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      • MartinRudat likes programming, nobody asks you to cite your sources... they just want to know that it compiles, tests correctly, and is properly documented.
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      • MartinRudat
        ...then again, I suppose there's still the whole licencing thing, too...
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      • MartinRudat
        I suppose if I were to quote stuff regularly, I'd probably want to have something that automatically formats a block-quote, and an appropriate citation...
      • 2007-08-14 22657, 2007

      • MartinRudat
        heh. http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/LatinArtists?action=i… I was about to undo all the edits that mo put in to get around a formatting bug in the wiki... and I agree, what _is_ wrong with the thing?
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      • MartinRudat
        I think I had a page somewhere specifically to reference that particular bug... I wonder if it's still there...
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      • yllona
        check bugs.musicbrainz.org? mo should be awake in a bit, check with him
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      • MartinRudat
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      • MartinRudat
        G'day trollomat.
      • 2007-08-14 22631, 2007

      • trollomat
        hey ho
      • 2007-08-14 22607, 2007

      • MartinRudat
        ...hey, why is there 'newwiki' and 'wiki'... shouldn't that be 'wiki' and 'oldwiki'?
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      • CatCat
        oldwiki is goone
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      • CatCat
        :(
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      • CatCat
        yea we where testign to see what reproduced it
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      • CatCat
        i made it happen :D
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      • CatCat
        you need to start with a link tat doesnt go anywhere, then use the trick one uses to make things plural
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      • CatCat
        or a differnt name altogether
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      • CatCat
        then soem text and a new lin kthat is regular
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      • CatCat
        then everything up until another non working link is then a linkthatneverhends
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      • CatCat
        also You have to use the setting "Show question mark for non-existing pagelinks" to see it.
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      • MartinRudat
        mo: what's with newwiki, though? is this going to be the replacement wiki, or is it just to see what things would have looked like?
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      • CatCat
        i have no idea
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      • CatCat
        this is the first ive heard opf iot
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      • CatCat
        i think wolfsong sould know?
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      • MartinRudat
        mo: ditto, but, then again, I haven't visited for about a year or so, so...
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      • CatCat
        him and soem guys, panda and BrianFreud have been tobbign with te wiki, afaik
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      • CatCat
        been outs tought wit the wiki myself to be honnest
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      • CatCat
        outa touch*
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      • CatCat
        hmm movies
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      • MartinRudat
        apparently there's a ticket for upgrading the wiki: http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2320
      • 2007-08-14 22607, 2007

      • MartinRudat hmms at http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AR ... I thought that I made that a CandidateForDeletion ages ago... or was it created after I finished marking redirection pages for deletion...
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      • MartinRudat
        hmm, it was made after my CfD spree.
      • 2007-08-14 22601, 2007

      • MartinRudat
        hmm... now begins MartinRudat's CfD spree '07... =)
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      • MartinRudat
        hmm... I wonder if the new moinmoin allows for renaming users...
      • 2007-08-14 22624, 2007

      • MartinRudat
        ...there's more than a few people who have set up redirections from a CamelCase name to their lowercase username... it would be nice if they could actually change their user name 'round... then again, for signing stuff, you can just go @SIG@ regardless of what your username happens to be.
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      • Cord
        . o O ( uh. someone from last.fm. if it is possible to change the username there? )
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      • Cord ducks.
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      • juhae
        maybe try #last.fm? :)
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      • Cord
        iirc that is a FAQ and the answer is no.
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      • russ
        same answer here :P
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      • yllona
        Cord: it's #audioscrobbler. the dev'ls and admins are awake now.
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      • yllona
        hello russ
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      • Cord
        yllona: when the answer is no, no need to ask.
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      • yllona
        Cord: true, true :). but why did you post here? just curious....
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      • Muz
        Actually, yllona, there is a
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      • Muz
        #last.fm channel on Freenode
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      • Muz
        Heh
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      • yllona
        but that's staff no?
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      • Cord
        (and 'Cord' is occupied by some user not logged in for years. )
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      • Muz
        Not on Freenode
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      • Muz
        #last.fm on Phasenet is staff only
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      • yllona
        Muz: thanks, i'll add it to my list
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      • Cord
        yllona: /me just kidding. (with very small hope that there maybe is a way... )
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      • Cord
        hmmm... lst.fm broken atm...
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      • yllona
        cord: happened just a few minute ago.
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      • yllona
        please join #audioscrobbler for last.fm issues
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      • deadchip
        luks: is there a way with picard to make it not copy duplicates when moving & renaming?
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      • luks
        no, but what would you want it to do instead?
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      • luks
        and by what definition of duplicate?
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      • deadchip
        luks: ok first, definition of duplicate means the same track
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      • luks
        bite-wise?
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      • deadchip
        luks: yeah
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      • deadchip
        furthermore, as what to do instead, i can think of 2 ways
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      • deadchip
        either specify a directory into which to copy duplicates
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      • deadchip
        it would get the same layout as the default target directory to copy to but instead would just receive the dupes
      • 2007-08-14 22618, 2007

      • deadchip
        or, but that's probably worse just leave them in the original place and don't even rename them
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      • deadchip
        i want to remove the MB tagging from BMP and encourage people to use picard instead
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      • luks
        o_O
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      • luks
        why?
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      • deadchip
        luks: lol well because it's much more limited in funcitonality
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      • luks
        well, amarok is even more limited and people seem to like it
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      • deadchip
        hrm
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      • deadchip
        well ok maybe i'll keep it but i use picard myself only now
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      • deadchip
        haha
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      • deadchip
        i just found that i have dupes of approx. 10% of all my files
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      • deadchip
        it would be cool if picard could deal with them :)
      • 2007-08-14 22610, 2007

      • deadchip
        well just a suggestion
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      • luks
        dealing with duplicate files and duplicate audio is a different problem
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      • deadchip
        would be noice
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      • deadchip
        luks: yeah i meant, not duplicate as in filename, but really duplicate audio
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      • luks
        I think most people would be more interested in the latter
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      • deadchip
        same file size, same PUID, identical track
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      • luks
        well, then we have 3 definitions of duplicate
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      • luks
        1. identical bytes, 2. identical filename, 3. "almost" identical audio content
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      • Cord
        hmmm... #audioscrobbler here is empty.
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      • Cord
        which channel whcih net for last.fm?
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      • luks
        3. is what most people are looking for
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      • luks
        #last.fm
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      • luks
        here on freenode
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      • yllona
        or irc.audiocrobbler.net for #audioscrobbler
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      • yllona
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      • Cord
        ok. thnx.
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      • deadchip
        luks: yeah i meant also 3
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      • deadchip
        well i realize it's not all that simple
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      • deadchip
        i just wanted to throw in the problem (i guess N people have before me though)
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      • MartinRudat
        ...I plan to do the duplicate search by outputting a link farm that goes /Artist/Track/trackid, which links back to the original files...
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      • MartinRudat
        'course if we get track linking, I chould just go /trackid/link to find duplicates... =)
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      • Cord has some scripts that report me duplicate puids and duplicate artist/track/length-groups.
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      • deadchip
        well i could write something using libofa too
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      • deadchip
        but picard _already goes_ over all the files
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      • MartinRudat
        I have two full copies of the encoded audio, plus an xml dump of the data for each discid, and a script that applies the latter to one of the former to produce a tree full of nicely named, tagged files.
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      • deadchip
        dehhh
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      • deadchip
        one of the cpu cores faulted
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      • MartinRudat blinks at http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Series ... that page is going to get _huge_...
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      • deadchip has removed the overclock
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      • MartinRudat doesn't believe in overclocking... given the temperature 'round here, I, howver, am a believer in _under_ clocking...
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      • MartinRudat
        ...and lots of fans, too.
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      • deadchip
        heh
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      • deadchip
        well the overclock does work
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      • deadchip
        it's a 2-core athlon 64 3800+, oveclocking it from 2GHz to 2.4GHz _does_ have an effect
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      • deadchip
        however, when it's as hot here as today, it just doesn't work when running 2 instances of picard
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      • luks
        I don't believe it has visible effect unless you run CPU-sentive applications on it all the time
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      • MartinRudat
        I appreciate the fact that this is the first computer I've had in years that doesn't fall over in mid-summer when running at the rated speed... even with an out-sized heatsink...
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      • MartinRudat
        luks: it wouldn't... then again, given the amount of cpu that windows itself eats... =)
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      • luks
        the 0.5%?
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      • deadchip
        i'm not an "overclocker" btw
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      • deadchip
        i don't have a "case-mod" nor do i have a big AMD poster over my bed
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      • deadchip
        heh
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      • MartinRudat
        luks: perhaps I'm just too used to the 500Mhz single-core CPU I used to have where if windows wasted the entire processing power of a 486, you'd notice... now that I'm on a faster machine... meh.
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      • luks
        I've brought a nice big CPU cooler, but I somehow don't see the point of overclocking it
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      • luks
        even though I could
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      • deadchip
        but i just took the chance to raise the CPU clock; if the BIOS allows it and it works most of the time there is no real reason not to
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      • outsidecontext
        power usage
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      • luks
        there is, it will become unstable
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      • MartinRudat
        uptime. =)
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      • deadchip
        yes that is the one thing and it just happened to me
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      • deadchip
        i guess powerusage also counts..
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      • MartinRudat pats his laptop, uptime of around 180 days, last I looked.
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      • deadchip
        anyway i won't "hard" argue pro-overclock
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      • deadchip
        as i've said i'm not a casemod-OC geek
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      • luks
        I don't even have a real case :)
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      • deadchip
        yeah i used not to at some point
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      • MartinRudat
        I'm debating between a case with a 'BigFan(TM)' in it, or one of those pre-modded lan-party cases for my next computer.
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      • luks
        a case with a big fan is the best you can do
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      • MartinRudat
        luks: there's actually a mob making a BigFan(TM) it's something like 8 or 10 inches, iirc. =)
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      • luks
        oh