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      • FauxFaux
        Yes Cosmo`.
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      • Cosmo`
        i think there was a reason i haven't installed it
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      • Cosmo`
        i quite like the classic tagger
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      • FauxFaux
        It's marked as alpha. I thoughrorly recommend PicardQt, though.
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      • FauxFaux
        *bbq*
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      • Cosmo`
        hmm ... uses QT
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      • Cosmo`
        brb
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      • FrederikSOlesen
        FrederikSOlesen is now known as Freso
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      • CatCat
        hi warp!
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      • warp
        hi :)
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      • warp voted no on some add releases today
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      • warp
        hm, i still have a bunch of stuff to check+vote, but not in the mood for those right now..
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      • warp
        i'll make some food instead :)
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      • david__
        Y'know
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      • david__
        david__ is now known as dholmes
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      • dholmes
        the more I think about it, the more convinced I become that MB editors are all completely insane
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      • dholmes
        What could possibly convince us that this is a reasonable way to spend our time?
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      • dholmes
        Oh well :P
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      • warp
        dholmes: just the sheer satisfaction of having everything in your music dir perfectly tagged
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      • dholmes
        Yeah
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      • dholmes
        definitely insane :P
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      • warp
        dholmes: which would otherwise be a great source of annoyance, etc..
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      • dholmes
        Yeah
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      • dholmes
        I think it would take me several thousand hours to actually accomplish this goal
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      • FauxFaux
        dholmes: Yeah, I've already decided I'm insane.
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      • FauxFaux
        And I barely even edit.
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      • warp
        dholmes: that's why it's great to have help from this community
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      • dholmes
        Yeah
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      • FauxFaux
        ...and to keep us away from all the rest.
      • 2007-08-27 23953, 2007

      • dholmes
        trouble is, it would take me thousands of hours even with the community. It would be simply impossible without MB
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      • warp
        dholmes: i'm neurotic enough to know that i'm happy-er and saner when i know my music is properly tagged ;)
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      • warp
        dholmes: hm, you have too much music?
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      • dholmes
        Yeah
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      • dholmes
        I have way more than I could ever possibly listen to
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      • FauxFaux
        I made my player tell me when stuff isn't tagged, and I can't even listen to it. ;p
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      • dholmes
        So I'm the craziest of all ;)
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      • warp
        dholmes: well, that wouldn't be a problem.
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      • FauxFaux
        MusicBrainz needs the "C" locale instead. To rectify this, re-run "initdb"
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      • FauxFaux
        with the option "--locale=C".
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      • FauxFaux
        Most. Irritating. Feature. Evar.
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      • warp
        dholmes: when i started using musicbrainz, i moved everything to /mnt/music/untagged. whenever i wanted to listen to something, i quickly tagged it and moved it to /mnt/music/tagged.
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      • warp
        dholmes: .. only tag what you listen :)
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      • dholmes
        I don't even import anything into my library unless it's tagged by MB, and I have much more outside my library than in
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      • dholmes
        That's pretty much my situation
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      • dholmes
        Trouble is, I start to accumulate albums that aren't trivially enterable in MB
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      • FauxFaux
        !calc 25539/36379
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      • YAUB
        FauxFaux: 0.7020258941
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      • Amblin-
        Google calculator: 25 539 / 36 379 = 0.702025894
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      • FauxFaux
        70%, go me.
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      • dholmes
        Like when I have three different masterings of the same album, yet there's only one release in MB
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      • dholmes
        I have all those albums in a special folder that I'm not touching at the moment
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      • warp
        dholmes: still, unless you want to enter it fully AR'ed, it's usually about 5 or 10 minutes work to add a release. a bit more if it's rare and info is hard to find.
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      • dholmes
        Yeah
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      • dholmes
        Or if it's from a country and in a language you don't understand
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      • warp
        dholmes: ah, depends a lot on the country :)
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      • warp
        dholmes: korean releases take me much longer than japanese releases, because catalog #s and such are harder to locate.
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      • dholmes
        Even Japanese albums can be awfully difficult if you don't have the physical album
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      • warp
        dholmes: i'm usually fairly fast with japanese releases now, catalog #s are easy to find, labels are easy to find once you have the catalog #, etc..
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      • warp
        i love japanese catalog #s :D
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      • dholmes
        It's the VA releases that are tough if they have a ton of artists and you don't have the liner notes
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      • warp
        oh right.
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      • warp
        i have some horrible para para cds, which are hard even with the physical release on your desk :)
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      • FauxFaux
        Grr, summon luks.
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      • dholmes
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      • dholmes
        Any idea why one Disc ID is 35 minutes longer than the rest?
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      • brianfreud
        the Korean ones bother me the most, cause their VA albums seem the worst at "noone lists who the artist was unless it's some big name" - and I hate adding [unknown] artist tracks
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      • warp nods.
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      • dholmes
        And http://musicbrainz.org/release/998b6814-e5bd-4133… vs. the album above. The only difference is that the last track is 5:20 instead of 2:50. I think it's a typo
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      • ojnkpjg
        probably +2:30 because of an import from freedb of an album with a trailing data track
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      • dholmes
        Should that be merged anyways?
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      • ojnkpjg
        yep
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      • ojnkpjg
        the 5:20 track time is just wrong
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      • dholmes
        Cool
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      • ojnkpjg
        that 74:24 discid is weird
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      • ojnkpjg
        i guess it's attached to the wrong album
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      • ojnkpjg
        er, or not
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      • ojnkpjg
        it's just messed up
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      • ojnkpjg
        1 35:38 160420 2:31 11358 38:10
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      • ojnkpjg
        weird
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      • dholmes
        Is that even possible? Short of a 35-minute pre-gap, which seems pretty unlikely?
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      • ojnkpjg
        yeah, i'd think it's a lot more likely it's a broken discid than there's an official release with a 35:30+ pregap
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      • warp
        :)
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      • copper
        35 minute "hidden" song maybe?
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      • ojnkpjg
        maybe, but i've never seen anything that long before
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      • copper
        me neither
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      • dholmes
        Still, how would such a mistake even end up in MB?
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      • copper
        FreeDB import
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      • copper
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      • ojnkpjg
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      • copper
        I'm not sure it's a mistake though, the TOC seems valid...
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      • Knio
        wtf, last.fm just sent me a friend request email, in russian
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      • ojnkpjg
        yeah, see the link above
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      • dholmes
        Can interesting
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      • copper
        Probably a 20 year old russian girl looking for a husband.
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      • FauxFaux
        Knio: The e-mails are sent in the language of the site they're sent from, iirc.
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      • dholmes
        Lucky you
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      • Knio
        heh
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      • FauxFaux
        Anyone around have access to the bug-tracker? Could you close http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3151? I suck and pressed submit instead of preview.
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      • ojnkpjg
        it's kind of hard to find drives that even read the pregap correctly these days
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      • Knio
        you would think it would pick my language..
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      • copper
        ojnkpjg: ARGH MY EYES
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      • ojnkpjg
        i had to hunt down an old plextor to finally rip track 0s
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      • ojnkpjg
        copper, yeah, i know
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      • FauxFaux
        Knio: Known issue iirc.
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      • ojnkpjg
        that page looks like it's from about 1996
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      • copper
        I don't understand though, such CDs normally show the data track
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      • Knio
        also I have no idea who this russian girl is
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      • copper
        The data track would be track 1, and the first audio track would be track 2
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      • dholmes
        In which case the association of that disc ID with that album would be in error?
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      • copper
        ojnkpjg: I'm gonna sue you for causing me visual impairment
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      • ojnkpjg
        i think the data track only shows up as track 1 if it's a multi-session cd, right?
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      • ojnkpjg
        i don't know what they did to this thing
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      • ojnkpjg
        i've never heard of putting data content in the pregap
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      • copper
        I don't think it hurts anything to leave it there though
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      • ojnkpjg
        yeah, it's valid
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      • ojnkpjg
        just a weird original pressing
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      • copper
        yeah ok it's pre-ECD era
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      • outsidecontext
        oh shit, adding ARs to Kurt Cobain is no fun
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      • copper
        if anything, it's a good test case