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      • muz
        As in number of staff?

        • 2007-05-30 15015, 2007

      • Shepard
        yes

        • 2007-05-30 15021, 2007

      • muz
        Just over 50, maybe nearing 60 now

        • 2007-05-30 15029, 2007

      • Shepard
        :o

        • 2007-05-30 15035, 2007

      • muz
        Yeah, I know

        • 2007-05-30 15058, 2007

      • muz
        I remember when I started, less than 20 of us and that was only a year ago!

        • 2007-05-30 15012, 2007

      • Shepard
        heh

        • 2007-05-30 15012, 2007

      • Chise|Solid has quit

        • 2007-05-30 15012, 2007

      • srotta
        8)

        • 2007-05-30 15023, 2007

      • Chise|Solid joined the channel

        • 2007-05-30 15046, 2007

      • cooperaa joined the channel

        • 2007-05-30 15019, 2007

      • Shepard
        muz, what do you think of the new nightwish singer?

        • 2007-05-30 15051, 2007

      • muz
        It's okay, not too fussed

        • 2007-05-30 15057, 2007

      • muz
        I outgrew Nightwish a while ago :P

        • 2007-05-30 15057, 2007

      • Shepard
        oha :)

        • 2007-05-30 15044, 2007

      • Kanmu joined the channel

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      • lind has quit

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      • srotta
        Just about anything is better than Tarja.

        • 2007-05-30 15002, 2007

      • srotta
        8)

        • 2007-05-30 15038, 2007

      • muz
        Comparing her to Tarja will get you nowhere :P

        • 2007-05-30 15050, 2007

      • muz
        Both sound nice to me, and that's as far as I can go when it comes to caring

        • 2007-05-30 15016, 2007

      • juhae
        There's one positive thing worth mentioning in Tarja: for some reason I completely fail to understand, she moved into my former hometown with her husband

        • 2007-05-30 15029, 2007

      • juhae
        (which happens to be an industrial backwater full of idiots)

        • 2007-05-30 15006, 2007

      • srotta
        Hehe

        • 2007-05-30 15008, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        Jugdish: Are you sure? They're working alright for me and for BrianFreud. :-S

        • 2007-05-30 15039, 2007

      • Jugdish
        yeah

        • 2007-05-30 15041, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        !whois Jugdish

        • 2007-05-30 15042, 2007

      • YAUB
        Aankhen``: I don't know Jugdish in #musicbrainz. Jugdish's current language is en. Jugdish is a member of 2 groups: public, www

        • 2007-05-30 15058, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        Jugdish: Give it another try?

        • 2007-05-30 15000, 2007

      • Jugdish
        i'm using mirc...i double-click YAUB to open a PM window, and type !upc2asin 1234567890 and get no response

        • 2007-05-30 15002, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        Everything looks alright.

        • 2007-05-30 15009, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        Try !whoami in PM.

        • 2007-05-30 15020, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        Or even just whoami. You don't need the trigger if you're in PM.

        • 2007-05-30 15026, 2007

      • Jugdish
        nothing :(

        • 2007-05-30 15032, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        Hmm, weird.

        • 2007-05-30 15033, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        !quit

        • 2007-05-30 15034, 2007

      • YAUB has quit

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      • YAUB joined the channel

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      • Aankhen``
        Jugdish: What about now?

        • 2007-05-30 15028, 2007

      • Jugdish
        still nothing :/ i wonder if the problem is on my end?

        • 2007-05-30 15035, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        Mmm.

        • 2007-05-30 15038, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        I'm seeing the privmsgs.

        • 2007-05-30 15044, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        I'll have to investigate further.

        • 2007-05-30 15047, 2007

      • Jugdish
        ok

        • 2007-05-30 15045, 2007

      • Yllona has quit

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      • inhouseuk_ joined the channel

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      • inhouseuk has quit

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      • inhouseuk_
        inhouseuk_ is now known as inhouseuk

        • 2007-05-30 15005, 2007

      • cooperaa
        Jugdish: not receiving PMs?

        • 2007-05-30 15012, 2007

      • cooperaa
        I had to do something with nickserv

        • 2007-05-30 15023, 2007

      • Jugdish
        i'm registered with nickserv

        • 2007-05-30 15028, 2007

      • cooperaa
        nickserv /?

        • 2007-05-30 15033, 2007

      • cooperaa
        Aankhen``: are you reg'd?

        • 2007-05-30 15033, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        Oh yeah.

        • 2007-05-30 15036, 2007

      • cooperaa
        oh

        • 2007-05-30 15036, 2007

      • Jugdish
        i can receive PMs, it's just YAUB is ignoring me :P

        • 2007-05-30 15036, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        It's not a registered nick.

        • 2007-05-30 15039, 2007

      • cooperaa
        ok then I don't know :)

        • 2007-05-30 15045, 2007

      • cooperaa
        oh

        • 2007-05-30 15052, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        So if you've got that mode set on you, which stops you from receiving messages from unregistered nicks...

        • 2007-05-30 15057, 2007

      • cooperaa
        well there is a nickserv filter that you can toggle to allow unreg'd nicks to pm you

        • 2007-05-30 15006, 2007

      • cooperaa
        exactly

        • 2007-05-30 15008, 2007

      • Jugdish
        which mode is that?

        • 2007-05-30 15013, 2007

      • cooperaa
        unfiltered

        • 2007-05-30 15018, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        send /msg nickserv set unfiltered on

        • 2007-05-30 15021, 2007

      • cooperaa
        unfiltered on/off

        • 2007-05-30 15027, 2007

      • Jugdish
        i'm currently +ei

        • 2007-05-30 15031, 2007

      • Jugdish
        not sure if that's relevant

        • 2007-05-30 15008, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        good thoughts on the list, both of you

        • 2007-05-30 15015, 2007

      • Aankhen``
        +e means registered, I think.

        • 2007-05-30 15039, 2007

      • cooperaa
        thoughts? http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6962171

        • 2007-05-30 15043, 2007

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      • Aankhen``
        Actually, I don't know.

        • 2007-05-30 15038, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        cooperaa: Is that a generic date cover, or the cover for that actual release?

        • 2007-05-30 15015, 2007

      • cooperaa
        it is fan-created art for that bootleg

        • 2007-05-30 15020, 2007

      • Jugdish
        that kinda looks like a the back rather than the front

        • 2007-05-30 15029, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        looks like a front to me...

        • 2007-05-30 15038, 2007

      • cooperaa
        Jugdish: the back is proof

        • 2007-05-30 15040, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        cooperaa: circulating boot (not a pressed one)?

        • 2007-05-30 15041, 2007

      • cooperaa
        the url goes to front

        • 2007-05-30 15048, 2007

      • Jugdish
        oohhh

        • 2007-05-30 15052, 2007

      • Jugdish
        <-- slow

        • 2007-05-30 15053, 2007

      • cooperaa
        yep, not pressed

        • 2007-05-30 15059, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        then yeah, I'd say it's good

        • 2007-05-30 15056, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        see Jugdish? He's going further than I did for boot covers :) Nice to see another coverart pioneer cooperaa, lol

        • 2007-05-30 15006, 2007

      • Jugdish
        heh

        • 2007-05-30 15009, 2007

      • cooperaa
        :) love me some coverart

        • 2007-05-30 15012, 2007

      • cooperaa
        but

        • 2007-05-30 15015, 2007

      • cooperaa
        I don't know if I'll do much

        • 2007-05-30 15029, 2007

      • cooperaa
        because... I've already arted my entire library

        • 2007-05-30 15039, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        My only concern here cooperaa

        • 2007-05-30 15048, 2007

      • cooperaa
        and I don't know if it's worth it to trudge through waybackmachine to re-find them just for MB

        • 2007-05-30 15003, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        At least with the pressed boots, I could use the excuse that I was just showing the cover to a release, irregardless of status

        • 2007-05-30 15022, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        But this goes a step further, pointing to fan created art for a unpressed release....

        • 2007-05-30 15036, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        does that cross the legality line?

        • 2007-05-30 15049, 2007

      • cooperaa
        which are available freely (if you go to metcoverart.com)

        • 2007-05-30 15003, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        lol, I know - same exists for Nirvana

        • 2007-05-30 15004, 2007

      • cooperaa
        I would prefer to be able to direct link to that domain

        • 2007-05-30 15005, 2007

      • cooperaa
        with their permission

        • 2007-05-30 15012, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        I'm just wondering if we have to worry about that

        • 2007-05-30 15020, 2007

      • cooperaa
        did you read the wiki?

        • 2007-05-30 15029, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        lol, I helped write it :P

        • 2007-05-30 15037, 2007

      • cooperaa
        the waybackmachine part?

        • 2007-05-30 15039, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        yes

        • 2007-05-30 15043, 2007

      • cooperaa
        k

        • 2007-05-30 15000, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        the intent from ruoak, I believe, was the liners for pressed boots

        • 2007-05-30 15014, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        just not sure if circulating w/fan art would be protected as well

        • 2007-05-30 15029, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        not from legalities with the art designer, but with the band

        • 2007-05-30 15049, 2007

      • cooperaa
        they haven't shut down metcoverart.com yet

        • 2007-05-30 15007, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        ok

        • 2007-05-30 15021, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        lol... as we tread the grey line :P

        • 2007-05-30 15026, 2007

      • cooperaa
        heh

        • 2007-05-30 15042, 2007

      • cooperaa
        do we have a template asking for permission yet?

        • 2007-05-30 15046, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        no

        • 2007-05-30 15050, 2007

      • cooperaa
        argh

        • 2007-05-30 15056, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        I gave it the yes - I just worry it provides ammo for the anti-wayback people on MB

        • 2007-05-30 15007, 2007

      • cooperaa
        oh it definitely would

        • 2007-05-30 15015, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        the distinction between the two types of boots tends to get lost in their eyes

        • 2007-05-30 15046, 2007

      • cooperaa
        k well I think I'm going to post on the forum at MCA

        • 2007-05-30 15010, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        for permission from the artists, at least, you mean?

        • 2007-05-30 15025, 2007

      • cooperaa
        from the site

        • 2007-05-30 15027, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        ok

        • 2007-05-30 15039, 2007

      • cooperaa
        because I'm pretty sure the fan-artists give up their rights to the site

        • 2007-05-30 15042, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        you may want to cancel this one for the moment then, so they don't come looking and see it already being used

        • 2007-05-30 15023, 2007

      • cooperaa
        ya... I think I will

        • 2007-05-30 15028, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        if you get permission, it'd prob be good - one page I want to eventually set up

        • 2007-05-30 15034, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        a subpage for coverart,

        • 2007-05-30 15038, 2007

      • cooperaa
        I'd rather go the openly permissible way :)

        • 2007-05-30 15044, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        for labels / sites that have given permission

        • 2007-05-30 15050, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        like the Sub Pop note I left in the comments

        • 2007-05-30 15014, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        yeah - if it's Kiss the Stone, that's one thing... But when it's fan art, that's the other side of the line, I think

        • 2007-05-30 15043, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        KTS = big pressed bootleg company

        • 2007-05-30 15050, 2007

      • Aankhen`` is totally fan art.

        • 2007-05-30 15047, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        Can I get an opinion? Helping a newbie... What title would you give this 10 cd set? http://www.membran.net/img/222914_front.jpg

        • 2007-05-30 15016, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        Billie Holiday (Disc 1)?

        • 2007-05-30 15031, 2007

      • muz
        Billie Holiday (disc 1: Summertime)

        • 2007-05-30 15037, 2007

      • muz
        etc would be what I would do

        • 2007-05-30 15057, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        doesn't look like the discs are actually subtitled

        • 2007-05-30 15004, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        looks like those are just big name songs in the set

        • 2007-05-30 15012, 2007

      • muz
        Those aren't the namesof the discs?

        • 2007-05-30 15013, 2007

      • muz
        Ahh

        • 2007-05-30 15033, 2007

      • muz
        Personally, I'd go with Billie Holiday (disc 1) then, I could be proved otherwise though

        • 2007-05-30 15040, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        yeah, I think that's best

        • 2007-05-30 15048, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        damn these cheapie sets... lol

        • 2007-05-30 15052, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        ugly listings :P

        • 2007-05-30 15040, 2007

      • Kanmu has left the channel

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      • cooperaa
        quick: example of CBBaby and Archive art-ed releases :)

        • 2007-05-30 15032, 2007

      • cooperaa
        LOL

        • 2007-05-30 15014, 2007

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      • emilime
        where can I read about how to tag genres?