does anyone know what happened to the Hairspray soundtrack entry in the database? it appears to be deleted
2007-08-05 21708, 2007
Kilu
or rather, why was it deleted might be the more accurate question :p
2007-08-05 21740, 2007
Kilu
I suppose it was probably just so badly entered
2007-08-05 21756, 2007
Kilu
and voted down, maybe
2007-08-05 21701, 2007
Kilu
oh well
2007-08-05 21712, 2007
copper
isn't there a log page or something?
2007-08-05 21720, 2007
Kilu
no idea
2007-08-05 21724, 2007
BrianFreud
Can't say for certain, but the only one I can find that looks like it was the 2007 soundtrack (which I assume is the version you mean), from what little I can find still in the db, it was incorrectly added
2007-08-05 21741, 2007
BrianFreud
album artist as VA, not Marc Shaiman - performers, not composer
if someone doesn't beat me to it, I'm probably adding it tomorrow
2007-08-05 21702, 2007
Kilu
just doing some quick tagging right now :p
2007-08-05 21734, 2007
BrianFreud
it's on my eventual list too, so if you miss it, I'll get it :)
2007-08-05 21750, 2007
BrianFreud
OT: I used to live on the street where the original was filmed :)
2007-08-05 21757, 2007
Kilu
haha
2007-08-05 21722, 2007
BrianFreud
sad part is how true the movie is - I was there for college, but the "born here" townies... kinda scary
2007-08-05 21758, 2007
Kilu
I haven't seen the movie, thank god :D
2007-08-05 21708, 2007
BrianFreud
lol - well, for that part of baltimore, imagine huge hairnetted hair, pink flamingo lawn sculptures as "high art", and most of the local women you know being perfectly accepted as greatgrandmothers by the time they turn 60...
2007-08-05 21741, 2007
Kilu
sounds quite awesome :D
2007-08-05 21745, 2007
BrianFreud
lol
2007-08-05 21755, 2007
BrianFreud
oh yes, and the two main points of "Bawlmerese"...
2007-08-05 21706, 2007
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BrianFreud
everyone you know is Mr or Miss or Mrs (first name), and you call everyone "hon"
2007-08-05 21734, 2007
BrianFreud
I managed to escape untouched, save for the occasional slip into saying "thanks hon" :)
2007-08-05 21747, 2007
Kilu
hahaha
2007-08-05 21705, 2007
Kilu
looks like I need to add couple others tomorrow as well
2007-08-05 21726, 2007
Kilu
atleast bourne ultimatum and the new fantastic 4 album
2007-08-05 21728, 2007
Kilu
hrmm
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BrianFreud
anyone around?
2007-08-05 21758, 2007
outsidecontext
yes
2007-08-05 21705, 2007
BrianFreud
anyone know if we ever came to a decision on quite how to handle tracklists where two languages are included, either via / or parenthesis?
2007-08-05 21722, 2007
BrianFreud
10 track release, each track listed as German / English - aka: Nach Dem Knall / After The Explosion
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BrianFreud
also, odd situation here. Original work titles were in Italian. They were then translated to English and released with English titles. Then, there's this work, which translated
2007-08-05 21711, 2007
BrianFreud
the Italian to German, and then translated the German titles to English - the english translations on this release clearly show the effects of "double translation"
2007-08-05 21729, 2007
BrianFreud
So what is a translation of what, from an AR point of view?
2007-08-05 21746, 2007
BrianFreud
ie, would we relate each track back to the original work for the "is a translation of" AR, or the English (2) release to the German release, then the German release to the Italian release?
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CatCat
where do i go to create a gruop on last.fm, anyone know?
it discusses official transl*ations, and I went back and read the original proposal, and it also directly states that the AR would be for both pr's and official
2007-08-05 21747, 2007
dholmes
I propose solving the problem by flipping a coin, and telling no one
2007-08-05 21751, 2007
CatCat
that seems borked to me
2007-08-05 21756, 2007
CatCat
thery should be seperated
2007-08-05 21759, 2007
CatCat
with differnt ars
2007-08-05 21707, 2007
CatCat
they are two differnt things entirely
2007-08-05 21716, 2007
CatCat
how else will people know?
2007-08-05 21722, 2007
CatCat
sometimes @psudo@ ishnt set
2007-08-05 21731, 2007
BrianFreud
well, the difference is that one release would have p-r set, the other would have official set
2007-08-05 21743, 2007
BrianFreud
the AR gives different info than the release state
2007-08-05 21746, 2007
CatCat
sometimes 'psudo' isn't set
2007-08-05 21753, 2007
CatCat
wtf is p-r?
2007-08-05 21758, 2007
BrianFreud
pseudo-release
2007-08-05 21714, 2007
CatCat
sometiems peope ldont set that, but they use the ar
2007-08-05 21726, 2007
BrianFreud
well, that's a different issue :)
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BrianFreud
lol
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CatCat
now if both official translations (that may even have the music in singign in a differnt language) is with the same ar as musicbrainz1s created psudo-release with the same ar
2007-08-05 21720, 2007
CatCat
thats not good
2007-08-05 21723, 2007
BrianFreud
but my sense is, based on the AR's history, the release is official if it's listed on the liner in that translation, and p-r if it's an unofficial transl*ation - but that AR can be used to relate either type back to the original language listing
2007-08-05 21744, 2007
CatCat
i say our trnsliteration thign should *only* be used for our psudo releases, and we sould use @other version* or have a new ar for actual translated releases (that exsist) and another for transalted oens where they sing differntly
2007-08-05 21747, 2007
BrianFreud
which would seem to indicate that the AR relates to the music itself, not the titles - or we'd also be using that AR, say, for the Rocky Horror Norsjk version to link it to the Rocky Horror Show (english) version, etc
2007-08-05 21758, 2007
BrianFreud
yes
2007-08-05 21744, 2007
BrianFreud
1) Same work, different transl*ation of title (possibly basing the ARs then on transl*tion history), 2) same work, different performance, 3) same work, different version and performance
2007-08-05 21704, 2007
CatCat
to tired now brainfrø
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CatCat
cant think
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BrianFreud
lol, np
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CatCat
no lol
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BrianFreud
ok
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BrianFreud
just happened to find this one wwhen I accidentally searched for Morricone in title, instead of artist
2007-08-05 21733, 2007
BrianFreud
someone had reversed the title and artist
2007-08-05 21734, 2007
BrianFreud
:P
2007-08-05 21745, 2007
CatCat
those are annoying
2007-08-05 21749, 2007
BrianFreud
yeah
2007-08-05 21756, 2007
CatCat
specially if thy are VA
2007-08-05 21703, 2007
BrianFreud
worse yet, it's one of those with all tracks listed in both German and English
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CatCat
before had to do them oen on one becasue va released had no edit all
2007-08-05 21723, 2007
BrianFreud
so fixing the artist, correcting the english's caps issues, and adding the german release
2007-08-05 21701, 2007
BrianFreud
just then had the question of how to relate the english and german ones, plus how to relate both back to the original italian releases
