the original theme from the original film (Dr. No)
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yllona
drsaunde: ah, that's gonna be an ugly one. my suggestion? listen to the originals (if available) and see which moby worked from
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yllona
drsaunde: i'd always thought it was John barry tho
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drsaunde
well...the original first one was Monty Norman
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drsaunde
and he get composer credits...but rumors are that Barry re-worked it
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yllona
but i just saw the original version of "Casino Royale" (with David Niven) -- for the first time as an adult earlier this week
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drsaunde
that one's Burt Bacharach :-)
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yllona
drsaunde: safest bet? monty norman as composer, john barry as arranger
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drsaunde
well..the barry arrangement is not official
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yllona
drsaunde: ? did yoiu check ascap & bmi?
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drsaunde
and I'm going to link the 2...I just haven't decided on cover vs. remix (as there's no lyrics)
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drsaunde
Norman all the way
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BrianFreud
seems more a cover than a remix
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BrianFreud
though moby might also have composed by credit, if he re-worked it
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drsaunde
no..the composer credit on the moby album is solely norman
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BrianFreud
couldn't you do both? cover of and remix of?
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drsaunde
i guess...but that seems like overkill to me
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BrianFreud
it's a cover of the song, performed by moby, but a remix version of the original composition
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drsaunde
my point i guess is....can we still call it a cover if there's no lyrics?
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BrianFreud
I tend think to so... you can cover a tune even if you leave out the libretto
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BrianFreud
or lyrics, in this case
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drsaunde
its not a case of "leaving out" though...both tracks are instrumental
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yllona
drsaunde: i agree "casino royale" is Bacharach all the way. includes the classic "the look of love"
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BrianFreud
you ever see the original TV version of casino royale?
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BrianFreud
can't find my copy of it - there was a hour long tv version before woody allen's version. A whole lot closer to the original book...
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drsaunde
yeah..that's the one we were discussing (sort of) with David Niven and Peter Sellers
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BrianFreud
no, before that
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yllona
drsaunde: at this point in his career moby has a quite adept legal team so the research -- so you can assume that research is complete on moby's end :)
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drsaunde
yeah...like i said...norman is credited in all legal and official channels
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drsaunde
but that first score is so similar to all the barry ones that rumor is that he "fixed" it
drsaunde: then that's what you work from, any other controversy can be noted in annotations
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BrianFreud
I'd agree - let them fight out the controversy, while we just go from the official sources
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drsaunde
yeah..that's not an issue...i'm certain i have the proper original recording...i'm still stuck on the cover vs. remix
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yllona
BrianFreud: "fixing" a score is not unusual. one of the more recent ones i can remember involves wynton marsalis.. i.e. the original score he wrote completely outshined the movie -- so a second, lesser known composer was brought in to "fix"
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BrianFreud
no disagreement
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chillware
any idea on what function i can use in picard to return true/false if the 1st letter of an album title is a number?
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tho i still prefer my G5 for heavy lifting, and reminds ruaok that he'll need a special connector for macbook pro + cinema display
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g'night folks
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nightgroove
nightgroove is now known as catgroove
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catgroove
yarrrrrr
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BrianFreud
welcome back to yesterday catgroove :)
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BrianFreud brings out the catnip :)
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BrianFreud hopes catgroove isn't a Yes fan, as he had to add some Yes bootlegs
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catgroove isn'y a fan of nirvana either
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catgroove
:P
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catgroove just stays away from bootlegs altogether
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catgroove
don't dare add any bootlegs to uriah heep
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catgroove
seriously
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catgroove
or queen, really
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catgroove does ponder what 60's nirvana was like tho.. psychedelic hippie music anyone?
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BrianFreud
I actually bought a few of their albums, just from curiousity... It's VERY trippy
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BrianFreud
but I thought of you as I added the Yes boots, cause I know how much you hate bootlegs :)
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BrianFreud
Uriah Heap, I think you
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BrianFreud
you're safe. Queen... can't promise you :P
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BrianFreud
Never heard of Uriah Heap, actually :P
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srotta
Eh?
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srotta
8)
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BrianFreud
lol, seems like I ought to give this band a try. Any suggestions for a good Uriah Heap album?
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srotta
I've seen them once, I think.
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BrianFreud
never heard of them
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BrianFreud blushes
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srotta
It was sort of fun, to think that those guys were big in 70's, and there they were, in a smallish Finnish festival, on a side stage, and everything showed they were really having fun.
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srotta
Plus, the field in front of the stage was packed with people.
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BrianFreud
see, all those old 70's bands, unless they were as big as Led Zep, I never heard of them
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BrianFreud
they pre-dated me by just a decade
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srotta
And Uriah Heep was/is mainly European (British) phenomenon.
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BrianFreud
Any suggestions for an album to try? Quite honestly, I've never heard of them.
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srotta
I haven't really listened to them that much either, so catgroove would probably be better suited to recommend something.
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BrianFreud
catgroove? :)
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catgroove
as long as you stay away from uriah heep...
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catgroove
lesse.. uriah heep album
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catgroove
wait a sec
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BrianFreud
lol, I'll promise to not add a bootleg for uriah heap without letting you know first, if you can provide an album for me to try first :)
