20:45 PM
aCiD2
1 on each side
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20:46 PM
aCiD2
A relationship is only between 2 items, why would you select 4 things?
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20:46 PM
BrianFreud
wait, so you're only allowing a single item in the tree to be selected at one time?
2007-05-09 12957, 2007
20:46 PM
aCiD2
No - but only one type of item
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20:47 PM
BrianFreud
I was trying to get away from 1:1 relationships, allow 1:many, many:1, and many:many, hence "batch"
2007-05-09 12902, 2007
20:47 PM
aCiD2
Ie, only multiple tracks
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20:47 PM
aCiD2
But I see what you mean now...
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20:47 PM
BrianFreud
so the type combo controls what you can select on the tree, rather than the other way around?
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20:47 PM
aCiD2
It's technically possible to relate 5 tracks and 2 releases to 1 artist..
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20:47 PM
BrianFreud
right
2007-05-09 12923, 2007
20:48 PM
BrianFreud
but rather than try to handle all three at once, I was thinking to load all three groups, then only try to handle 2 at a time
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20:48 PM
BrianFreud
and limit those 2 to a single direction, so either Artist->tracks, or track->artists
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20:51 PM
BrianFreud
that's why I'd thought to split them out to the 5 different AR views. Throw an arrow on the AR page to indicate the direction of the ARs, and it seemed a simple interface t understand
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20:58 PM
aCiD2
Gah
2007-05-09 12933, 2007
20:58 PM
aCiD2 wishes IE would just disappear
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20:59 PM
BrianFreud
lol, it giving you issues with the redesign?
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20:59 PM
aCiD2
Javascript is flickering
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20:59 PM
aCiD2
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20:59 PM
aCiD2
Drop downs at the top :(
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21:00 PM
BrianFreud
No flicker here, in FF or IE6. I do see some other oddness in IE6 though
2007-05-09 12930, 2007
21:01 PM
BrianFreud
the right column is only half as wide (so you get a big white empty column), and the "Development Server" patch in the upper right is just whitespace
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21:01 PM
aCiD2
No flicker for you in IE6?
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21:01 PM
BrianFreud
no
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21:01 PM
aCiD2
Odd, which version? I'm on 6 too, and I get flicker :S
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21:01 PM
aCiD2
And yea, I know the rest looks pretty shite :P
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21:03 PM
BrianFreud
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21:04 PM
BrianFreud
flipping between the page in FF and IE6. No flicker in either, menus acting identically in both
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21:04 PM
aCiD2
Ah well, that's good!
2007-05-09 12949, 2007
21:04 PM
aCiD2
Lol at 4 running out of disk space icons :P
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21:04 PM
aCiD2
5, infact
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21:05 PM
BrianFreud
lol
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21:05 PM
BrianFreud
yup
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21:05 PM
aCiD2
What's your MSN btw? Might as well add you :)
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21:05 PM
BrianFreud
I ignore them... all the reg patches that supposedly kill off the annoying "low space ballons" never seem to work for me
2007-05-09 12945, 2007
21:05 PM
aCiD2
LOL at NewzXXX at the top xD
2007-05-09 12904, 2007
21:06 PM
BrianFreud
lol, I'm a mod over there, so every so often I need to go fix something on the xxx site
2007-05-09 12912, 2007
21:06 PM
aCiD2
:)
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21:06 PM
BrianFreud
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21:06 PM
BrianFreud
junk spam address :P
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21:06 PM
aCiD2
hehe
2007-05-09 12952, 2007
21:07 PM
BrianFreud
installing Opera- curious if it's still massively screwing up css :P
2007-05-09 12933, 2007
21:08 PM
aCiD2
I should do that, good point
2007-05-09 12953, 2007
21:08 PM
BrianFreud
hmmm. the page actually looks more like FF than IE6 now, in Opera, except you get wierdness in the menu
2007-05-09 12957, 2007
21:08 PM
aCiD2
Opera always seems to take over my setup though - can never get it to go back to Firefox properly :P
2007-05-09 12912, 2007
21:09 PM
aCiD2
I think I know where Opera's weird less lies
2007-05-09 12917, 2007
21:09 PM
aCiD2 downloads
2007-05-09 12923, 2007
21:09 PM
BrianFreud
the menu works on hoverover, but there's a meaningless horizonal scrollbar right across the menu labels
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21:10 PM
aCiD2
Eep
2007-05-09 12945, 2007
21:10 PM
aCiD2 strokes chin on this one
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21:12 PM
aCiD2
Wtf
2007-05-09 12915, 2007
21:12 PM
aCiD2
I reordered the CSS, now it's ok
2007-05-09 12926, 2007
21:12 PM
aCiD2
Ack, the scrollbar appears when you hover
2007-05-09 12958, 2007
21:12 PM
BrianFreud
is Opera perhaps "swelling" the menu option on hoverover, causing the scrollbar?
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21:13 PM
aCiD2
Pretty much
2007-05-09 12948, 2007
21:14 PM
BrianFreud
hmmm - maybe if you added something to decrease the width of the dev server block on menu hoverover?
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21:15 PM
aCiD2
Dev server block?
2007-05-09 12919, 2007
21:15 PM
BrianFreud
the top left part that IE isn't showing
2007-05-09 12930, 2007
21:15 PM
aCiD2
Top right*
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21:15 PM
BrianFreud
*doh*
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21:15 PM
aCiD2
I'll explore that problem later, this Opera one is more important
2007-05-09 12919, 2007
21:16 PM
BrianFreud
no, I meant, for opera, on menu hoverover, decrease the width of that part of the top a little, so opera doesn't think it needs a scrollbar?
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21:16 PM
aCiD2
That's not what's having the scroll bar applied
2007-05-09 12901, 2007
21:17 PM
aCiD2
The scroll bar is just for that orange bar
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21:17 PM
BrianFreud
wierd
2007-05-09 12940, 2007
21:17 PM
BrianFreud
can't wait to hear what unique wierdnesses safari has with the site :P
2007-05-09 12949, 2007
21:17 PM
aCiD2
Safari is fine
2007-05-09 12953, 2007
21:17 PM
aCiD2
Remember I dev on a mac ;)
2007-05-09 12929, 2007
21:18 PM
yllona
i just added a few ARs in safari too. woked fine
2007-05-09 12933, 2007
21:18 PM
BrianFreud forces the world to switch from opera and IE to FF
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21:18 PM
yllona
*worked fine
2007-05-09 12901, 2007
21:19 PM
yllona
FF sux ass on OS X, tho it's slowly improving
2007-05-09 12923, 2007
21:19 PM
yllona
most FF designs work well in camno, so no matter
2007-05-09 12956, 2007
21:19 PM
yllona
*camino
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21:20 PM
BrianFreud
camino?
2007-05-09 12917, 2007
21:20 PM
aCiD2
Browser for OS X
2007-05-09 12923, 2007
21:20 PM
aCiD2
Uses Gecko as the rendering engine
2007-05-09 12929, 2007
21:20 PM
BrianFreud
ah
2007-05-09 12935, 2007
21:20 PM
ruaok swears by camino
2007-05-09 12951, 2007
21:20 PM
yllona
camino is a lighweight gecko browser for OS X, really clean implementation
2007-05-09 12952, 2007
21:20 PM
aCiD2
It's nice :)
2007-05-09 12912, 2007
21:21 PM
ruaok
I can't wait. My new Mac Pro with 5GB RAM shows up tomorrow.
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21:21 PM
ruaok salivates
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21:21 PM
yllona
very nice.. tho safari has better accessibility features (for those who need them)
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21:21 PM
Freso
It's also outdated compared to Firefox...
2007-05-09 12951, 2007
21:21 PM
yllona
5GB is that one of the newest ones?
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21:21 PM
ruaok
yeah, and you don't get decent plugins either.
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21:22 PM
BrianFreud
5GB of ram... that thing will SCREAM :)
2007-05-09 12916, 2007
21:22 PM
ruaok
well, I am getting a 1GB one, but my 4GB RAM expansion pack is arriving the same day.
2007-05-09 12930, 2007
21:22 PM
ruaok
I want to get into more serious photo editing.
2007-05-09 12933, 2007
21:22 PM
yllona
Freso: FF plug-ins wreak havok on the native accessibility stuff on the mac
2007-05-09 12934, 2007
21:22 PM
ruaok
and ram is key for that.
2007-05-09 12939, 2007
21:22 PM
aCiD2
I swear I should have learnt to be a thief, instead of a coder >.<
2007-05-09 12908, 2007
21:23 PM
ruaok
aCiD2: its about the same. in the end you spend lots of time in a 3x3 ft space. :)
2007-05-09 12916, 2007
21:23 PM
Freso
yllona: I was thinking more inline on engine, tabbing features, and certain other features.
2007-05-09 12917, 2007
21:23 PM
ruaok
cubicle or cell. your call.
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21:23 PM
aCiD2
haha
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21:23 PM
Freso
*in line of
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21:23 PM
yllona
ruaok: you can use the expansion packs? i have a 2GB macbook pro...
2007-05-09 12944, 2007
21:23 PM
aCiD2 is on a 512mb MacBook (1.82ghz) or a 512mb 2.2ghz athlon xp+ :(
2007-05-09 12947, 2007
21:23 PM
ruaok
expansion pack == 4 1GB DIMMS with heatsinks
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21:23 PM
yllona
Freso: yeah, most of that stuff is really poorly written from an accessibility standpont
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21:24 PM
yllona
*standpoint, sorry
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21:24 PM
ruaok
aCiD2: what kind of ram does you athlon take?
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21:24 PM
Freso
yllona: Firefox or Camino (or both)?
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21:24 PM
aCiD2
hmmm, let me check
2007-05-09 12918, 2007
21:24 PM
ruaok has DDR-400 laying around.
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21:24 PM
yllona
Freso: FF especially. camino is much better behaved
2007-05-09 12952, 2007
21:24 PM
Freso
I gave Camino a shot, but it simply lacked too much in the ways of tabbing compared to FF2.
2007-05-09 12902, 2007
21:25 PM
ruaok
Freso: agreed.
2007-05-09 12913, 2007
21:25 PM
ruaok
I found a page that outlines how to get FF to stop sucking so much ram.
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21:25 PM
Freso
Ooh.
2007-05-09 12922, 2007
21:25 PM
ruaok
I'm seriously thinking of giving that a shot.
2007-05-09 12922, 2007
21:25 PM
Freso
Where?
2007-05-09 12930, 2007
21:25 PM
yllona
ruaok: i've seen those pages too, have you tested?
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21:25 PM
ruaok
lemme dig it up.
2007-05-09 12940, 2007
21:25 PM
ruaok
no, but they make total sense to me.
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21:26 PM
aCiD2
Supports 2 DIMM DDR 400 ( Max. 2GB )
2007-05-09 12915, 2007
21:26 PM
aCiD2
So I guess I do support DDR400
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21:26 PM
aCiD2
God knows what I have in there atm
2007-05-09 12940, 2007
21:26 PM
ruaok
let me know if you want 1 or 2 DDR-400 sticks.
2007-05-09 12952, 2007
21:26 PM
ruaok
I'll mail them to you if you promise to mail chocolate back
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21:26 PM
aCiD2
How much mem are they?
2007-05-09 12901, 2007
21:27 PM
ruaok
512
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21:27 PM
yllona
ruaok: is this an apple certified upgrade: 4 1GB DIMMS with heatsinks
2007-05-09 12904, 2007
21:27 PM
aCiD2
Both?
2007-05-09 12923, 2007
21:27 PM
ruaok
its ram from ramjet, who specialize in making ram for macs.
2007-05-09 12933, 2007
21:27 PM
yllona
ruaok: thanks!
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21:27 PM
ruaok
they are said to even be pairable with apple shipped ram.
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21:28 PM
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21:28 PM
aCiD2
ruaok: If they are both 512mb - I'll take em :) Pm your paypal addy and I'll cover shipping + any other costs
2007-05-09 12935, 2007
21:28 PM
ruaok
naw, send chocolate. :)
2007-05-09 12944, 2007
21:28 PM
aCiD2
Shipping + chocolate?
2007-05-09 12948, 2007
21:28 PM
aCiD2 can't accept free things :P
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21:28 PM
ruaok
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21:28 PM
ruaok
you're hacking on MB.
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21:29 PM
ruaok
I would not give them to you otherwise.
2007-05-09 12914, 2007
21:29 PM
ruaok
thus they are not free. :)
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21:29 PM
aCiD2
hehe
2007-05-09 12926, 2007
21:29 PM
aCiD2
Fine, chocolate and a recurring MB donation :P
2007-05-09 12930, 2007
21:29 PM
ruaok
mail me your snail mail addy.
2007-05-09 12934, 2007
21:29 PM
ruaok
ok!
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21:29 PM
aCiD2
Sure thingo
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21:29 PM
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21:30 PM
yllona
aCiD2: check with your employe, MB is a fully legal non-profit (in the US). you can donate your time, your employer may also make a matching grant, and ram for chocolate should be okay
2007-05-09 12925, 2007
21:30 PM
aCiD2
Employee? I'm 17 :P
2007-05-09 12934, 2007
21:30 PM
ruaok
ok, here is the fiixing FF link:
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21:30 PM
ruaok
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21:30 PM
yllona
aCiD2: oops, check with your parents/guardian & school
