
xlotlu
brianfreud: that's what i meant
2007-11-27 33110, 2007
xlotlu
and you could link the track from the MB works list to the commons audio
2007-11-27 33118, 2007
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xlotlu
but the MB works list would really be great -- instead of duplicating all the work on fixing track names across releases and styleguide compliance, it'd get done in one place
symphonick: you can /msg nickserv ghost symphonick
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symphonick
Ah, thanks :-)
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MClemo
we need an AR for RNA molecules
2007-11-27 33125, 2007
MClemo
bwahahhaha, I make such good jokes
2007-11-27 33144, 2007
xlotlu
symphonick: and (just in case you didn't know it) you can link a second nickname to the primary one, so you'd still be indentified as the other user, and will stay identified across doing /nick
2007-11-27 33123, 2007
symphonick
xlotlu, no, I didn't know that either...
2007-11-27 33138, 2007
xlotlu
they thought about everything these freenode guys :)
2007-11-27 33154, 2007
symphonick
MClemo, I didn't get that joke... anyway, the dictionary says transcription=arrangement. I'd say it's often a very small arrangement, like playing a cello piece on the violin and just change octaves...
2007-11-27 33158, 2007
symphonick
Tried to do research of what MB means by "instrumentator" yesterday...
2007-11-27 33119, 2007
xlotlu
(i have a hunch this is all my fault) :)
2007-11-27 33152, 2007
symphonick
Yes it is ;-)
2007-11-27 33159, 2007
MClemo
symphonick: ah, ok, thanks for the hint
2007-11-27 33110, 2007
symphonick
MClemo, I think I saw someone ask for a "transcribed by" AR somewhere.
2007-11-27 33118, 2007
MClemo
yeah, my hilarious joke was related to that ;)
2007-11-27 33132, 2007
symphonick
"instrumentator" feels like the wrong word somehow...
2007-11-27 33105, 2007
symphonick
...and I still don't get the joke, so please don't mention it again. ;-)
2007-11-27 33115, 2007
ruaok heads to the colo for an OS install and a local OS upgrade. back in an hour or so.
i didn't want to remove the info till it was entered via ar, though
2007-11-27 33151, 2007
ojnkpjg
still can't find my set
2007-11-27 33155, 2007
ojnkpjg
i looked for a bit last night
2007-11-27 33105, 2007
ojnkpjg
i hope i didn't lose it during a move :/
2007-11-27 33125, 2007
brianfreud
yeah, 10's not gonna be fun, though 9 is kind of a mess too... it's the only work where they didn't actually include all the movements
2007-11-27 33149, 2007
symphonick
xlotlu, my kingdom or at least half a horse for a cadenza AR!
2007-11-27 33107, 2007
symphonick
xlotlu, hmm, thinking about it, a cadenza is actually a small composition...
2007-11-27 33119, 2007
xlotlu
symphonick: that one's both transcribed, and with extra improvisation
2007-11-27 33138, 2007
ojnkpjg
i wonder why they left triple quartet out of that box set
2007-11-27 33119, 2007
xlotlu
symphonick: also, it's the first release where i started doing that evil thing. you can see it's not yet standardised to the (transcribed: author) form :)
2007-11-27 33129, 2007
nikki wonders what HairMournAddict is mourning
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HairMournAddict
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/26/obit.… ... "Quiet Riot singer Kevin DuBrow died Sunday, drummer Frankie Banali confirmed in a post on his Web site. DuBrow was 52 years old and the official cause of his death has yet to be determined."
2007-11-27 33134, 2007
symphonick
xlotlu, perhaps brianfreud & co. could help us sort this out: I think the transcriber-info shouldn't be in the title, just in an AR. Am I mis- or overinterpreting some rules here?
I spent some time today trying to get rid of Bach-Weiss today
2007-11-27 33150, 2007
brianfreud
hmmm, we actually already have 5 artists named God. So God would need a disambiguation note... Somehow, I find that ironic
2007-11-27 33107, 2007
xlotlu
this particular release goes as far as calling the composer Busoni, and calling the track "Chaconne transcription (after Bach)"
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symphonick
well, if it's a major reworking, but I wouldn't use the word "transcribed" for that - in my book it means leaving the music more or less intact
2007-11-27 33132, 2007
xlotlu
symphonick: what one would call "intact music" when transcribing from organ to piano is subjective
2007-11-27 33133, 2007
symphonick
a lot of musical terms are not clearly defined, though, so that's IMO
2007-11-27 33140, 2007
symphonick
:-) Yeah, try "not adding any music"?
2007-11-27 33143, 2007
xlotlu
symphonick: i'll make a transcription of a highly contrapunctal bach work for piano. i'll keep only the basic melody, one voice. would you call my composition bach's? :)
2007-11-27 33154, 2007
symphonick
"Not changing harmonies?"
2007-11-27 33155, 2007
xlotlu
heresy! :)
2007-11-27 33116, 2007
brianfreud
<symphonick> :-) Yeah, try "not adding any music"? <- ok, and a symphony transcribed for piano? Isn't there as much art in good subtracting as in good adding? :)
2007-11-27 33112, 2007
symphonick
brianfreud, I'd call that "arranging"?
2007-11-27 33108, 2007
brianfreud
*shrug* again I guess it comes down to quite what is or isn't changed
2007-11-27 33104, 2007
xlotlu
symphonick: i really don't think bach literally imagined how his chaconne would sound on harpsichord. so this all boils down to how much credit the "arranger" should take for his work
2007-11-27 33159, 2007
xlotlu
i chose to give credit in the track title, since many people seem to think it was very important work
2007-11-27 33143, 2007
xlotlu
symphonick: IM(h)O creating the "Bach / Busoni" artist would actually be more accurate, but the thought of that creeps me out :)
2007-11-27 33131, 2007
symphonick
Me too.
2007-11-27 33108, 2007
symphonick
I did mention I'm trying to kill "Bach & Weiss"? :-)
