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      • luks
        umm
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      • MartinRudat yawns. in any case, it's past bedtime.
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      • MartinRudat
        hmm?
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      • luks
        good night! :)
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      • MartinRudat
        g'night.
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      • deadchip wonders why people can't just leave him overclock as he wants :P
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      • outsidecontext
        people leave you, but not your CPU ;-)
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      • deadchip
        heh
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      • deadchip
        well it's again at 55 C
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      • deadchip
        it's just the hot weather also
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      • outsidecontext
        deadchip: this page really got fucked up: http://projects.beep-media-player.org/index.php/A…
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      • deadchip
        wow fucking spammers
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      • deadchip
        they spam our regular wiki, and now also the projects wiki o_O
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      • outsidecontext
        i don't even see the original version of this page
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      • deadchip
        yeah it's gone, i think pmwiki doesn't save the original content
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      • deadchip
        err
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      • deadchip
        doesn't save the history as far back
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      • deadchip
        maybe i'm luck with wayback machine or google cache
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      • outsidecontext
        nice. so you only need to spam enough
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      • deadchip
        i've mostly restored it from google cache
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      • outsidecontext
        good to have some external backup
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      • luks
        what? a wiki that doesn't save older revisions?
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      • deadchip
        seems only up to a given limit
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      • deadchip
        i'll ask our webmaster guy
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      • aCiD2
        http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7354963 y-bomb, if you would be so kind?
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      • aCiD2
        one more! I wanna tag this :P
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      • yllona
        what am i saying yes to?
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      • yllona
        adding the disc number?
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      • aCiD2
        yup
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      • aCiD2
        I forgot to type that bit in
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      • yllona
        done, have fun with tags :)
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      • aCiD2
        huzzah!
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      • aCiD2
        :)
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      • aCiD2
        thanks
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      • yllona
        you're welcome
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      • aCiD2
        hey Freso
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      • Freso
        j0
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      • deadchip found 1 dupe release
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      • deadchip
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      • deadchip
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      • deadchip
        dupe or not dupe?
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      • deadchip
        dup dee dupe
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      • outsidecontext
        mmh, some track times differ much
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      • deadchip
        yes but, i have this CD
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      • deadchip
        unless it was really a re-issue it's the same
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      • deadchip
        outsidecontext: i bought it in 1995
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      • deadchip
        i'm pretty damn sure it was not re-released in 1999
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      • outsidecontext
        which one does your release match?
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      • deadchip
        let me check the times
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      • deadchip
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      • deadchip
        hmm it's strange, well definitely i didn't buy it in 1999, _that_ much is sure
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      • deadchip
        or rather the more important inverse what i was about to say is i bought it in 1995
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      • deadchip
        so it must have existed before 1999
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      • outsidecontext
        yes, that's what i thought
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      • outsidecontext
        but the other one looks more suspicious (no disc id, no asin)
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      • outsidecontext
        mmh, there was not really a proof on http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?ob…
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      • deadchip
        can't find it at bluenote.com
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      • outsidecontext
        looks for me like a dup, but i can't say. not my kind of music :-)
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      • deadchip
        outsidecontext: well, except for the date, there are following things to note
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      • deadchip
        well ok you've already named it all
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      • deadchip
        outsidecontext: ok now what should i do, merge it or remove it?
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      • deadchip
        i think the only thing right about the "more bogus" release is the title
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      • deadchip
        i think "Heroes of the Hammond, Volume 2" is part of the title allright
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      • outsidecontext
        there is not much to merge
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      • outsidecontext
        but perhaps merging is more correct in sense of data consistency over time
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      • deadchip
        ok humm
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      • deadchip
        i've never used the web interface to make a merge
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      • outsidecontext
        me neither :-)
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      • BrianG
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      • warp
        hello
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      • warp
        are sortnames searched when looking searching for an artist?
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      • ruaok
        yes
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      • warp
        ok, thanks :)
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      • Aankhen``
        ruaok: Er, sorry to hassle you, but apparently there's a module missing for YAUB: Finance::Currency::Convert::XE.
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      • BrianFreud
        yes
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      • BrianFreud
        umm, has anyone ever seen this error before? I've hit the limit for what tracknamelength could be used in the past, and never had modbot cancel for "track name is too long"... http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7351094
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      • BrianFreud
        For whatever reason, I was allowed to go beyond 255 chars here, (the "k" in "Look is char 256), but then it looks like wierdness happened
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      • warp
        ugh, crap releases
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      • BrianFreud
        yes, for a full track title of "Half-Act Opera: The Stoned Guest, Part One: I. Overture / II. Aria: “Let’s fact it—I’m lost” / III. Recitative: “Boy!” / IV. Aria: “Now is the season” / V. Recitative: “Gesundheit!” / VI. Duet: “Woe” / VII. Recitative: “Hark!” / VIII. Aria: “Look at me” / IX. Recitative: “That’s the end” / X. Trio: “I’m sure I’d be”"
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      • warp
        should've been seperate tracks on the disc, sue the publisher
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      • BrianFreud
        Normally I'd agree, but in this case, the track title is part of the joke - the track is all of 23:46
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      • BrianFreud
        I wish Windows/etc would get rid of the path/file name limit, or make it something like 1026 chars :(
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      • warp
        do flac/mp3 tags have such limits? i don't particularly care about the filenames.
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      • BrianFreud
        I'm not sure
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      • BrianFreud
        hmmm, I dropped down to 230 chars, and still the system is canceling for length... http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7355675
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      • luks
        they don't
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      • BrianFreud
        luks: voiceinsideyou and I were trying to figure out. What field does Picard use when it's set to "Try to convert to latin artist names"?
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      • luks
        reverses the sort name
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      • BrianFreud
        ok
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      • BrianFreud
        Is that way sortnames are supposed to always be in latin?
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      • luks
        yes :/
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      • BrianFreud
        k, thanks :)
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      • warp
        really, i thought it was the other way around?
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      • luks
        it's an ugly hack I'd love to get rid of
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      • warp
        (because sortnames always have to be in latin, picard can sneakily use them to get latin artist names)
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      • BrianFreud
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      • luks
        uh, we were saying the same thing, no?
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      • BrianFreud
        We weren't sure if "Kaori Fujii" also needed to be an alias, figured that was the other place Picard could be pulling it from.
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      • luks
        it should be a sort name
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      • BrianFreud
        k
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      • warp
        luks: you replied yes to, 'Is that way sortnames are supposed to always be in latin?'
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      • BrianFreud
        it's also in as an edit to add to sortname, so all is cool :)
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      • luks
        but one thing.. please don't use picard as a reason for doing edits in MB
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      • luks
        or voting
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      • BrianFreud
        oh, sure
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      • warp
        luks: but i don't think picard is the reason sortnames have to be latin, i thought the reason was something else... and picard just takes advantage of it.
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      • luks
        if it follows the SG and it breaks picard then it's picard's problem
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      • luks
        warp: I know, but I've seen people using it as an argument
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      • luks
        for example to format them in a specific way so that picard can reverse them correctly
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      • BrianFreud
        no, it's was a non-SG issue - more "where do progs get the latin-version from", not just where does picard get it from
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      • warp
        luks: if picard reverses them incorrectly, that's a picard bug... not a wrong sortname. IMO
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      • luks
        no, applications are not supposed to use sort names for latin version of artist names
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      • luks
        warp: I know
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      • warp
        luks: ok, then we agree :)
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      • luks
        as I said, it's an ugly hack
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      • warp
        yes
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      • luks
        sortnames should follow the name
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      • BrianFreud
        luks, by the way, one of the recent enhancement reqs has been something I'd wanted for a while too. Any chance we could have "presets" for file naming?
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      • luks
        and we should add 'latin name' and 'latin sortname'
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      • BrianFreud
        agreed :)
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      • luks
        presets are very tricky things to add
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      • BrianFreud
        I just added a few in Hangul yesterday where I have no idea what the latin form would be, so until they get changed, they have sortnames in Hangul
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      • luks
        could you make me a list of options which should be in presets and which ones should be common?
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      • BrianFreud
        since sortname is manditory when adding an artist
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      • BrianFreud
        luks: No, not pre-defined presets
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      • BrianFreud
        I'd leave just
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      • warp
        BrianFreud: just point me at them, and i'll transliterate them.
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      • BrianFreud
        "Default" as the preset