drsaunde likes his new rum from Fiji his friends brought back for him
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Si|enT- is now known as chillware
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chillware
soo.. what filenameing format do you all use in picard?
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BrianFreud
chillware, can you take pm?
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BrianFreud
I can show you the ones I use
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chillware
BrianFreud: pm sent
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BrianFreud
oh, I meant in IRC :)
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BrianFreud
Can you see the msg I just sent? (Some IRC clients don't support PMs)
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BrianFreud
god... SO much freedb crappy add releases added in
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chillware
BrianFreud: i get this error from the server, so i don't think PM's are working for me :s - Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!
2007-05-03 12306, 2007
BrianFreud
chillware: I'm not using MB for classical at the moment, but eventually I'll build it into my filenaming strings. Here's what I'm using currently for everything non-classical: http://dpaste.com/hold/9519/
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chillware
I supose I should register
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BrianFreud
chillware, gotcha - yeah, it takes about 10 seconds to register, then you can take pms :)
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BrianFreud
I put it on the pasteboard instead for ya :)
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chillware
cool, looks good
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chillware
a lot more to it than mine currently..
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BrianFreud
:)
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BrianFreud
I had a lot of old original tagger files, where one release had split into 4 or 5 versions of the same release,
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BrianFreud
hence all the extra [] info I include
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BrianFreud
makes it easy to clean those back up
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chillware
hmm, i like how you've got the date in there too
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BrianFreud
yeah - originally I just used %date%, but it gets messy, cause you have a lot of incomplete dates
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BrianFreud
that string cuts it down to either just [year] or nothing, which is a lot cleaner
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chillware
so i your music folder, you end with just album names, instead of artist - album?
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BrianFreud
well, you get one of three results:
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BrianFreud
if it's a soundtrack, you get this: \Soundtracks\[official] [1951] Alice in Wonderland
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BrianFreud
if it's not, and it has a release date, you get this: \Alice in Chains\[album] [official] [1992] Dirt
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BrianFreud
otherwise you get this: \Alice in Chains\[single] [official] Angry Chair
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BrianFreud
oh, there's a \Music\ behind the 2 later examples
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chillware
ahh, i see now..
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chillware
i like it
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BrianFreud
whenever I add in classicalm
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BrianFreud
it then would go to \Classical\Composer\(then however I decide to do it from here)
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BrianFreud
I just wish MB supported Old Time Radio - for the moment, I use Otter for OTR, and it goes into \OTR\
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chillware
how big is your collection of music?
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BrianFreud
around 1 TB
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BrianFreud
:P
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chillware
nice, im about halfway there :)
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BrianFreud
was larger, but I recently lost a 400 and a 300
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BrianFreud
didn't have backups :(
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chillware
eww, thats what i fear most.. i run a raid 5 now, and building a 2nd machine later this week for an extra backup
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chillware
i have a Thecus N5200B, works very well
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BrianFreud
yeah, I have part of mine on RAID5, but these were new drives, moved off some drives I didn;t trust, trashed the old drives
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BrianFreud
the new 2 drives died within 2 months of purchase :(
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chillware
:(
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BrianFreud
both Seagates
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chillware
what kind of music do you collect?
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chillware
my seagates seem to be working well.. ive converted to them from WD
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chillware
all 7200.10 500gb's
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BrianFreud
hmmm, it's a lot of types - I have a small list at my wiki site - but pretty much anything, except for most country and all gospel
just have to finish the last 200 or so albums not in mb, and ID the random files
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BrianFreud
hmmmm... depends if you count in the 32 kbps OTR
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BrianFreud
without, prob 5 or 6 months
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warp
ofcourse!
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BrianFreud
with, prob 2 years?
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warp
hehe
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warp has 32 days, with about 80gb
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BrianFreud
lol
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BrianFreud
warp, I know this is rhetorical, but why do newbies import so much unfixed crap from freedb with no proof links?
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BrianFreud
lol
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warp
the no proof links is easy, that's just too much work when import/add lots... the edits usually go through anyway.
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warp
i usually don't add proof links until i'm asked to.
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BrianFreud
I know... just having to clean up and ask too often on some of this crap
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warp
s/import/you import/
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BrianFreud
some guy imported 5 albums in English with full caps
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BrianFreud
"guess case didn;'t fix it so I assumed it was ok"
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warp
just vote no.
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warp
get the lazy bastards :)
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BrianFreud
I just slap em with the standard string...
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BrianFreud
"Please provide a link to an online store with this release so we can verify it. Thanks!" with an abstain til they give me something
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BrianFreud
some guy actually gave me piratebay.org as a proof link
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BrianFreud
lol
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warp
why an online store?
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BrianFreud
because when I didn't specify, I was seeing too many torrent trackers
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warp
oh, i would vote NO on the uppercase stuff you mentioned. it's too much work to change later, better to have them try again properly.
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BrianFreud
I fixed 4 of them, then slapped him when he ignored me and kept adding anyhow
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warp
:)
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BrianFreud
prob more patience on my part than it was worth...
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warp nods.
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BrianFreud
but I was tired of the Nirvana edits :P
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BrianFreud has started to notice how many edits slip though with one or two votes... wonders again if the number of voters vs editors needs something to fix the ratio
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BrianFreud
2200 editors, 177 voters...
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warp
yes, the voters vs editors is a problem.
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warp
i enabled inline votes to vote a little bit more on my subscribed artists.
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warp
but in general i don't vote much either.
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BrianFreud
I myself am guilty... I first registerd in 2005. I added a bunch of releases, no attention to styleguides, and had a bunch of votes go against me (evern though some actually, wierdly enough, match with current guidelines).
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BrianFreud
Then I came back in 2006, same thing.
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BrianFreud
This time, I got interested in what was going on behind the tagger, and I started to try to figure things out.
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dwg
hrm
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BrianFreud
Problem is, it's too easy to add a release with no clue of how things work, then everyone else ends up having to clean up the mess, esp when they slip through because < 3 votes.
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BrianFreud
I mean, looking at the open English add releases only, there werr 1650 of them, 100+ expiring tomorrow with 1 or 0 votes on any...
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BrianFreud
and a lot of them look... off.
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warp
they do?
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warp
i would assume most are more or less ok (but incomplete), there's not _that_ much you can fuck up on a normal english tracklisting :)
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BrianFreud
no guess case, all lowercase, freedb imports with no status or script set and no proof, all uppercase imports, stuff using torrent sites as "proof", etc
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dwg
I found when I joined I voted plenty the first few weeks, then stopped entirely because I was too darn sick of these hundreds of vote requests every day
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BrianFreud
The other string I end up using a lot is "Is there a reason we're ignoring the capitalization style guidelines on this release? If not, please remmeber to use guess case."
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BrianFreud
dwg: maybe... I know I've made it to number 1 without trying... but getting frustrated with the amounts of signal to noise...
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warp
BrianFreud: good work! :)
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dwg
a "catch up" feature might be useful
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BrianFreud
hw do you mean?
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dwg
which abstains from all outstanding subscribed votes
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dwg
so you can get back to voting on new edits without having to work through an enormous backlog
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warp
dwg: they'll automatically expire anyway :)
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dwg
warp: eventually
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BrianFreud
not really
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dwg
not quickly enough, to prevent a hugh backlog
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dwg
s/hugh/huge/
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BrianFreud
how many times have you gone to figure out how a release got in in the first place,
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dwg
and by that time more votes will have come in
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BrianFreud
only to find it got in because it had 1 or 0 votes on expire?
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dwg
more clumping of edits would help, but I imagine that's not easy to implement on the db side
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BrianFreud
I just fixed a bunch of VA releases today where someone randomly chose the first "Nirvana" in the list, rather than look to figure which was right
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BrianFreud
so you had 60's compilations with a track attrib'd to a 90's grunge band
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BrianFreud
every one got in with 1 yes vote
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warp
haha, ouch.
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BrianFreud
dwg: I could see that for batch ARs, say "X wrote Y for every Y in this batch"
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dwg
yeah, there are some others
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BrianFreud
but not for adds and such
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dwg
which I've forgotten since I was actively voting
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dwg
basically I did a lot of mb stuff when I first signed up, then have done hardly any since I finished the vacation I was on at the time
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BrianFreud
I just wonder, as much as we all argue over the fine points, and as much as we all concentrate on our own pet projects (jazz, classical, Nirvana, what have you)
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BrianFreud
how much of the rest of the db is slowly turning to muck?
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dwg
I should probably trim my subscribed list way down and actually get back to voting on something at least
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warp
dwg: i recommend enabling inline votes.
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dwg
inline votes?
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BrianFreud
seconded
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warp
dwg: in preferences
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dwg
what does that do?
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BrianFreud
it shows a vote at the top of the screen all the time
