there are a lot of other facets of Amsterdam, than just smoking weed!
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drsaunde
i know.....was just pondering
2007-05-05 12530, 2007
drsaunde
:-)
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warp
ah, yeah
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demonhunter joined the channel
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mudcrow has quit
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drsaunde is an admitted pothead
2007-05-05 12516, 2007
warp , despite living in the netherlands, is not.
2007-05-05 12503, 2007
ruaok
I remember reading that the netherlands has some of the lowest use of pot anywhere in the world.
2007-05-05 12522, 2007
ruaok
I think it not being "illegal" takes out some of the draw.
2007-05-05 12548, 2007
auv has left the channel
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drsaunde
you can also enjoy beer while strolling the streets...i wish i could do that here
2007-05-05 12511, 2007
ruaok
sounds like you live in the US....
2007-05-05 12517, 2007
drsaunde
no...canada
2007-05-05 12529, 2007
ZhayTee
I want to move to Holland. It seems like a very relaxed place.
2007-05-05 12534, 2007
drsaunde
we can't even buy booze in the corner store
2007-05-05 12540, 2007
ZhayTee
(I live in the USA, which is rather in turmoil right now.)
2007-05-05 12540, 2007
ruaok
my US friends are always amazed when they see people on the streets and subways drinking.
2007-05-05 12557, 2007
ruaok
ZhayTee: that's a mild way of putting it.
2007-05-05 12513, 2007
ZhayTee
ruaok: I'm trying to be unoffensive, I suppose. ;)
2007-05-05 12519, 2007
ruaok
:-)
2007-05-05 12532, 2007
ruaok
where in the US ZhayTee ?
2007-05-05 12534, 2007
ruaok
Cali here.
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ZhayTee
East coast at the moment.
2007-05-05 12548, 2007
ZhayTee
MA
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warp
drsaunde: hm, not everywhere.
2007-05-05 12519, 2007
drsaunde
:-(...still...more places than here
2007-05-05 12547, 2007
warp
drsaunde: there are _some_ laws or whatnot against drinking on the streets, probably stuff city councils or something come up with for specific parts of a city.
2007-05-05 12500, 2007
warp
still, i don't drink either, so i'm not really up to speed on any of it :)
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Synchro has quit
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aCiD2
Damn ruaok, we really need XML POST xD
2007-05-05 12546, 2007
warp
finally!
2007-05-05 12553, 2007
aCiD2 is working on a neat tool using Omni Graffle to create relationships
2007-05-05 12551, 2007
warp
took me an hour to go through my subscribed artists after subscribing to nirvana.
2007-05-05 12551, 2007
warp
anyway, sleep, and then i can get back to coding tomorrow!
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Knio1 has quit
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aCiD2
:)
2007-05-05 12501, 2007
aCiD2
cya warp!
2007-05-05 12509, 2007
ruaok
natta warp!
2007-05-05 12521, 2007
ruaok
aCiD2: I agree with ya.
2007-05-05 12537, 2007
ruaok
its really time to write the editor rating system.
2007-05-05 12545, 2007
aCiD2
Ah yes ruaok
2007-05-05 12550, 2007
aCiD2
That's what I was meant to email you about :)
2007-05-05 12558, 2007
aCiD2
Wanted to know how I could help/what's been done so far, etc
2007-05-05 12513, 2007
ruaok
with editor rating or the XML POST stuff?
2007-05-05 12520, 2007
ruaok
noting on editor rating.
2007-05-05 12534, 2007
warp
editor rating system?
2007-05-05 12536, 2007
ruaok
XML POST support we have for submitting TRMs.
2007-05-05 12545, 2007
aCiD2
ruaok, no, editor rating
2007-05-05 12553, 2007
aCiD2
XML POST for the web service, I meant
2007-05-05 12542, 2007
ruaok
warp: editor rating is a system where an editor gets a different rating based on their edit history.
2007-05-05 12549, 2007
ruaok
kinda like what ebay does.
2007-05-05 12502, 2007
ruaok
three gold stars means you're a good editor.
2007-05-05 12506, 2007
ruaok
that type of stuff.
2007-05-05 12516, 2007
ruaok
once we have that we can hang all sort of things from it.
2007-05-05 12549, 2007
ruaok
"better" editors would have more rights.
2007-05-05 12505, 2007
ruaok
rather than just autoeditors or not.
2007-05-05 12525, 2007
ruaok
aCiD2: for the XML post stuff, its not really bad at all.
2007-05-05 12510, 2007
ruaok
You need to add a handler in cgi-bin/MusicBrainz/Server/Handlers/WS/1 that gets the login info (see puid submission for an example) and then calls the right perl modules functions.
2007-05-05 12543, 2007
warp
ruaok: yeah, just read up on it.
2007-05-05 12558, 2007
warp
ruaok: in general, i'm not in favour of such a system... but haven't thought about it a great deal.
2007-05-05 12505, 2007
ruaok
so, to submit a vote for instance, you just get the edito id, the vote and make sure the editor is logged in. then enter the vote by calling the perl module.
2007-05-05 12542, 2007
ruaok
well, next time you're in the shower and want to think about it... :-)
2007-05-05 12559, 2007
ruaok
I'd like to give good editors less work. And bad editors more.
2007-05-05 12504, 2007
warp
yes
2007-05-05 12516, 2007
ruaok
The problem is to define good and bad.
2007-05-05 12518, 2007
warp
i guess my main objection to that is that it can become a sort of status
2007-05-05 12521, 2007
aCiD2
ruaok, Yea, but I thought you didn't want that, cause it would open up to spam?
2007-05-05 12549, 2007
ruaok
well, I was illustating an exampl.
2007-05-05 12551, 2007
ruaok
e
2007-05-05 12519, 2007
ruaok
the new web service is cake to extend
2007-05-05 12530, 2007
warp
currently, autoeditors aren't very obviously autoeditors.
2007-05-05 12541, 2007
ruaok
yep.
2007-05-05 12553, 2007
ruaok
I'd like to give them an icon, or a different color user name.
2007-05-05 12502, 2007
ruaok
I'd also like to credit those who have donated.
2007-05-05 12556, 2007
ruaok
we need a kick ass icon designer to create some very simple icons that can convey this type of info without getting in the way.
2007-05-05 12555, 2007
ruaok
the problem is that its all a bit of a pain to work on at first, since there is a bit of work that needs to be done.
2007-05-05 12507, 2007
ruaok
but once an infrastructure is in place, a lot can be done quickly.
2007-05-05 12531, 2007
ruaok ponders installing picardqt on his mac
2007-05-05 12545, 2007
ruaok
the world yearns for a picardqt dmg
2007-05-05 12554, 2007
warp
ruaok: donated yes.
2007-05-05 12500, 2007
warp
ruaok: autoeditors no.
2007-05-05 12514, 2007
ruaok
interesting. please elaborate?
2007-05-05 12525, 2007
ruaok
(on the latter point)
2007-05-05 12508, 2007
warp
ruaok: installing picardqt isn't too much trouble btw, and a .dmg should be possible without too much work (luks and i did a little py2app or whatever experiment months ago).
2007-05-05 12526, 2007
ruaok
good. :)
2007-05-05 12536, 2007
warp
hm, it feels similar to wearing ops (@) on irc.
2007-05-05 12537, 2007
ruaok
the install itself does look daunting though.
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drsaunde has quit
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aCiD2
ruaok, it's not so bad
2007-05-05 12517, 2007
warp
as soon as it's obvious some other user has a higher status than 'normal' users, the normal users will want to gain status just for the status itself.
2007-05-05 12533, 2007
aCiD2
warp, And why's that a bad thing?
2007-05-05 12543, 2007
aCiD2
It means users have to push to be number one, which is an incentive
2007-05-05 12503, 2007
ruaok
aCiD2: but people are going to "game" that system too.
2007-05-05 12522, 2007
ruaok
but, do or don't our top 25 lists don't already do that?
2007-05-05 12523, 2007
warp
no, more users doing stuff to not to make MB better, but to make themselves reach a higher status within MB.
2007-05-05 12540, 2007
aCiD2
Hmmm
2007-05-05 12547, 2007
ruaok
warp: I generally disagree with that being a concern.
2007-05-05 12551, 2007
warp
those are fleeting lists, if you stop editting, you immediatly drop off them.
2007-05-05 12505, 2007
ruaok
people don't want to have status in MB because it makes them cool.
2007-05-05 12528, 2007
aCiD2
I'm not sure about that - I'm proud that I'm in the top 25
2007-05-05 12528, 2007
ruaok
if people go against the flow (rig the system) they get shouted at by all the people who want to do good.
2007-05-05 12536, 2007
ruaok
they get discouraged and go elsewhere.
2007-05-05 12541, 2007
aCiD2
It's an encouragment for me to keep going
2007-05-05 12543, 2007
warp
ruaok: not currently, no. just be aware that if you have a system with several statuses,.. making it too obvious those statuses exist WILL make ppl yearn for a higher one.
2007-05-05 12555, 2007
ruaok
aCiD2: not sure? do you think it does or not?
2007-05-05 12509, 2007
ruaok
warp: agreed.
2007-05-05 12521, 2007
ruaok
but as long as most people have good intentions, we're set.
2007-05-05 12531, 2007
ruaok
if most people have bad intentions, eek!
2007-05-05 12536, 2007
aCiD2
For me personally (ie, someone with only a small mb contribution) I feel proud to be in the top 25, and it makes me feel more useful, and made me go back and edit my past data so that it was better data
2007-05-05 12539, 2007
aCiD2
if that makes sense?
2007-05-05 12545, 2007
warp
ruaok: yes, i agree it's not likely to be a problem at all with MB.
2007-05-05 12502, 2007
aCiD2
Status highly depends on the type of person..
2007-05-05 12509, 2007
ruaok
then I think we should give it a shot.
2007-05-05 12517, 2007
ruaok
if it turns sour, we turn it off.
2007-05-05 12522, 2007
aCiD2
I think we should def give it a shot :)
2007-05-05 12523, 2007
warp
ruaok: hihi, ok :)
2007-05-05 12532, 2007
ruaok
does anyone know the most recent picardqt install instructions?
