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      • artagnon
        FauxFaux: You can't use the file rename thing to move it into different directories... or can you?
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      • FauxFaux
        I bet you can.
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      • FauxFaux
        Hell, it even does by default.
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      • artagnon looks hard
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      • Tykling
        yes you can, I use it all the time
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      • FauxFaux
        The default sucks, but we'll ignore that. :)
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      • artagnon
        Okay, I'll give you an example because there seems to be something stupidly wrong with me
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      • FauxFaux
        Go for it.
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      • artagnon
        On the cluster panel, I click on a file that's already tagged: It's Led Zeppelin: Houses of the Holy: D'yer Mak'er
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      • FauxFaux
        Yeeeeeees.
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      • artagnon
        I look at the status bar and see /mnt/ws-music/Led Zeppelin/Led Zeppelin [Box Set] Disc 2/D'yer Mak'er.mp3
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      • artagnon
        it's not in the right album directory
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      • artagnon
        then I go to the file rename options box and enter
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      • artagnon
        %albumartist%/%album%/%title%
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      • FauxFaux
        For which? VA or normal?
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      • artagnon
        what?
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      • FauxFaux
        Waaaaaait, it didn't move the files here, either.
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      • artagnon crashes
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      • artagnon
        see what I mean?
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      • artagnon
        it's the same damn application, the same damn code
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      • FauxFaux
        It did rename them.
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      • artagnon
        that it did
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      • FauxFaux
        TIKKIT
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      • artagnon
        I don't understand the purpose of %albumartist%/%album%/
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      • artagnon
        it might as well have just been %title%
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      • FauxFaux
        Indeed. I /think/ that's a bug. Tykling?
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      • MBChatLogger
        windows == pure evil
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      • artagnon
        FauxFaux: which OS? *nix or windoze?
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      • artagnon
        FauxFaux: Try the "move tagged files to directory". It will literally interpret what you type and not replace placeholders
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      • Tykling
        well
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      • Tykling
        heres the thing
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      • Tykling
        if you want to move the files to a path that is made up of tag information
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      • artagnon
        Tykling: Yes?
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      • Tykling
        say you are tagging the files in your download dir and want to move them to your mp3 dir\artist\album\
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      • Tykling
        and create folders as neccesary
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      • Tykling
        I put ie. c:\mp3 in the "move tagged files to this directory" box, the "root" mp3 directory
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      • Tykling
        and then put the rest in the "file naming format" box, mine says $if2(%albumartist%,%artist%)/$if2(%albumartist%,%artist%) - %album% \($left(%date%,4)\)/$if2(%albumartist%,%artist%) - $num(%tracknumber%,2). %title%
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      • artagnon
        Ooh.. so you have to use both together in order for it to work
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      • artagnon
        Tykling: I'll just try that
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      • Tykling
        which will give me a structure like C:\mp3\Nas\Nas - Stillmatic (2001)\Nas - 03. Got Yourself a Gun.mp3
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      • artagnon jumps with joy
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      • Tykling
        obviously configure to your own liking and remember to set the format for various artists aswell :>
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      • artagnon
        Tykling: Thank you so very much
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      • Tykling
        yeah np, took me a while to figure out as well
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      • artagnon laughs
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      • Tykling
        took me a while to read up what you guys was talking about too ;)
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      • artagnon
        rofl
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      • artagnon
        hmm.. the album art isn't coming up in that box like it used to in the previous version... any ideas about that?
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      • artagnon
        It says "No image available"
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      • Tykling
        get the coverart plugin
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      • Tykling
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      • artagnon
        Tykling: Okay, thanks a bunch again
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      • Tykling
        np
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      • BrianFreud
        Tykling, if you're still around, part of your problem is you have a \ where it ought to be a /
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      • Tykling
        :)
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      • Tykling
        I'm still around but I'm not having any problems
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      • BrianFreud
        ok :)
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      • Tykling
        I just helped out artagnon with his
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      • BrianFreud
        well, the $if2(%albumartist%,%artist%)/$if2(%albumartist%,%artist%) - %album% \($left(%date%,4)\)/$if2(%albumartist%,%artist%) - $num(%tracknumber%,2). %title%
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      • Tykling
        but that formatstring is working as it should be, the \ is for escaping parenthesis and not for directory seperation
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      • BrianFreud
        ah, ok
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      • Tykling
        as per the scripting wiki thing
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      • BrianFreud
        oh, you're using parens in the file name?
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      • BrianFreud
        gotcha
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      • Tykling
        <Tykling> which will give me a structure like C:\mp3\Nas\Nas - Stillmatic (2001)\Nas - 03. Got Yourself a Gun.mp3
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      • BrianFreud
        yhup
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      • BrianFreud
        lol
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      • Tykling
        I like they year in the album names :)
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      • Tykling
        -y
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      • BrianFreud
        you don't wanna see what my naming string looks like :P
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      • Tykling
        would probably spam most of freenode off if you were to paste it
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      • BrianFreud
        I think mine's currently the most obscenely long
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      • BrianFreud
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      • Tykling
        oh my
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      • BrianFreud
        :P
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      • Tykling
        why would you ever need to specify individual artists in the string ? you actually have individual opinions on how the individual artists should be tagged, for each artist ? :)
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      • BrianFreud
        I hate the genre tag - for me, I just want a very simple genre breakdown
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      • Tykling
        I though I was kindof fuzzy about this stuff
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      • BrianFreud
        eventually I'll have that part in tagger script instead, but for the moment, it's pre-pending jazz/ soundtrack/ classical/ etc depending on if artistname in %artist%
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      • Tykling
        ah ok and the first part prepends MissingStatus etc when those are missing
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      • Tykling
        good idea, to get an overview of which albums have incomplete information on mb
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      • BrianFreud
        right
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      • BrianFreud
        basically lets me use my files to fix data, so I can then rerun through picard and get them arranged with the structure I want
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      • Tykling
        clever
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      • hellonwheels
        hellonwheels is now known as HairMetalAddict
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      • FauxFaux
        http://musicbrainz.org/taglookup.html <-- not entering a duration makes that page give the "You don't have permission to access /ws/1/handler.py on this server." error.
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      • FauxFaux
        Who was talking about web2.0 businesses? BrianFreud? ¬_¬ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6707397.stm
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      • BrianFreud
        yes, that was me :)
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      • BrianFreud
        lol, another one bites the dust
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      • artagnon
        how does picard work? After adding music to tags (albums retrieved from the site), are those lists stored on local disk?
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      • FauxFaux
        If you hit save, it'll add them to the files' tags, yes.
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      • artagnon
        FauxFaux: That I understand. I want to know where the lists on the right pane are stored
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      • FauxFaux
        They aren't?
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      • FauxFaux
        *They aren't.
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      • artagnon
        They're generated when feed the music? Why should it go to the right pane? Can't it just sit as clusters?
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      • tru
        no, because right is the tags from musicbrainz.
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      • tru
        left is just the tags it had before.
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      • FauxFaux
        Picard will write a unique identifier (the track id, and the album id, and the artist id etc.) to the tracks, so when you load them the second time they'll go directly to the right pane?
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      • tru
        that too.
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      • artagnon
        tru: Yes I understand that. So it looks at the tags and the database for an EXACT match. If there's one, it goes to the right pane. Otherwise it sits as clusters. Am I right?
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      • FauxFaux
        You'll only ever get an exact match if it's been through Picard, but close enough. ;)
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      • artagnon nods
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      • artagnon
        got it
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      • tru
        artagnon: it doesn't do any automatic discovery, mark the clust and hit the lookup button on the top. if that fails, hit the lookup button lower right and select the record.
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      • artagnon nods
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      • FauxFaux
        If you don't want them on the right, you can move them over to the left.
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      • artagnon nods again
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      • artagnon
        the unmatched files directory is always empty in this version though for some reason
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      • tru
        picard is just strange in the beginning, later it rocks :-)
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      • artagnon
        exactly, I love it
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        catgruff is now known as unhappygroove
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      • unhappygroove
        bastard
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      • BrianFreud
        hi mo :)
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      • unhappygroove
        nei
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      • unhappygroove
        :(
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      • BrianFreud
        dårlig test?
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      • unhappygroove
        brainfrø!
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      • unhappygroove
        hi
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      • unhappygroove
        :(
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      • unhappygroove haner sur på meg :(
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      • BrianFreud
        Somehow, I don't think the translaters are translating that one right
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      • unhappygroove
        that's because I forgot a space
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      • unhappygroove
        hey
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      • unhappygroove
        'haner' is roosters but 'han er' is he is
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      • unhappygroove
        and på meg is indeed 'on me' but in this sentence it's 'at me'
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      • unhappygroove
        he is sur at me