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lol, and edit = editor

Jugdish has changed the topic to: http://musicbrainz.org | Cleanup of the Month - Ennio Morricone - http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CleanupOfTheMonth/E... | FreeDB app gateway active http://freedb.musicbrainz.org | Enhanced voting http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/9838

Jugdish__ is now known as Jugdish

!asin B000024B20

YAUB died yesterday - ru didn't know how to fix it

:P

dag yo

how can I figure out the upc then? google isnt helping me

I've seen some sites online where I could play with ASINS in the urls to get upcs in the displays...

hm oh well

what did juggy change in the voting script?

'sides colours

added cancel (like approve)

hm, on my edits I assume :)

yeah

like when you have a whole set you need to cancel

sob, it killed FF

cool

hmmm, fun - I can access annotations just like ARs... :)

that'll come in handy

hello!

hey warp

brianfreud: hey, why did you change it to '!IdeaChampion' ?

Any idea what FS in "Just a Little Bit (rough mix including FS)" means?

no idea

cooperaa: have you seen my proposals thing btw?

there's a few of yours listed :)

yes, I think I updated it this morning

:)

i don't see you in the page diff history thing

:(

I was at work, so it may have been just an IP

I added... umm subscription mails

i only see brian, murdos, me and my ip.

please check if your changes made it in, because from what i can see, they didn't.

damn

what page?

CurrentProposals?

ah /kuno/... :)

it should probably move out of kuno/ now, but i'm not sure the current name is good enough for general usage.

yipes, might help if it were sorted :P

warp, cause IdeaChampion is a wikiword - and there's no such page

it was sorted by date, but brian just added a whole bunch of wiki stuff.

so it showed up as ? IdeaChampion

brianfreud: yes, that there is no such page doesn't mean there shouldn't be :)

!IdeaChampion tells moinmoin it's not a wikiword

:P

feel free to change it back, was just trying to get rid of the ?s

(there are no ? marks...)

the OGLP (or whatever it is) one is annoying too - all the caps break normal moinmoin linking

it's a reasonably well defined concept within MB imo, probably best described on http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/TurningYourIdeasInt...

figured you dredged the mailing list, I'd dredge the wiki :P

and deserves (IMO), a page on its own, but there's more important stuff on the wiki to fix/edit atm

agreed, and agreed

brianfreud: yes, thanks! i've already noticed some cruft which i'd like to see cleaned up, like the hello project thing seems useful, nearly complete, but abandened by its IdeaChampion :)

yeah

I saw the same thing - lots of just about done proposals, being treated forever as real ones, but never finalized

lots from just 2-4 months before the GreatDebate, looks like a lot kinda floundered in the aftermath

i should go through the mb-users mailinglist too, that also seems to get RFCs/RFVs, even though that process is only described within the context for the StyleCouncil on the wiki.

s/for the/of the/

well, my favorite proposal is the proposal process proposal itself :P

haha

brianfreud/cooperaa: do you want the date or the release title to be highlighted if the release event is in the future?

I'd suggested perhaps that box that normally is peach

idunno, i expand by default so it doesn't matter

saves the release title for other uses, and the event cell doesn't show by default, but the peach one shows either way

(and is otherwise useless space)

the box that is normally peach? which is that?

the one under the editor/time/etc info

the thing off to the lft?

ok

yeah

the empty one

it shows either way, might as well use it for something

so you only want it to operate on the vote page? not on release pages oranything?

I think just the vote page - though if you can get the script to work also on the inline voting, that'd be *excellent* :)

do we really need this?

hmmm

I don't think I do

need what?

need? no

highlighting pre-releases

it's a pretty simple script to do

be nice? yes - if nothing else, a prompt for us to add the annotation and such

I'd rather a way to search for releases added before their date

there something else you want me to be working on? :P

ok...

how about highlight it if the release event is > today and there is no annotation

you can search by release date can't you?

also be helpful for when ppl add release events to existing releases, for future release info...

Jugdish: nop

Jugdish: no you cannot :(

lame

yup

very

see cooperaa and my emails in style :P

erm, then why did this work? http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?q...

and you can use wildcards to get everything in a month: http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?q...

hm

wtf

okay, well a gui would be nice :)

hmmm, didn't realize you could do a date search like that

neither did i

but still be nice when going through new add edits, seems to me a little extra effort is needed when verifying future releases

just could just do a search for all future releases, go through them, "Remove Release" :P

well, I don't know how others do it, but I tend to hit the ones with no note, and ignore the ones with some url for a 2nd pass - if there's time...

but if I saw one flagged red, I'd check it

how can you search for things that have no votes?

manually

I just "no vote" the ones with notes

ah

set all to no vote, find the 60%+ that have no notes, add note, switch to abstain

unfortunately no note != no vote sometimes :/

I do wish, though, that the release event add were separate from the add release edit

why?

I think I'm pretty harsh when it comes to finding any problems in the release itself, but when it comes to the events, I admit I'm not that great at spotting errors.

I could do a verification pass, and happily approve those that are fine (or have been fixed up) - but I hesitate to do so, and just vote yes, when there's events, as I don't know that I've not missed something

i don't know any of this day of the week stuff, and think i should

exactly

just not my strong suit

USA = Tuesday

but will probably notice weird catalog no#s for labels i know.

or even the multi-event adds, be nice if each were its own edit

UK = Monday or Wed

warp: exactly

cooperaa: japan? korea? netherlands?

psh, idunno

throw me a Varese Sarabande or Colloseum release, sure, I can spot wierdness. But "is this the right Sony/BMG/etc?" nope

Wed/Fri?

brianfreud: oh yes... brrr :S

(not Tuesday) hehe

just too many variations in events for any one person to be an expert on them all - but the release itself is easier for anyone to verify without such specific knowledge

hence make the add edit separate from the associated release event edit

did you both respond to my subscription mail improving RFC this morning?

I did

k good, warp?

cooperaa: in a related discussion i already confessed to not using, nor not needing, the subscription mail.

ah okay

cooperaa: i just want the subscription link on the site to work

where's the wiki page with suggestions?

:) alright

Jugdish: did you respond?

on events, also, I see people working on labels checking event edits - but they forget the edits for those labels where the events are contained in add edits. Also a good reason to split the two edits